The Krogan Dude

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I have never written anything negative about Dr. Pinkcake on F95, Patreon or Discord. I have never even criticized the fact that it takes a year for new episodes to be released. I just said that the Josy/Maya route was good, so he blocked me. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
You don't need to say anything négative. Just a small hint that you used a mod or that you know a certain pirate site is enough :HideThePain: I saw a pledge banned because he mentioned a fanart artist.
 

iamcomming

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if i were to guess, my bet is that, if at the end of s4 he decides to do a huge final episode, and a small epilogue later, my guess would be that final episode would be the first in the avn world to surpass the 10000 render mark, if not 15000.
that sounds like a very long dev time:(
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When you said J/M path was amazing, you hinted the rest of the games wasn't amazing, it deserved a big punishment, DPC showed mercy only blocking you on Discord, his first idea was to force you to gouge your eyes, and I fully agree, yo can't say that.

If you liked M/J path, you must say "DPC is my idol and he deserves to win the Nobel prize and the Oscar award in every single category every year because all his characters and plots are the best of the best, specially M/J path, which made DPC be worthy of be crowned as the World Emperor"

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World Emperor? nah... that still a ban. you should say the God-King-Emperor of knowed and unknowed universe
How can that be? I have lived in a place where forced prostitution is not something that you hear on your couch halfway across the world, I have seen first hand how fucked that shit is, so anyone like Quinn who takes advantage of dreams of people is sub-human to me and the world would be better without them, and it pisses me of you can't fuck her over "yet".
p.s. I just started playing it so you guys probably have a better view of that "Things" character, but I can't imagine what character traits can excuse such horrible stuff
who is forced?
 

iamcomming

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Well, another weekend, another "What if" question:

What would happen if at the start of the game Bella is only 20 years old AND James doesn't exist?
maybe i would like her:sneaky:
And here i thought i missed somthing, after reading your posts it just makes me absolutely fucking livid that there's no way to fuck her over! Why!?
she has plot armor. but be patient, i think the rust will start eating her armor in ep11 or in ep12.
 

MilesEdgeworth

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Plot armor :WaitWhat: She gets beat up, robbed, intimidated and she has constantly been under pressure for two seasons. Maya is the one with plot armor. The MC is her personal white knight no matter what and everyone feel obligated to help her with her tuition bullshit.
At the current moment, Maya's the only main love interest with any current real problems. Hardly plot armor
 
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Macky009

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James doesn't exist in this What if (read it twice) :ROFLMAO:

We know the Bella in the game was in a sorority (OMG) and she was more like a party girl, so I think she will join the HOTs. Being a year older than Sage, she could be the vicepresident (She is very smart, organized and helpful) instead of Quinn

Being in the same year as Jill, they knew each other, but being one so shy and another a HOTs, it's not impossible they are just friends, no BFF

Bella would have two options to know Tremolo: via HOTs and via Jill so a Bella path will be very different (the romantic triangle Jill/Bella/Tremolo will also start sooner)

In this "What if" the crossroad is Bella being a HOT or being a normal student, two very different options
Just woke up, to answer your question I read your question. I just did not remove James to the equation to put more drama in my story. I also choose that Bella is not a part of the hots so that she and jill can be the best of friends for a better love triangle that is running to my mind

Going back to sleep brother
 

DannyLucifer

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Plot armor :WaitWhat: She gets beat up, robbed, intimidated and she has constantly been under pressure for two seasons. Maya is the one with plot armor. The MC is her personal white knight no matter what and everyone feel obligated to help her with her tuition bullshit.
Thats too light of consequence that she faces compared to the horrible shit she does. Physical wounds heal, psychological wounds last a lifetime.
 

Gunizz

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Reading the discussion about development time got me curious.

Has anybody worked with RenPy before? How is it to work with? Are there better/worse engines for a VN?
How advanced of a programmer do you need to be able to do a game like this?

What is the main reason for the 10+ months to develop a new episode? Writing? Programming? Rendering?

Not here to criticise anyone, just want to learn and get a better understanding of things. :)
I often look at the source code of VNs and I change it in some occasions. It's quite basic compared to things we do for web development, for example. DPC code is more complex than usual in the part of all the mini-games, he had to invent them. The standard part concerning the plot is really basic, there is nothing fancy there. Even the sex scenes are really plain in the code, not much variety there. Coding those is quite fast.
The variables that he uses are not that intricate and there aren't so many, they are manageable, I've seen more complicated VNs on that aspect. But BaD is still among the VNs with a more complex plot. Most VNs are more linear.
His planning has saved him from going nuts with creating too many crossings. That's clever.

But you have to consider that with the extras like minigames he did create the code from zero, he had to test everything and that part of code is not simple. The most time I suppose is spent posing static images and animations. Rendering animations also takes a lot of time, but it does not block him because he has many PCs. Animations delayed the release last time because he did everything else and he had to wait two weeks for the queue to complete.

The plot is all planned since the start (he wrote that) but when developing an episode he usually changes something and create new scenarios. That's normal. So you have to consider the time to project and write all this new ideas.

I don't know much about other rendering engines, but coding Python for Renpy can be easy for the standard stuff, while it can become more complex if you want to do make. BaD is probably the most complex VN with all its extra features. Renpy is not that flexible and it's limited. Unity and especially Unreal are complex and you can make "real" games with them.
 

MiltonPowers

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How can that be? I have lived in a place where forced prostitution is not something that you hear on your couch halfway across the world, I have seen first hand how fucked that shit is, so anyone like Quinn who takes advantage of dreams of people is sub-human to me and the world would be better without them, and it pisses me of you can't fuck her over "yet".
p.s. I just started playing it so you guys probably have a better view of that "Things" character, but I can't imagine what character traits can excuse such horrible stuff
I don't like Quinn very much (my least liked character except for the obvious Madame, Ida & Feminazis), but she hasn't forced anyone into prostitution. She tries to pick the right people and offers it to them.

Mona (who I love btw) is the main one we see resist (after she already agreed) and Quinn doesn't force her to fuck anyone, she tries to scare the shit out of her and blackmail her to keep her mouth shut (which yes, is despicable, but understandable considering the consequences).
 

Elduriel

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I don't like Quinn very much (my least liked character except for the obvious Madame, Ida & Feminazis), but she hasn't forced anyone into prostitution. She tries to pick the right people and offers it to them.

Mona (who I love btw) is the main one we see resist (after she already agreed) and Quinn doesn't force her to fuck anyone, she tries to scare the shit out of her and blackmail her to keep her mouth shut (which yes, is despicable, but understandable considering the consequences).
she still pretty much runs a prostitution and drug ring, I really don't have any sympathy for her. Nor am I too much interested in any of the girls that are part of it. Not gonna fan over a girl that is lovey-dovey or whatever at one moment and then sucking dicks at the gloryhole the next.
 
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