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Trem never tried to go with her, he accompanied her to her departure. That's not the same thing. The point is Tremolo regrets not trying to STOP her from going.

I think you skipped several parts of which you should play again.
I don't have a perfect memory, but I'm pretty sure he wanted to go with her (Perhaps he didn't say it) I will have to check the whole Maya/Josy/Tremolo conversation in episode 9 to be sure
 

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I may be a Quinn and Sage fan, but I don't have a problem with Zoey. She is a young woman, not even finished with school, who lost one of the three most important people in her life and chased a dream. Sure she was selfish when she left, but she was a greiving 18 year old kid. She failed, realized her mistake and what she had left then returned home in hopes up picking up the peices.
As someone who has experienced loss, followed a dream, lived in 5 states and 4 countries in the process, I can relate to the desire to return to what was once comfortable when I was young. Other than the returning ex cliche being a thing, I think her character is fairly well written.
Well written? I don't doubt about that, but the whole concept of "I realize I'm in love with my ex and I will return to his life to bring him back" it's not my style

I have also experienced loss (during a very dark time for me) and I didn't run away, it brought closer to the rest of my love ones

BTW Sorry for your loss, seriously
 

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I don't have a perfect memory, but I'm pretty sure he wanted to go with her (Perhaps he didn't say it) I will have to check the whole Maya/Josy/Tremolo conversation in episode 9 to be sure
Yes he wanted to go with her, but he wanted to wait after college. Which was her plan all along as well, but when her grand mother died, it changed her plans for leaving sooner. And Trem never argued anything more than just say "It's best I don't, because college", and didn't bother to convince her to wait.

And also replay the convo in the cafeteria with Bella when he has lunch with her.
 

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I'm looking for some save closer to the conversations, but I believe you... Even with that change, I can't understand Zoey in the game context but also, there are players attracted to her history/personality... My respects

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I'm looking for some save closer to the conversations, but I believe you... Even with that change, I can't understand Zoey in the game context but also, there are players attracted to her history/personality... My respects

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Well to be fair, DPC could have written Zoey with a more believable narrative, than her going surfing. I don't dislike the idea of the Zoey character as a narrative, but c'mon DPC surfing for christ's sake? That's practically the equivalent to having a 6 yr old child say he wants to be a firefighter and letting him go throw water balloons at the first fire he comes across. Just like surfing, it's such a juvenile concept. *facepalm* Should have sent her on an "walkabout" in the outbacks of Australia, that would have at least been somewhat believable. And have made some sense to back it up. But it is what it is, and we're stuck with it. hehe

I suppose that's the truest form of fiction, of which no one can really argue. lol
 

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Yes he wanted to go with her, but he wanted to wait after college. Which was her plan all along as well, but when her grand mother died, it changed her plans for leaving sooner. And Trem never argued anything more than just say "It's best I don't, because college", and didn't bother to convince her to wait.

And also replay the convo in the cafeteria with Bella when he has lunch with her.
Checked both and you are 100% right... English is not my first language and I didn't understand the whole chat with Bella (But Tremolo made the right decision, staying to finish high school and ask to wait until then)
 
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Well to be fair, DPC could have written Zoey with a more believable narrative, than her going surfing. I don't dislike the idea of the Zoey character as a narrative, but c'mon DPC surfing for christ's sake? That's practically the equivalent to having a 6 yr old child say he wants to be a firefighter and letting him go throw water balloons at the first fire he comes across. Just like surfing, it's such a juvenile concept. *facepalm* Should have sent her on an "walkabout" in the outbacks of Australia, that would have at least been somewhat believable. And have made some sense to back it up. But it is what it is, and we're stuck with it. hehe

I suppose that's the truest form of fiction, of which no one can really argue. lol
We need to make some "what if" histories, It can be funny and interesting a BADIK multiverse (it was an idea I was going to propose in the future)

For example, What if Tremolo is raised by his rich maternal grandparents?
 

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Hi can I ask if anyone would please be so kind and share the latest special render with Lily, Thank you in adwence.
 

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Bella is trying, yes, but she has to realize his partner is 19 years old guy without any experience in romantic relationships (he wasn't even official with Zoey) and the relationship started being 100% psychical... Or you try to change with an man around her age (a real good man) or she needs to understand she has to be patient and understanding with Tremolo (as I said before, the yoga class en episode 10 was apocalyptic)

About Jill, you are right but wrong. I think the social awkwardness was there the whole time, but it is more obvious when she started to do things out of her zone of comfort (DPC doesn't help, that's for sure)

Josy... well, at the start, I thought as you, but after Tremolo broke with them en episode 9 (and her reaction in episode 10) and she talked with him in episode 9 and 10 (just being friends path) I realize she is in love with Tremolo, it's just she was insecure and afraid of being left alone (as her mother and partially her father did) so she took the easy way with Maya... I would love to DPC can show a free Josy (without the Maya drama) so we can see the real her

Maya can be a interesting choice in the future if all the mess around her disappears (or at least her tuition problem)... Until then, she is just the third wheel in a sexy but confusing throuple (slutty fairy threesome rules)

Sage... well, I think we need to create a poll about who will be the first girl she invites :love::love:
- It's not for nothing that Bella's route is called a bumpy road, even the achievement on Steam DPC named that for completing her route in Season 2. Their relationship is complicated and has many problems: she is his teacher and the mental age difference. But I wouldn't dig that deep, again this is a "college guy's wet dreams" porn game.

- What surprised me about Jill in Season 2 is that she lost her self-confidence (Season 1 Jill could make decisions, like disperse the bullies, call a teachers council because of bullying, using her status connections with the teachers), but here she doesn't see at all that Tybalt's blackmail is a far-fetched piece of crap, then she needs to be saved from Tybalt and begs Bella for help (save the princess from the tower moment). It's like DPC downgraded the character and all for the sake of the moment where she showed her balls at the end of Ep. 8. And we saw a different Jill - how beautifully she turned Rusty down when he hit on her! She has it from the start and making her so socially awkward is a gap in the writing from DPC for me, he had to shove in this plot line with "blackmailing Tybalt" and pretend that we are dealing with a serious antagonist, although it is clear: The king is naked.
An ordinary Jill would have handled this easily.

- I'll describe Josy and Maya together. Josy is really insecure and simping MC, also doesn't know what she wants. On their route, Josy feels normal when she's happy with MC and Maya and that's really ok if we can make Throuple work. For a player who only plays J/M, it's harder to notice the problems with Josy: she literally stalks Tremolo and vents on him at every opportunity that she has feelings for him. And about the breakup with them at the end of Ep.9, for me, Maya's reaction is much healthier, showing a stronger personality, which I didn't expect from Maya. Plus, Maya is an introvert. She's in pain too, she loves Tremolo, she just doesn't show it so agressive-open style. Plus. she's so hardened by family hell, a tyrant father and a disabled mother that a breakup with a guy is a trifle compared to what she sees every day for years.
But Maya is not a third wheel, she's the main character in Throuple. This is her family history, this is her student loan problem. I understand that people are tired of loan story, but it is what it is. Josy is the trigger that causes this problem to exist, Josy herself doesn't have a story arc like the other LIs and that's a problem. DPC needs to write something for Josy ASAP to make her interesting. Yes, she's a normal girl next door who has a crush on MC...that's all. There are plenty of those in real life and I'd like to see a character arc.

Bonus track: Zoey
I have tried to give a chance to Zoey (she is Tremolo's first love), but I can't bear with her... Firstly, wasting the WHOLE interlude in her didn't help, but it wasn't the worst. Because her grandmother dies, she decided to leave everyone and everything to become a surfer, and even when Tremolo tried to go with her she rejected him, breaking him until Josy. Then, when the money started to run out and she miserably failed as a surfer, she decided to return after having a "There's no place like home" moment, thinking Tremolo was going to be waiting for her... And after chapter 10, she finally realized she felt something for him... When Tremolo is surrounded by more interesting and attractive girls and he finally has forgotten her in a romantically way (or at least he said so several times in chapter 9).
I'll start by saying that Interlude has problems with its narrative structure. DPC should have spent more time showing MC and Zoey past together than her life with California junkies, in order to appeal more to the player's empathy.

Next, they are both young and inexperienced in relationships. MC is secretly in love with her, for Zoey he is a friend+. She didn't leave him and everyone else. She followed her dream, deciding to try, it was her life and she had no incentive to stay with MC, not understanding her feelings and not knowing what he really feels. In addition, she offered him to go with her, which destroys the argument "She dumped our guy" that I often see on the subreddit. In San Diego, she realized what she lost and realized that surfing was just a childhood dream - the emotional growing up of the character.
Running out of money is secondary, she could still find another job, save money by finding cheaper place to live, but the Interlude gives us signs that Zoey decided to return home (to Tremolo) because she realized how much she cares about him. Who is to blame for this situation? I will say both, they were immature and both made mistakes. And both changed while they were not seeing each other. Zoey has grown up, and MC - well, it depends on the player.
Oh yeah:
> Move to California
> You're running out of money
Realism 10/10 :KEK:
 

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We need to make some "what if" histories, It can be funny and interesting a BADIK multiverse (it was an idea I was going to propose in the future)

For example, What if Tremolo is raised by his rich maternal grandparents?
He'd probably be like Tyballs, but with a big cock.
 

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Well Geralt From Rivia you just performed your wwe finisher bro.

I agree completely about Maya and its something people don't understand. I have even seen people say she doesn't love MC just because she doesn't cry.
She cries in Gender Studies when MC is avoiding the girls :unsure: That's before the throuple is even formed.

Maya bashing in general is often misguided, or outright hateful at times.
 
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