VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[iamcomming]

There are different types of intelligence. Just because he sucks at putting things together and seeing how it's connected, doesn't mean he's an idiot in everything. While it's weird that he doesn't know who Sage's parents are when everybody else seems to know (it doesn't help that she never uses her last name and uses Morgan), I can kinda relate to that. I have always been the last to find out things. But he has a much more social social life than I've ever had. I guess he simply doesn't listen to gossip and misses a lot because of that. He's not really into small talk.

social life need two thing
-Maya, why are you sad on that picture if you celebrating finishing the school?
-i will cum inside your pussy, Sage. are you on pill? btw what is your full name?

Yes, I know, it probably looks pathetic from the outside.
But I don't really give a fuck.
I'm not judging Quinn. But she needs to stop.
Not because what she's doing is illegal -I don't give a fuck about the laws.
Not because her actions are harming anyone -I don't give a fuck about those people.
But because it's too dangerous for her.
Yes, I'm afraid for her.

she needs to stop. but how dare you say to a goddess what she have to do? moreover to your goddess
its heresy

 

[Jurifeet]

Thank you Rusty for making Tremolo famous, and Jacob for being one of the best bros, he even used his only DIK code for us to cover Jade forbidden relationship

 

[Better Cock Spock]

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Thank you Rusty for making Tremolo famous, and Jacob for being one of the best bros, he even used his only DIK code for us to cover Jade forbidden relationship View attachment 4390199

That's Jamie, not Rusty

 

[I'm Canadian bub]

That's Jamie, not Rusty

I had to go take a leak, I come back and of course you've beaten me to it, Spock.
We are not worthy, bub. Not worthy of your grandeur.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I had to go take a leak, I come back and of course you've beaten me to it, Spock.
We are not worthy, bub. Not worthy of your grandeur.

 

[Jurifeet]

That's Jamie, not Rusty

Oh sorry sorry, my fucking bad at least I didn't mistake Jacob with someone else

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

The Sage is a Burke situation is badly written, but it is not badly imagined. It does not make MC stupid in any way. It makes DPC stupid because he does a poor job of building up to it.

1. It is normal for people at that age to introduce themselves only by their first name. They are trying to establish their own identity as independent adults rather than as members of their family. "Mr. [last name] is my father. Call me [first name]" is a cliche for a reason. The way people learn last names is by hearing a teacher use them and since Sage and MC are not in a class together it is not weird at all that he hasn't heard her last name.

2. Another way people might learn a last name is if a lot of people have the same first name and even then nick names are an option. Case in point: John and John Boy. Sage is not a common first name. On top of that this is fiction and it is down right weird how often every character has a different first name in a work of fiction. Even if those names are really common. This is so expected in fiction that it is not weird at all for Sage to be the only Sage around and so her last name doesn't really matter.

3. Sage despises spoiled rich brats and puts actual effort into distancing herself from the Burkes. She also has a temper so even when people find out about it they most likely get the idea that it is not wise to bring it up and just call Sage by her first name as she prefers. It's quite likely that even the teachers just call her Morgan rather than Morgan-Burke. Personally if I was a teacher and knew what kind of a person Tybalt was, I'd respect Sage's wish for distance and just call her miss Morgan.

4. No doubt people who have been there for a year or more know who Sage is. MC however has only been there two months when he finds out. He is also not the gossiping type that needs to know that kind of stuff about everybody and he is so busy with his own stuff that it's natural for idle curiosity about his friends' family situations to be a low priority.

The situation is completely reasonable. It's the build up that sucks.

1. Sage's last name being Morgan is never mentioned before the actual situation. It would have been really easy to bring it up. Just have Bella say: "I expect you to turn up on time, miss Morgan." There were actually two times Sage was late so that's two golden opportunities missed.

2. The general sentiment of students preferring to use their first names is not shown properly, yet Cathy for example could have dropped some last names in class and that could have been followed up on easily. Making fun of Dawe's last name. Commenting on how unlike Derek and Maya are when hearing them called by their last name draws attention to the fact that they are twins. Asking Josy if her step-brother Tommy's last name has been changed to Taylor. Just have a random student do the cliche "Mr. [last name] is my father. Call me [first name]"

3. DPC is and has been lazy about last names. He didn't have to assign everyone a last name but there should have been a few and so dropping Sage's last name wouldn't have been suspicious. However the worst instance of this failing is MC himself. "Miller" should just be his last name by default and it should be established at the start of the game. There should also be a damn prompt for his first name.

It's a really sloppy flaw in a story that has so many strong points.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

The Sage is a Burke situation is badly written, but it is not badly imagined. It does not make MC stupid in any way. It makes DPC stupid because he does a poor job of building up to it.

1. It is normal for people at that age to introduce themselves only by their first name. They are trying to establish their own identity as independent adults rather than as members of their family. "Mr. [last name] is my father. Call me [first name]" is a cliche for a reason. The way people learn last names is by hearing a teacher use them and since Sage and MC are not in a class together it is not weird at all that he hasn't heard her last name.

2. Another way people might learn a last name is if a lot of people have the same first name and even then nick names are an option. Case in point: John and John Boy. Sage is not a common first name. On top of that this is fiction and it is down right weird how often every character has a different first name in a work of fiction. Even if those names are really common. This is so expected in fiction that it is not weird at all for Sage to be the only Sage around and so her last name doesn't really matter.

3. Sage despises spoiled rich brats and puts actual effort into distancing herself from the Burkes. She also has a temper so even when people find out about it they most likely get the idea that it is not wise to bring it up and just call Sage by her first name as she prefers. It's quite likely that even the teachers just call her Morgan rather than Morgan-Burke. Personally if I was a teacher and knew what kind of a person Tybalt was, I'd respect Sage's wish for distance and just call her miss Morgan.

4. No doubt people who have been there for a year or more know who Sage is. MC however has only been there two months when he finds out. He is also not the gossiping type that needs to know that kind of stuff about everybody and he is so busy with his own stuff that it's natural for idle curiosity about his friends' family situations to be a low priority.

The situation is completely reasonable. It's the build up that sucks.

1. Sage's last name being Morgan is never mentioned before the actual situation. It would have been really easy to bring it up. Just have Bella say: "I expect you to turn up on time, miss Morgan." There were actually two times Sage was late so that's two golden opportunities missed.

2. The general sentiment of students preferring to use their first names is not shown properly, yet Cathy for example could have dropped some last names in class and that could have been followed up on easily. Making fun of Dawe's last name. Commenting on how unlike Derek and Maya are when hearing them called by their last name draws attention to the fact that they are twins. Asking Josy if her step-brother Tommy's last name has been changed to Taylor. Just have a random student do the cliche "Mr. [last name] is my father. Call me [first name]"

3. DPC is and has been lazy about last names. He didn't have to assign everyone a last name but there should have been a few and so dropping Sage's last name wouldn't have been suspicious. However the worst instance of this failing is MC himself. "Miller" should just be his last name by default and it should be established at the start of the game. There should also be a damn prompt for his first name.

It's a really sloppy flaw in a story that has so many strong points.

I feel like if Morgan was established beforehand, the twist would ironically be received even more poorly. Not knowing a person's last name can be acceptable, especially if they try not to advertise it, but hyphenated last names are less common. It'd almost be like DPC lied just to make the twist work. How or why would anyone guess that Sage Morgan is secretly Jade's daughter and Tyballs' brother?

 

[Macky009]

That's Jamie, not Rusty

That a very quick reply it only took you 3 min to reply.

 

[Mordreut]

Good morning, coffee time

We really should have a sticky post that gets updated with the newest info. But people would proberbly still miss it.

Of course they will. Never underestimate the laziness and stupidity of people.

Yeah, I watch a lot of Twitch and despite streamers having the game name in the title AND on the screen, people still come in asking what game it is.

The only way people stop asking about the date of the update would be a giant popup message and to close it you need to write the the whole message

One of my few complaints with the game is that most of the LIs are out of the ordinary characters. There are 2 normal college relationships with normal college girls. All the rest are either prostitutes, strippers, teachers, a throuple, drug dealers or a mix of several.

Normal college girls? Jill is a rich heiresss, descendant from one of the founders of the college and Sage is the president of the sole female sorority and (adoptive) daughter of one of the most powerful men in the college... In BaDIK (And the AVN games) there are no normal girls

What, no love for Lydia?

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Don't worry for her, she is the Derek's main LI

If Quinn gets kicked out of the HOTs, or at least loses her position as VP, who do you think will take over and become the new President after Sage?

The most "normal" candidates would be Elena or Heather, but using BaDIK logic the most probable candidate would be one of the girls with path with the MC (Lily, Maya or Josy)

Yeah, OK, you're probably right.
Someone bad might say that this dress highlights her saggy boobs.
Someone could, but not me.
I won't say something like that.
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Sage having saggy boobs?

Seriously, you are blind

Quinn's happy ending:

Shit hits the fan and Quinn goes on the run, trying to escape her criminal contacts as much as the law. She avoids them all and survives. Years later she tracks MC down and turns up on his doorstep with a bag of groceries. They stare at each other for a while then she says: "I brought broccoli."

- MC: "I don't ask for brocoli in the order, can you check it, please?"
- Maya's voice: "Don't forget to tip the devilverwoman, darling"
- Quinn:

It's been a long time since I played the beginning without skipping dialogue so I decided to do that this time.
The things your dad says about trouble from second guessing things (his trouble with the law that has been hinted about, maybe?) and especially the line about regretting not using a condom.
Let's play with the idea that the MC has an unknown older sibling, who could that be? I doubt DPC would make it someone you can date, so who could it be? A possibility, and worst-case scenario, would be Tybalt.

In this case, I would use the "MC is a Burgmeister" theory and Rusty is his older brother

Derek is your son with Maya, but is kidnapped as a newborn by Future Derek to go back in time and make it look like Maya has a twin. While in the past, he changes his name to Neil and meets a girl named Lynette

Nah, The MC is his own grandfather. Futurama style:

 

[strayparanormal]

Anyone knows who's that girl?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

- MC: "I don't ask for brocoli in the order, can you check it, please?"
- Maya's voice: "Don't forget to tip the devilverwoman, darling"
- Quinn:

I'd actually kind of love that

Nah, The MC is his own grandfather. Futurama style:

But he IS his own grandfather in my theory
MC > Derek=Neil > MC

 

[Better Cock Spock]

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Anyone knows who's that girl?

Not yet. Popular theory is Yoga Girl.

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[Roger-a-Dale]

I feel like if Morgan was established beforehand, the twist would ironically be received even more poorly. Not knowing a person's last name can be acceptable, especially if they try not to advertise it, but hyphenated last names are less common. It'd almost be like DPC lied just to make the twist work. How or why would anyone guess that Sage Morgan is secretly Jade's daughter and Tyballs' brother?
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That is also a point, but having the "she uses Morgan" when she never actually does it is straight up bad writing. The twist might not have been well received, but it wouldn't have been bad writing.

And there would have been ways to hint at Morgan-Burke too.

Bella: I expect you to turn up on time, miss Morgan-

Sage(quickly): Just Morgan! Please. Or just Sage.

Bella: *Incredulous look*

Sage: I don't like being related to... him. Okay? I don't need reminders of that.

Bella: I see. Nevertheless, you are late... Sage.

Sage: Sorry. It won't happen again.

MC: What was that about?

 

[KАRАMBA]

Sage having saggy boobs?

I didn't say that.
I said that someone bad could say that.
Someone could, but not me.
So don't blame me.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

That is also a point, but having the "she uses Morgan" when she never actually does it is straight up bad writing. The twist might not have been well received, but it wouldn't have been bad writing.

And there would have been ways to hint at Morgan-Burke too.

Bella: I expect you to turn up on time, miss Morgan-

Sage(quickly): Just Morgan! Please. Or just Sage.

Bella: *Incredulous look*

Sage: I don't like being related to... him. Okay? I don't need reminders of that.

Bella: I see. Nevertheless, you are late... Sage.

Sage: Sorry. It won't happen again.

MC: What was that about?

"She uses Morgan" was done every badly, I agree. And I like the spirit of your scenario, but maybe not the overt hint towards being related to a certain male though.

It's funny how MC decides to confirm that Josy's name is just Josephine Taylor, but doesn't do that with anyone else. Or think "maybe I should start asking for full names from now on", or anything a bit more proactive to avoid this kind of situation again.

 

[MiltonPowers]

"She uses Morgan" was done every badly, I agree. And I like the spirit of your scenario, but maybe not the overt hint towards being related to a certain male though.

It's funny how MC decides to confirm that Josy's name is just Josephine Taylor, but doesn't do that with anyone else. Or think "maybe I should start asking for full names from now on", or anything a bit more proactive to avoid this kind of situation again.

Yeah Well, you know.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

"She uses Morgan" was done every badly, I agree. And I like the spirit of your scenario, but maybe not the overt hint towards being related to a certain male though.

It's funny how MC decides to confirm that Josy's name is just Josephine Taylor, but doesn't do that with anyone else. Or think "maybe I should start asking for full names from now on", or anything a bit more proactive to avoid this kind of situation again.

It could use some fine tuning, but I think I did pretty well for a couple of minutes worth of thinking.

And yeah MC not learning a lesson from it is a sign of stupidity even I would accept. Of course the real reason he doesn't do that is because DPC would have to actually give his characters last names and he is too lazy to do that. So MC isn't stupid, DPC is too lazy to let him be smart. It's practically divine intervention.

 

[Jurifeet]

Currently replaying the game for M&J route. This movie make me curious, any DIKs here can share your theory about this movie?

Clearly it isn't Narnia

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Yeah Well, you know.
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Poor Derek, everyone thinks he has a baby dick because of the gay guard catcher pic

It could use some fine tuning, but I think I did pretty well for a couple of minutes worth of thinking.

And yeah MC not learning a lesson from it is a sign of stupidity even I would accept. Of course the real reason he doesn't do that is because DPC would have to actually give his characters last names and he is too lazy to do that. So MC isn't stupid, DPC is too lazy to let him be smart. It's practically divine intervention.

I think your first version was pretty succinct.

1. Sage's last name being Morgan is never mentioned before the actual situation. It would have been really easy to bring it up. Just have Bella say: "I expect you to turn up on time, miss Morgan." There were actually two times Sage was late so that's two golden opportunities missed.

Just casually drop in Morgan with no further comment.

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Currently replaying the game for M&J route. This movie make me curious, any DIKs here can share your theory about this movie?

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It's a movie about Chad