Geralt From Rivia

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Boring is boring, and fun is fun. You'd never mixed up one with another, no matter the point of view.
We're not in a math class. There are no absolutes here. What might be boring to one person in a game might be fun for another.

This argument do prove the importance of good scenario even in just a porn game. But it doesn't prove that all sex scenes should be boring if the scenario was in focus as hell. But i agree that most part of porn games (read - almost all of them) do not have not even an acceptable scenario. Their characters are busty, with boobs twice bigger than heads, but flat as a dot in a matter of personalities, they always horny or become wet for no reason at all, can't resist even a look of a random cock, and if a player made a "quest" to bring them a pen - they can do nothing, except the reward with bj, anal hardcore sex right away, including her entire family and a dog... without any back thoughts to get this fucker merry her and give her a half of his house by soon divorce court. So when players finaly find a game with more or less reasonable characters' behavior - it become a bright little spot on a dark abyss background of unreasonable fucking in helltonn of so called porn games, where the scenario is awful, unbalanced, unrealistic, primitive or absent at all.
But - i say again - it doesn't mean that making a good scenario gives any rights to deliver only boring, from all points of view, default sex scenes. There should be both: and good scenario, and a lot of hot non default sex scenes. Period.
And that's why we're here. This game is so popular because of the detailed characters that are alive, not just pixels to jerk off to. The story, characters and emotions have created 15k pages of discussions here, and led the creator to success. Of course, this was based on the success of Acting Lessons, which gave it its initial fame, being a masterpiece.
Good sex is important for many people here, as for me it become secondary.

I didn't mean i want exactly these fetishes. It was just random things which comes 1st on my mind. They are not fav, but i wouldn't mind if they would exist and be happening with Bella 1st of all. What i really demand is - ANY NON DEFAULT BORING SEX ADVENTURES WITH BELLA, i don't care about other random bitches with their flat personality and poor roles and so-so models. I don't ask much - just perverted stuff with Bella, and anyone may fap on that precious "focusing on scenario" even if it would exclude just any sex scenes with all other characters, if they believe that boring or absent sex is the price for importance of scenario thing.
No idea how kinky you want it. Bella's scenes are less vanilla than 3/5 MGs. There won't be any extreme stuff in BaDIK, the game is aimed at a wide audience.


That would have sense, IF i was telling to replace all vanilla boring sex scenes with all kinky and perverted stuff. But i didn't. So it doesn't make sense. All i said - is TO ADD such content, but as decent porn games do - make it avoidable, like an alt paths: like a player can do very dirty things with Bella, but he may not do it, by choosing another dialog options, if a player is pure militant purists (which of course are retarded), then - as an alt route - he may bring her flowers, sing serenades, and don't ever fuck her before wedding day, maybe even after wedding day too, to let her get pregnant by innocent way of saint fucking with a holy spirit or something, whatever they want. But making all players to have only militant purists dialog options and events - it is a racism against all the fetish world. Gods of hardcore porn must not allow that to happen on Earth!
No one is forcing anyone to be a purist. There are different girls with different preferences in the game. 4 completely different in spirit routes of the main LIs + a bunch of third-party girls to choose from. You can want such content, your right. I want a scene with Elena, Zoey asap. I'm not demand. But you say it as if you demand it, accusing the developer of racism. This somehow reminds me of game journalists and crazy people from Reddit who demand DEI in games, otherwise - "racism". No, the developer is not obliged to follow the demands of the audience, the developer follows his vision.

Ofc am right. That's just a common sense what is right.
But you made 4 mistakes in writing word the "all" so it seems like you mistakenly wrote "some" scenes are boring.

Vanilla sex is boring, no matter if it have a speed of a light or if it stunned as a stone.
Of course, buddy, you have the right to believe it.

The problematic engine doesn't forced the dev to pick it up, so if a dev choosen a problematic engine - it's not the fault of engine, the guilty is on the one who was choosing it. I call it - the Logic. If it's new to you, you can ask me, i will tech how it works. World becomes much simpler with using it.
Most AVNs are made in DAZ 3D. Despite the difficulties with animation, this engine is popular for its ease of learning and a huge library of ready-made assets in the store. Your statement here is incorrect. But of course, if you are comfortable blaming others for not liking the game... your right to do this:rolleyes:

I see it as a blank page. Because there is no Bella in there. I got so many fantasies about her slow, smooth, lewd and deep corruption adventures, that i'd get old till that speed of development will make 1% of my fantasies about her just starting to happen... But i bet he will not even start, seems like the main problem is not the engine, popularity, scenario focus or a crows of armed purists on the market which are demanding by the fright of deat to develop only boring sex scenes, like you offered it to understand. There are a problem with the dev's imagination, i just feel like what we see in the game for all these years - it's his limits, that's all he can do. He maybe so dig in for scenario importance that he forgot what da hell true hot sex scenes means. That's my guess, according to what i saw. I didn't see anything else to make a base for any other guesses.
Yep, terrible person. Doesn't allow your fantasies to fully unfold, and not with the right character. Horrible.

That's the words of bungler. A true artist would never say that. When an artist have a vision, a mission, a passion and a talent - then he may involve and touch the souls even of crowds and nations hearts, not even far away in distance, but in time as well, even if they all never had it in mind by their primitive demands. But if a poor beggar, tricky milker, talentless fake dev just want to make a spare coin, then for sure one will gladly become a harlot to serve and please the tasteless crowd.
You heard, guys, we're all a tasteless crowd here. :ROFLMAO:
And when the developer's vision does not match yours, he becomes a talentless, pathetic milker who tries to make a pathetic coin.

First, i wasn't talking here before today, just because am pretty sure it's a deadborn game, just hopeless to see anything hot in it in few centuries of updates ahead. As i mentioned before - my only hope just fo MODDERs, if someone will be doing a mod, that may be fun and exciting. No hopes about original, it's just dead. By updates speed, by poor conent, by boring events flow, by lack of options, by hell linear scenario in majority cases, by, by, by... i can make a list till tommorow, by what else.
But.
It's a free place of talking, and since i don't do anything against the rules and don't have any aims to insult anyone in person - i can criticize whatever i want. Tbh i got a good reason. I want to wish this game to become better, in a way i see it better. Some may agree, some may not, but nobody can't shut me up and redirect to move one, just because he have the other opinion. Because if that would be working for all - we would all keep silence around the entire forum.
Great vibe, buddy. But I'm afraid you can't do anything better to change it here on a pirate forum. I suggest you sign up for his Patreon for the minimum ($1) and get access to the DPC Discord where you can change things for the better by posting your great ideas on how to make the game better. DrPink Cake is a generous person who listens to the audience and he will welcome advice. It's just that no one has offered it to him before, 100% info. This is something you can do. DPC takes criticism easily and will never ban you for it.
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Oliver Wendell Homely

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It's not a matter of only 3 weeks if you consider that rendering the animations takes double the time. Then, there also also the minigames that took him a lot of time, at least detracting it from other aspects more strictly related to the plot (extra scenes, more cured static renderings and so on).


I think some aspects of your complaints are understandable, but your general judgment is not very fair, it seems very forced to me. Yes, it is true that DPC does not have that great imagination or ability in the sex scenes that he has in the comical aspects or plots (always in relation to the world of AVN obviously), but in any case the sex scenes are average, they are not among the best but they are not worse than what is normally seen around.
I obviously can't speak for DPC's imagination in terms of sexual fantasies and scenarios, but I would suspect that he is not including some of the kinkier tags in Being a DIK because it is a (relatively) mainstream game--by design, I believe. If he started including incest or even more controversial tags, he risks being de-platformed by Patreon or even worse, potentially. If he were an obscure developer struggling to make some money, it might be a whole different game, but at this point his adding really questionable shit would likely only take the game from "Watch My Girlfriend Watch Me Play Being a DIK" videos on YouTube to simply I-hope-no-one-ever-catches-me-playing-Being-a-DIK thoughts by its players.
 
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ZenoMod

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there is only one scenario for which DPC could accelerate with BADIK: DPC has another story in mind that it wants to tell and for which it is motivated to close BADIK and move on to the new one.

it's not a far-fetched scenario: for me DPC is quite fed up with BADIK, and if he already had a real INSPIRATION for the next work it would hardly hurt him financially, he would start with a very strong hype
But in that case I'm fearing a rushed ending that doesn't properly close the many open narrative threads.

For how we know his personality, in case he felt the urge to close BaD, he would rather cut the plot writing time rather than switch back to 30fps and give up the cut scenes. That would be like him admitting: "My dear fanboys, the weepers I banned were right on a second thought: that was indeed a bunch of useless stuff". :HideThePain: His ego would not allow him :HideThePain:
 

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I don't get it, is this lesbian shit going to continue until the end of the game, lol? Can't they be skipped or should they just ruin everything? What's the problem with this fucking Maya? Why do she and her stupid girlfriend keep trying to get into the main character's head?
I loved lesbians like this,
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This argument do prove the importance of good scenario even in just a porn game. But it doesn't prove that all sex scenes should be boring if the scenario was in focus as hell. But i agree that most part of porn games (read - almost all of them) do not have not even an acceptable scenario. Their characters are busty, with boobs twice bigger than heads, but flat as a dot in a matter of personalities, they always horny or become wet for no reason at all, can't resist even a look of a random cock, and if a player made a "quest" to bring them a pen - they can do nothing, except the reward with bj, anal hardcore sex right away, including her entire family and a dog... without any back thoughts to get this fucker merry her and give her a half of his house by soon divorce court. So when players finaly find a game with more or less reasonable characters' behavior - it become a bright little spot on a dark abyss background of unreasonable fucking in helltonn of so called porn games, where the scenario is awful, unbalanced, unrealistic, primitive or absent at all.
But - i say again - it doesn't mean that making a good scenario gives any rights to deliver only boring, from all points of view, default sex scenes. There should be both: and good scenario, and a lot of hot non default sex scenes. Period.

I didn't mean i want exactly these fetishes. It was just random things which comes 1st on my mind. They are not fav, but i wouldn't mind if they would exist and be happening with Bella 1st of all. What i really demand is - ANY NON DEFAULT BORING SEX ADVENTURES WITH BELLA, i don't care about other random bitches with their flat personality and poor roles and so-so models. I don't ask much - just perverted stuff with Bella, and anyone may fap on that precious "focusing on scenario" even if it would exclude just any sex scenes with all other characters, if they believe that boring or absent sex is the price for importance of scenario thing.

That would have sense, IF i was telling to replace all vanilla boring sex scenes with all kinky and perverted stuff. But i didn't. So it doesn't make sense. All i said - is TO ADD such content, but as decent porn games do - make it avoidable, like an alt paths: like a player can do very dirty things with Bella, but he may not do it, by choosing another dialog options, if a player is pure militant purists (which of course are retarded), then - as an alt route - he may bring her flowers, sing serenades, and don't ever fuck her before wedding day, maybe even after wedding day too, to let her get pregnant by innocent way of saint fucking with a holy spirit or something, whatever they want. But making all players to have only militant purists dialog options and events - it is a racism against all the fetish world. Gods of hardcore porn must not allow that to happen on Earth!

Ofc am right. That's just a common sense what is right.
But you made 4 mistakes in writing word the "all" so it seems like you mistakenly wrote "some" scenes are boring.

Vanilla sex is boring, no matter if it have a speed of a light or if it stunned as a stone.

The problematic engine doesn't forced the dev to pick it up, so if a dev choosen a problematic engine - it's not the fault of engine, the guilty is on the one who was choosing it. I call it - the Logic. If it's new to you, you can ask me, i will tech how it works. World becomes much simpler with using it.

I see it as a blank page. Because there is no Bella in there. I got so many fantasies about her slow, smooth, lewd and deep corruption adventures, that i'd get old till that speed of development will make 1% of my fantasies about her just starting to happen... But i bet he will not even start, seems like the main problem is not the engine, popularity, scenario focus or a crows of armed purists on the market which are demanding by the fright of deat to develop only boring sex scenes, like you offered it to understand. There are a problem with the dev's imagination, i just feel like what we see in the game for all these years - it's his limits, that's all he can do. He maybe so dig in for scenario importance that he forgot what da hell true hot sex scenes means. That's my guess, according to what i saw. I didn't see anything else to make a base for any other guesses.

That's the words of bungler. A true artist would never say that. When an artist have a vision, a mission, a passion and a talent - then he may involve and touch the souls even of crowds and nations hearts, not even far away in distance, but in time as well, even if they all never had it in mind by their primitive demands. But if a poor beggar, tricky milker, talentless fake dev just want to make a spare coin, then for sure one will gladly become a harlot to serve and please the tasteless crowd.

First, i wasn't talking here before today, just because am pretty sure it's a deadborn game, just hopeless to see anything hot in it in few centuries of updates ahead. As i mentioned before - my only hope just fo MODDERs, if someone will be doing a mod, that may be fun and exciting. No hopes about original, it's just dead. By updates speed, by poor conent, by boring events flow, by lack of options, by hell linear scenario in majority cases, by, by, by... i can make a list till tommorow, by what else.
But.
It's a free place of talking, and since i don't do anything against the rules and don't have any aims to insult anyone in person - i can criticize whatever i want. Tbh i got a good reason. I want to wish this game to become better, in a way i see it better. Some may agree, some may not, but nobody can't shut me up and redirect to move one, just because he have the other opinion. Because if that would be working for all - we would all keep silence around the entire forum.

I did not addressed my conserns to you personally. I was saying it in public to find those who do agree with me. Those who don't - may hit me with words of hate as they like. I am not going to argue or persuade anyone wrong in my right point of view. They can stay wrong as long as they want, idc.

Ok. I do imagine that. I just like see a game of F1 racing, where ALL race tracks for ALL cars on ALL levels of difficulty are - a straight line. And they say, that's all because the developer do care about the colors of cars, just look at those colors of cars, if you have that colors of cars that means you can only drive straight line and don't have an option of turns...
What an example indeed.
Well, DPC has the same problem of most AVN authors: he is a male. We usually suck at depicting eroticism (exceptions exists, of course). That's why the best AVNs, in my opinion, are the ones that have a female hand that writes the sex parts.

But the sex scenes in BaD could be improved with little effort. For example, I don't get why we have so many stupid and difficult minigames, while there is no minigame inserted in a sex scene. You can always make the girls orgasm with just clicking a few dialogues, even skipping some positions (one single exception: Jill first time). Why hasn't he implemented a wasy that if you choose the wrong options, the girl won't like the sex, or have a detraction of points in the RP variable? I mean, it's something we've seen for so many years in porn games, that's the basic. IN a scene you can bang her ass 1 time or 100 times and the final result is the same. How is this immersive or acceptable for someone acclaimed by the masses for "perfectionism" (LOL)?

The scene scenes are scarce in BaD (compared to the total amount of each update), yes, but that's because he focuses on the other content. He won't have many variants based on specific kinks, that probably would be hardly manageable. It would be too good to see a difference where if you "corrupt" more one girl, she becomes more sexually adventurous and confident. It won't happen it's not DPC's approach. His priorities in the story are others. Sometimes I feel he would be more happy to make BaD without the lewd stuff. He's more excited by minigames, free roams etc.

I skip all the animation consideration because I simply don't care, they suck, it's fine, most of AVN have crap animations, DAZ is limited, you cannot expect them to learn something complex like Blender for producing a 5 second loop.

I like the complex plot of BaD for example, I find Derek really funny, so even if the eroticism is lacking I find it's a really fun and enjoyable AVN. I don't judge an AVN as a literature product. AVN are embarrassing if you expect or pretend too much from them. Maybe you have higher expectations from BaD due to its success, well, we all have and that's why here you'll find people often complaining about several aspects.
If the criticisms are made in a constructive and well-argued way, in my opinion they are useful to everyone, both to DPC and to the other authors. Because the margins for improvement in the sector are really wide.
But keep in mind that no AVN will ever please everyone, there is a range of different expectations and tastes in the public.
 

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But in that case I'm fearing a rushed ending that doesn't properly close the many open narrative threads.

For how we know his personality, in case he felt the urge to close BaD, he would rather cut the plot writing time rather than switch back to 30fps and give up the cut scenes. That would be like him admitting: "My dear fanboys, the weepers I banned were right on a second thought: that was indeed a bunch of useless stuff". :HideThePain: His ego would not allow him :HideThePain:
the ending is very difficult, it will always disappoint some people, but for Badik at least on the level of the story it is not necessary to invent anything incredible, closing the story is quite easy: an epilogue a few years away from the end of college.

i doubt that if in the next chapter half of the animations were still in 30fps it would be a problem for so many players...

to hasten the closure just cut the superfluous stuff, reduce the SGs with ‘story’ (Cathy disappeared for 3-4 chapters, it wasn't a problem), limit the new minigames, cut a few subplots or secondary scenes, closing the already open ones more quickly. there are a myriad of things that in a college story you can tell but you can also omit
 

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I doubt that if in the next chapter half of the animations were still in 30fps it would be a problem for so many players...
I think that the following categories:
- Yay! Finally got rid of that useless 60fps
- I don't care
- 60fps were better, but 30fps are ok too

taken together would sum up to at least 95% of the players.

So it would not backfire him, IF he allowed himself to do it.

What i don't think is that DPC, after having flaunted 60fps as something fundamental and shutting down those that prefer 30fps but quicker rendering time, would ever admit (even to himself) that the best compromise between quality and rendering time was actually 30 fps. :HideThePain:
 
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I obviously can't speak for DPC's imagination in terms of sexual fantasies and scenarios, but I would suspect that he is not including some of the kinkier tags in Being a DIK because it is a (relatively) mainstream game--by design, I believe. If he started including incest or even more controversial tags, he risks being de-platformed by Patreon or even worse, potentially. If he were an obscure developer struggling to make some money, it might be a whole different game, but at this point his adding really questionable shit would likely only take the game from "Watch My Girlfriend Watch Me Play Being a DIK" videos on YouTube to simply I-hope-no-one-ever-catches-me-playing-Being-a-DIK thoughts by its players.
My personal critique is different, I don't expect any particular or extreme kink in BaD, just a better depiction and effort by DPC when dealing with "vanilla" sex scenes. I would expect the same attention he gives to minigames and other extra stuff when dealing with a sex scene. So, Tremolo misses a step, makes a wrong move? The final result should change. MC never licks her pussy? She reminds that, he loses relationship points. He goes straight in the ass? Scene ends. I mean, why are the sex scene so plain (and boring, that I agree) in term of variance?
Currently, you can click just three options and she has an orgasm, or you can click 30 times all the options and she still comes once. Same satisfaction, same dialogues.
Why the dialogues in the sex scenes are so effortless, while he cures so much other dialogues? This I don't understand, in a porn game.
I repeat, I don't expect more variance in the scenarios (like corruption path for Maya or similar) because it won't happen, but a more refined approach to sex scenes and better eroticism? Yes!

I would suggest to DPC to get help for the erotic scenes from his wife, females are usually so much skilled in erotica, but he probably hasn't shown his work to her feminist wife :KEK:
 

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I found an interesting poll DPC made for the Episode 3 threesome with Riona and Quinn.
In this poll DPC showed 20 threesome positions for patreons to choose.
The cool thing is that these 20 positions are used in many scenes in the game.
Here are the ones that I found. If I miss any please tell me.
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Goddamm, that preview does things to me...

J/M are always my first playthrough, that only reinforced that.

This update might justify its wait time if that scene is as good as it looks.
I was looking back at my threesome positions post and noticed that position 7 looks somewhat similar to the one in the Josy and Maya preview.
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Krytax123

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Broooos i hate minigames so much but im not able to deactivate them simply because youre not able to punch caleb properly without :LOL: :cry:

I like the mansion repair and the party planning tho, brawler is fineish, anything else can go fuck itself
 

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Broooos i hate minigames so much but im not able to deactivate them simply because youre not able to punch caleb properly without :LOL: :cry:

I like the mansion repair and the party planning tho, brawler is fineish, anything else can go fuck itself
there is a standalone version of the mansion repair minigame I believe
 
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