VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Mormont]

If Quinn needs helps(pls give us option to be able to if that's the case) my guess it'll be less over the use of drugs given she doesn't display particular addict behaviour(and given many of MC's will be pot users) but helping out regarding problems she has with her dealer financially or freeing her from whatever hold they are exerting over her. I'm curious about the situation as to who the dealer is, whether it might be an unpleasant ex of hers or someone we've met.

It's certainly a possibility I'd imagine more so on the dik route and we've done all the scenes with Quinn the texting she and the MC had was very interesting it felt like she wanted to reach out more to the MC but stopped herself now that has me the most intrigued about her will that go further and will she ask us for help? I think it's been said that Vinny might be the dealer.

 

[galora]

Oh thank god thought it was more than a bugfix... Oh man first reaction was SHIT an 8GB game I can't pass on has come out... how am I going to make space, and I'll need to wait for hours.

 

[Aristos]

That's because the whole 2.1 GB patch is all that's been shared (or at least reported as being shared). You can apply the patch to v0.5.0 if you encountered any bugs.

Yes, I read about that after writing that post.
Thanks for your efforts uploading stuff

 

[ThatGuyWho]

If, in the future, we get the opportunity to help Quinn, please make it be a Chick decision. It would be stupid to lock a good deed behind a jerk route.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Then why does John Boy say, "Is this it for us?", if this is only a temporary problem? Sure, they don't have enough money to make the repairs and continue to have parties in the immediate future and now they have to choose which one is the priority, but if they know that they'll still get funding after repairing the house with the money they have, why are they so despondent? Why are they acting like it's the end of the DIKs if it's only a temporary problem?

It would also completely undercut the point of the MC's speech if he was basically just saying, "let's support ourselves temporarily so we can fix the house and then go back to having Rusty's Dad pay for everything". The MC's speech was about him telling them that this is not the way things should be and that they should be supporting themselves through their own hard work themselves rather than have someone else support them.

This is meant to be a sea change moment for the DIKs, where they stop living the easy life and "getting everything for free" by working to pay their own way and to support each other and their frat. It would be absolutely meaningless if Rusty's Dad simply isn't paying for the repairs but will still pay for everything else. That's why Tommy storms out, because he doesn't want to do any work, he just wants it all handed to him but what he's become accustomed to has now changed for good and he won't accept it.

Did John Boy hear Rusty and his Dad's conversation? He doesn't know anything, all he knows is that Rusty said his Dad won't pay to fix it this time. They don't know anything about anything other than for the immediate future because Rusty didn't say anything about later. Dude you are literally turning an immediate conversation into a permanent fact of life.

No the MC's conversation is all about this is the time we are supposed to grow up and become adults, how can we do this if we depend on others. How are we ever going to become self reliant if we rely on others. It has absolutely nothing to do with OMG Rusty is NEVER going to get ANY money EVER again as long as he lives so we are now screwed.

No it wouldn't be meaningless if the MC gets the DIk's to support themselves rather than rely on others. That's called growing up, it's a coming of age story. Just because I became an adult, it didn't mean my parent's cut me off. It meant that I chose to try to support myself rather than rely on other people. Not that I couldn't have called home or asked my parent's for help if I REALLY needed it. I chose not to, to try to stand on my own two feet.

Maybe that's what Rusty's Dad is trying to do as well. He thinks maybe if I make them struggle "this" time they will realize that they need to grow up and support themselves. Maybe Rusty's Dad thinks they need to get out of the bubble as well. That in no way implies that Rusty is cutoff. It's called growing up dude and we all have to do it at some point or we will always be little spoiled brats crying for mommy and daddy to save us from the cold, cruel world.

 

[kylemorre]

Do I have to download 0.5.0 and then download 0.5.1 patch? Is there no all in one link?

 

[ThatGuyWho]

You guys are overanalyzing that speech lol

 

[Holy Bacchus]

If, in the future, we get the opportunity to help Quinn, please make it be a Chick decision. It would be stupid to lock a good deed behind a jerk route.

I think we'll get both; a DIK choice to not help her, and a CHICK choice to help her. It all depends on what happens between now and then and what she possibly might end up doing to him and those around him. She might end up doing something that negatively impacts him, either directly or indirectly, or does something that negatively impacts someone close to him. In this instance, the MC can either choose to forgive and help her (CHICK), or not help her because of what she's done (DIK).

 

[lemonfreak]

I downloaded the patch from 4.0 to 5.1 but the game won't update. According to the info in the patch file it won't work if the game has been modded, I was using the scrappy mod but I have no idea which file/s to remove. I think it's probably best to reinstall the entire game. Doe's anyone have a save file from the end of the 4.0 update?

Download 'Detected mod error fix' from the first post

 

[ThatGuyWho]

I think we'll get both; a DIK choice to not help her, and a CHICK choice to not help her. It all depends on what happens between now and then and what she possibly might end up doing to him and those around him. She might end up doing something that negatively impacts him, either directly or indirectly, or does something that negatively impacts someone close to him. In this instance, the MC can either choose to forgive and help her (CHICK), or not help her because of what she's done (DIK).

This is probably what is going to happen.

The way I imagined it going the wrong way is that we can't help her because we didn't pursue any relationship with her prior to the choice.

 

[xsssssssss]

If, in the future, we get the opportunity to help Quinn, please make it be a Chick decision. It would be stupid to lock a good deed behind a jerk route.

There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to help her on the Dik or that the type of help should equate to a chick choice.

 

[Ghostly Hale]

Fuck Everything CHICK!! Straight DIK route!!!!

 

[lemonfreak]

Fuck Everything CHICK!! Straight DIK route!!!!

Aka instant gratification vs long-term rewards. Yes, right Dik is the better choice if you want sex but I expect that to turn around later in development.

It's why I have mulitiple saves.

 

[ename144]

Yeah, I find it interesting that all she offers Rich is weed. No coke, meth, morphine etc. While what she's been selling the jocks (Birth Control pills or sugar masquerading as them) is also kind of weak sauce.

In terms of addiction, I think both Tommy and Riona are in deeper than Quinn. So if DPC has anyone ODing in the game (and I am not saying there will be any at all), it'll be between those two methinks.

Maybe, but I think Quinn is pretty hooked. She is clearly using some fairly hard stuff, harder than anything we've seen Riona use. Based on the scene at the start of Episode 2, she had to talk Tommy into using whatever they injected. She can say it isn't addictive, but I wouldn't trust her word on that when she was sober, much less when she was high!

On top of that, Quinn's actions are, IMHO, the most unhinged of the known drug users. Sure, Tommy is a complete jackass freeloading off others, but that feels more like entitlement than addiction. And even he realized her plan to ditch the DIKs was doomed to failure. Riona has been calling out Quinn's idiocy since we first learned there was a problem.

Quinn, meanwhile, thought she could solve the problem of telling Tommy by avoiding him. She tried to sell drugs to Tybalt, and was only saved from her own stupidity by the fact Tybalt pawned her off on Rich. She is, to all appearances, trying to bring Ashley and Maya into her prostitution ring, and based on how she handled Mona's defection, doesn't have much of a plan if they spill the beans.

People will often do irrational things, so it could just be that Quinn is headstrong and unable to face consequences. But that doesn't mean the drugs aren't playing a part, too. It certainly wouldn't surprise me to learn the root of her shortage is that Quinn has been using more and more drugs to cope with all the problems coming up.

The drug arc is only just getting started, so we'll see where it goes. But I don't think it's coincidence that Quinn is at its center.

 

[ThatGuyWho]

Aka instant gratification vs long-term rewards. Yes, right Dik is the better choice if you want sex but I expect that to turn around later in development.

It's why I have mulitiple saves.

Imagine having to choose one route and not being able to do the other one lmao

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Did John Boy hear Rusty and his Dad's conversation? He doesn't know anything, all he knows is that Rusty said his Dad won't pay to fix it this time. They don't know anything about anything other than for the immediate future because Rusty didn't say anything about later. Dude you are literally turning an immediate conversation into a permanent fact of life.

No the MC's conversation is all about this is the time we are supposed to grow up and become adults, how can we do this if we depend on others. How are we ever going to become self reliant if we rely on others. It has absolutely nothing to do with OMG Rusty is NEVER going to get ANY money EVER again as long as he lives so we are now screwed.

No it wouldn't be meaningless if the MC gets the DIk's to support themselves rather than rely on others. That's called growing up, it's a coming of age story. Just because I became an adult, it didn't mean my parent's cut me off. It meant that I chose to try to support myself rather than rely on other people. Not that I couldn't have called home or asked my parent's for help if I REALLY needed it. I chose not to, to try to stand on my own two feet.

Maybe that's what Rusty's Dad is trying to do as well. He thinks maybe if I make them struggle "this" time they will realize that they need to grow up and support themselves. Maybe Rusty's Dad thinks they need to get out of the bubble as well. That in no way implies that Rusty is cutoff. It's called growing up dude and we all have to do it at some point or we will always be little spoiled brats crying for mommy and daddy to save us from the cold, cruel world.

The DIKs are cut off from Rusty's Dad's money, that's what this is about. They have to start operating like a proper frat house from now on by working to support it themselves if they don't want the frat to go under. This doesn't mean that Rusty personally has no money, it just means that the DIKs can no longer rely on Rusty's Dad to support them as he has been doing.

Rusty's Dad bought the DIK mansion, he will have likely also paid for all the furnishings, and will have been paying all the bills and providing money to Rusty to help pay for their parties and other expenses. He was basically the DIK bank account, and now he isn't and probably won't be again because he's probably sick of paying for it all.

Yes, this will probably be a lesson for Rusty and all the other DIKs to learn to stand on their own two feet, but once they learn that lesson and become more self-sufficient, Rusty's Dad isn't going to start funding them again. This will be it for the DIKs from now on; to operate like every other frat and sorority by supporting themselves rather than being supported by someone with deep pockets.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

You guys are overanalyzing that speech lol

No we are literally arguing the exact same point except Holy Bacchus seems to think Rusty got cut off permanently and I don't think he did.

 

[ThatGuyWho]

The DIKs are cut off from Rusty's Dad's money, that's what this is about. They have to start operating like a proper frat house from now on by working to support it themselves if they don't want the frat to go under. This doesn't mean that Rusty personally has no money, it just means that the DIKs can no longer rely on Rusty's Dad to support them as he has been doing.

Rusty's Dad bought the DIK mansion, he will have likely also paid for all the furnishings, and will have been paying all the bills and providing money to Rusty to help pay for their parties and other expenses. He was basically the DIK bank account, and now he isn't and probably won't be again because he's probably sick of paying for it all.

Yes, this will probably be a lesson for Rusty and all the other DIKs to learn to stand on their own two feet, but once they learn that lesson and become more self-sufficient, Rusty's Dad isn't going to start funding them again. This will be it for the DIKs from now on; to operate like every other frat and sorority by supporting themselves rather than being supported by someone with deep pockets.

That's exactly what happened. I don't know what all this speech analysis was about, it's a simple matter.

 

[Mormont]

Cndyrvr4lf You'll be their all-day explaining that just giving you the heads up many of us have been there

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

The DIKs are cut off from Rusty's Dad's money, that's what this is about. They have to start operating like a proper frat house from now on by working to support it themselves if they don't want the frat to go under. This doesn't mean that Rusty personally has no money, it just means that the DIKs can no longer rely on Rusty's Dad to support them as he has been doing.

Rusty's Dad bought the DIK mansion, he will have likely also paid for all the furnishings, and will have been paying all the bills and providing money to Rusty to help pay for their parties and other expenses. He was basically the DIK bank account, and now he isn't and probably won't be again because he's probably sick of paying for it all.

Yes, this will probably be a lesson for Rusty and all the other DIKs to learn to stand on their own two feet, but once they learn that lesson and become more self-sufficient, Rusty's Dad isn't going to start funding them again. This will be it for the DIKs from now on; to operate like every other frat and sorority by supporting themselves rather than being supported by someone with deep pockets.

You do realize we are arguing the same point only you said Rusty got cut off and I say he didn't, right?