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OK DW, you're closer to the truth than ever, replace just one word -
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Honestly, I have nothing morally against prostitution. I personally think sex workers deserve more rights and legal protections.Just stop it.
But coercing others into it crosses past "morally grey" in my book (and in the eyes of the law, even where prostitution is legal).
- Jan 6, 2021
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Sir, don't bring the Holy Divine Quinn into this.
She only offers the girls a way to earn money.
Takes care of them.
- May 17, 2020
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the boss? who would be the boss? Quinn and Lily in this operation are clearly partners.
the only fact is that without Lily, Quinn would never have sold to the pink rose girls, who then buy from Quinn only because Vinnie was giving them ridiculous prices
so it's not Vinnie's fault that he does it, it's not Lily's fault that she creates the conditions for it to happen, but it's Quinn's fault that she had to predict what Vinnie was going to do, now that's solid reasoning with no weak points
Don't worry, I'm done. Just wanted to say my two cents on the topic.
Carry on. I'll stop interfering with such as devout follower spreading the Word.
- Nov 10, 2020
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No it is Vinny fault because he did it but it is also Quinn fault as well because of her bad leadership leading to it happing. Quinn may not be the big boss but she does run the drugs and primping at BR so she is a boss just as Vinny is a boss for his side of the streetthe boss? who would be the boss? Quinn and Lily in this operation are clearly partners.
the only fact is that without Lily, Quinn would never have sold to the pink rose girls, who then buy from Quinn only because Vinnie was giving them ridiculous prices
so it's not Vinnie's fault that he does it, it's not Lily's fault that she creates the conditions for it to happen, but it's Quinn's fault that she had to predict what Vinnie was going to do, now that's solid reasoning with no weak points
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Next blame Adam Smith for writing The invisible hand. Quinn just offered same quality stuff for a cheaper price, and she being a smart girl took it. It's Riona's fault for being a penniless drug addict who has to be side kick of Quinn to sustain her addiction. Drug dealing comes with risk.the boss? who would be the boss? Quinn and Lily in this operation are clearly partners.
the only fact is that without Lily, Quinn would never have sold to the pink rose girls, who then buy from Quinn only because Vinnie was giving them ridiculous prices
so it's not Vinnie's fault that he does it, it's not Lily's fault that she creates the conditions for it to happen, but it's Quinn's fault that she had to predict what Vinnie was going to do, now that's solid reasoning with no weak points
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Bad leadership?
What kind of leadership can we talk about when Quinn has only Rio among her henchmen.
Rio Carl !
- May 17, 2020
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but what does bad leadership have to do with kidnapping? how would it be a consequence of Quinn's leadership?
she is a drug dealer, Vinnie is a drug dealer, and at a lesser level so is Riona, Tommy, and so on. drug dealers do drug dealer things.
or do we say it is the fault of Vinnie's bad ladership that he should have foreseen the consequences of stealing the takings from Quinn? Or for demanding prices that are too high?
- Nov 10, 2020
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It very easy to understand, Quinn should had known Vinny wouldn't take it kindly for her moving in on his turf by selling to PR.
Quinn should had been warning the girls to kept an eye out
- Jan 13, 2018
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I hear you, but just because Quinn helped setup the situation to piss Vinnie off, he still made the final call. There are a lot of things and people who may have contributed to it, but at the end of the day, Vinnie made the final decision and he didn't have to.
- Jan 13, 2018
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RIo being kidnapped is Vinnie's fault. No one elses.
- Sep 26, 2023
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Nah, Lily and her friends stopped buying from Vinnie then lied to him. That's Lily's fault
- Jan 13, 2018
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She may have contributed to pissing off Vinnie, but at the end of the day, the decision to kidnap Rio was all his. No one forced him to do so. Did Quinn piss him off? Probably. Did Lily add to the situation? Maybe. But Vinnie made the decision all by himself.
Do you blame the abuse victim for getting hit by her husband just because she may or may not have pissed him off? No. The husband made the call the hit her all on his own. No one else to blame. Same with Vinnie.
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Riona being kidnapped is on Quinn. It is heavily hinted that she and Vinny used to be a thing, and if anyone knows him, its Quinn. She knew her ex boyfriend is a dangerous individual, and she still stole his customers. If there is one thing dope boys hate is their opposition taking their customers and money.
She did break a deal they put together. And her best friend getting kidnapped is consequences of her (stupid, very stupid) actions
She did break a deal they put together. And her best friend getting kidnapped is consequences of her (stupid, very stupid) actions
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Nope. Rio getting kidnapped is on Vinnie. He made the decision. No one forced him to do it.
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I guess you are simp, I am not trying to start waifu wars since I have more important things to do.
First of all - Quinn knew what kind of guy Vinny is. Crazy, daring and dangerous. This guy pulled out a gun on a teenager for no reason AT ALL. That shows us we are dealing with a man who doesn't care much. That is a very dangerous combination.
Knowing all this, Quinn still choose to fuck him over. She knew what she was getting into. When you know you are dealing with a crazy person you cut contact and avoid that person. Even his best friend(Nick) doesn't talk to him much.
And yet she stole his customers, why ? Because she is greedy, very greedy. And that's why her best friend got kidnapped by crazy unhinged guy.
- Jan 13, 2018
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Hey... thanks for the name calling. I will add that to the list of colorful metaphors used to describe me. SIMP is a new one.
So sure... others may have contributed to Vinnie getting angry and feeling like he needed to act, but he still, at the end of the day, made the decision to kidnap Rio. No one else. It's like someone who commits a mass murder/shooting. Do we blame anyone other than the shooter? No. No one forced them to do what they did, just like no one forced Vinnie to kidnap Rio. 100% on Vinnie.
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The customers came to her. Why ? Because Vinnie overcharged his prices. Quinn wasn't even aware he was selling to them. Lily just made a deal behind Vinnie's back. Vinnie came back because Lily and the girls lied to him with a bullshit excuse. Lily is also aware that Vinnie was a dangerous guy but didn't really care. She just wanted cheaper prices. But I guess that's also Quinn's fault if Vinnie screwed his customers over and forced them to seek for someone else.
Vinnie own greed started everything and Lily's shenanigans bring him back.
If there are two rival gangs with established and agreed territories, the leader of Gang A decides to start encroaching on Gang B territory while withholding info from the rest of their gang, and Gang B retaliates by kidnapping one of the members of Gang A, neither gang leader has clean hands. Sure, the one ordering/doing the kidnapping is probably the dirtiest, but it seems silly to me to try to claim the leader of Gang A is totally without blame for creating the circumstances where Gang B felt the need to retaliate in the first place.