VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[NonyaBusinezz]

It's not very healthy for MC to be fixated on this. Obsession. Our guy is too easily wounded and takes things close to heart. If you don't get out of this emotional state, it can end badly with a fall to the emotional bottom, fortunately he got out.

Ngl the entire EP9-10 could of survived without her. Just feels like a tossed in plot device.
Didn't think her 'prologue' story was really needed either.

Never did understand why so many do the classic "gf left and now returns" trope. As so many don't even have it build up overtime then leaving, its just the very first scene. In that scenario why would I have anymore connection to her than someone just as brand new and connects more with.

Maybe he should of brought her back earlier to actually sell me on conflicting options but now at E9 its like, meh.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Ngl the entire EP9-10 could of survived without her. Just feels like a tossed in plot device.

Didn't think her 'prologue' story was really needed either.

He can, but she was a great refresh for the game and added new challenges for the MC + we got a great alt-girl option for the MC. But to each his own.
Her prologue served as a setup for Zoey personality to add some variety, how that will work we'll see. Could be done better with Interlude, I think.

 

[NebulousShooter]

That kind of thinking is ultimately self-destructive and just shifts the blame.

Yet a very realistic portrayal of a first love, with its fears and doubts, granted irl it usually happens much earlier in life between 13-15yo rather than 18-19yo, but still. I appreciate how its done.

The problem is the audience that has a bias for the MC. It is what it is in this genre, thats why I advice people, if you are planning to do an AVN have the MC make the mistake that ends the relationship, people will forgive him faster than a LI. The moment a LI makes a mistake she is dead for a lot of people and nothing will ever change their minds, because the MC made the mistake against an NPC, but the LI made the mistake against THEM.

I am still shocked DPC didn't just used her as immediate relationship drama, like most people feared, he handled her so well the she skyrocketed for me into top 3 waifus. Hope he sticks the landing both on the closure and romance routes.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Why cant I fuck every girl I see? That's why this game sucks.

this, but unironically

 

[NebulousShooter]

It's not very healthy for MC to be fixated on this. Obsession. Our guy is too easily wounded and takes things close to heart. If you don't get out of this emotional state, it can end badly with a fall to the emotional bottom, fortunately he got out.

Don't just dance around it, SAY IT, YOU COWARD! Josy saved him.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Don't just dance around it, SAY IT, YOU COWARD! Josy saved him.

Never!
I will never side with Josy!

 

[Tadpol]

I like Zoey quite a bit. She's cute as hell and her backstory is pretty good. Shitty, but believable.
However, none of my Tremolo's are happy with her. Not always "Mad at her". But she's a terrible fucking friend. Most of the time I ignore her and treat her like shit because of it. She hasn't really apologized in a meaningful way for leaving you friendless and ghosting you at all. Doesn't respect that while she decided she didn't care about you until she got bored and sucked at surfing that we had a very hard time and were pretty broken about it. But get you a little female attention and suddenly she cares.

But that's so realistic.

Her main problem is we never really discuss her with anybody (one quick talk). There havent been enough flashbacks to show our connection. She should at least be featured in a heavy talk we have with whoever we are dating about why you are/were hurt. Gets sympathy from the girl, gives more backstory. Makes us care about them both more. Another reason the "Better friend" question has no weight.

At the end of episode 10, she finally realizes what her relationship with the MC was really like before her “Interlude”. It wasn't just two teenage friends discovering sex together. They were in love. She followed her dream, it got messed up, and she comes back and realizes that her dream was illusory (I'm not sure how to put this) and that it also cost her the MC (potentially).

For me, we don't need to have any more discussion of the MC on this subject. His discussion with Bella and the way he reacted when he thought she had a boyfriend is enough to show how he feels about Zoey. In the last episode, she finally realizes this, at the same time as she realizes it was the same for her.


Things really need to move forward with Zoey in the next episode. There needs to be a clear discussion between her and the MC, at the end of which they either move on (just friends) or get together.

A big problem here is that if the MC is with a MG, how do you deal with that situation? Which makes me worry that it won't happen right away (you have to reduce the story content before adding this kind of content-intensive event) or that the player won't have much choice (if with a MG, Zoey remains just a friend).

(Or maybe all that extra development time has been put to good use...)

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Don't just dance around it, SAY IT, YOU COWARD! Josy saved him.

No Patrick did. He's the reason why Maya and Josy tried to seek comfort elsewhere.

I don't know if I should be grateful or hate him for that

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

NebulousShooter .
My subjective opinion. Our guy was already saved by the time the game started. He was a bit vulnerable and hysterical, which is normal for a 19 year old, he was unsure of what he wants. But his friendship with Zoey really saved him from turning into a Nika Cyrus dark version, who would one day come to school with AR-15 and homemade bombs.
Guy was a nobody without friends, suffering from bullying. She pulled him out of the hole and added bright colors to his life, which improved his mental state and changed him for the better. He suffered from Zoey departure, but he dealt with it, earlier version of him would hardly have been able to do this, and even more unlikely to talk to Josy ever.
Josy helped him distract himself when several months had already passed after Zoey left, but "saved him" is too much for her. He barely spoke to her until the events of the game start, even though they worked together all summer and she was just crush for him. How long had it been since Zoey left? I estimate more than half a year.
Seriosly, our guy should stop crushing on every girl he see and thinking that this is something serious

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Zoey bad

 

[Macky009]

NebulousShooter .
My subjective opinion. Our guy was already saved by the time the game started. He was a bit vulnerable and hysterical, which is normal for a 19 year old, he was unsure of what he wants. But his friendship with Zoey really saved him from turning into a Nika Cyrus dark version, who would one day come to school with AR-15 and homemade bombs.
Guy was a nobody without friends, suffering from bullying. She pulled him out of the hole and added bright colors to his life, which improved his mental state and changed him for the better. He suffered from Zoey departure, but he dealt with it, earlier version of him would hardly have been able to do this, and even more unlikely to talk to Josy ever.
Josy helped him distract himself when several months had already passed after Zoey left, but "saved him" is too much for her. He barely spoke to her until the events of the game start, even though they worked together all summer and she was just crush for him. How long had it been since Zoey left? I estimate more than half a year.
Seriosly, our guy should stop crushing on every girl he see and thinking that this is something serious

Well I think because other than Zoey MC did not have a proper relationship that's why he is crushing in every woman he interacted with thinking that they have an interest with him. In short he is a "Man Whore"

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[World of Pants]

There's a somewhat similar reaction when Maya tells her that she kissed MC, and that it "felt real". I don't think Sage would hold it against either girl, but the kiss with Maya might bother her more than the sex with Cammy.

You know I get the feeling that Sage isn't just jealous of MC's feelings for Maya, but also of Maya's feelings for MC.
So much so, that I'm starting to expect that if Maya and Josy split up (and MC isn't on Maya or Sage's path), there's a pretty good chance that Maya and Sage might end up together!

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Well I think because other than Zoey MC did not have a proper relationship that's why he is crushing in every woman he interacted with thinking that they have an interest with him. In short he is a "Man Whore"

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He is very rookie in love, by his own words. Need to grow up.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Zoey bad
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Spock, you inspired me to make a wojak meme version of girls being rejected by Tremolo.



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[Billthehachetman]

I am still shocked DPC didn't just used her as immediate relationship drama, like most people feared, he handled her so well the she skyrocketed for me into top 3 waifus. Hope he sticks the landing both on the closure and romance routes.

I was interested in her when she was shown in that flashback when your trying to get Bella to like you in the cafeteria, it seems to me that everyone forgets about that flashback being when we are first "introduced" to her, not the end of ep 8(?)/interlude.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Spock, you inspired me to make a wojak meme version of girls being rejected by Tremolo.


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[Macky009]

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Josy become a fucking demon she needs to be slay

 

[ModiThorrson]

A big problem here is that if the MC is with a MG, how do you deal with that situation? Which makes me worry that it won't happen right away (you have to reduce the story content before adding this kind of content-intensive event) or that the player won't have much choice (if with a MG, Zoey remains just a friend).

I know in my main save my MC has moved on and is happy with Maya and Josy, but I will definitely do an Others path where I get back together with her. I like Zoey in general but after a year away with almost no contact, can't just pick up where ya left off.

 

[mike12013]

Opinions like these are why we need the 2nd amendment.

Hey, i'm not in america, doesn't apply to me

 

[HE.GA.2023]

I just want to say thanks to all the people who allow the normies parasities, like me, play for free