VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lightaces]

...means he won't do it again. Aside from the fact that a major character death doesn't really fit this game tonally, it would be repeating something that proved incredibly controversial when they did it before and, as the saying goes, "once bitten, twice shy".

Not a Joss Whedon fan, are you?

 

[mindern]

The difference between these two stories and their subject matter is that AL felt much more grounded in reality and this story, while grounded in certain places, is less grounded in other areas, such as what's going on with the HOTs. Again, it speaks to DPC's inspiration of those American comedy college movies because whilst the characters can portray very realistic traits and attributes, and the settings can also very realistic, the events and antics they get involved in are often farcical and/or contrived due to their outlandishness.

As such, when something seems less believable, like a sorority selling drugs and sex, you can more easily divorce yourself from the reality of it because it is less believable. AL, on the other hand, rings much more true to real life and there isn't much of anything within that story that feels particularly unrealistic, thus giving it a much more "heavy" feel than this story because it sets a very different tone.

But remember you’re comparing a finished story to an incomplete one. I agree with you the HoTs being drug dealers and pimps is outlandish. I’ve always had an issue with that plot point, but the whole Leah thing was hardly grounded in reality. No less outlandish than Quinn being a pimp. Actually break it down AL had a boatload of contrivances, but they were tied together by the story and characters. AL took a few dubious plot leaps and murky hand waving explanations, had them all blow up spectacularly in that twist and went forward off the back of how it's characters reacted to it. The actual plot leading up to the choice falls to the wayside and the story ends on how the characters handle it. BaDIK could easily follow suit.

We're currently sitting on half a story and all the heavy shit is yet to come. There's nothing stopping him from writing sincere, grounded reactions to whatever drama bomb is on its way. The tone is undeniably different this time but would it be any less heavy and grounded to see (and this isn't a plot prediction, it's an example of a traumatic event) Maya or Josy forced into prostitution? How they got there might be contrived but he could easily write a realistic reaction to such a revelation. As Stephen King put it.

“Pop culture writing is about ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances. Literature is about extraordinary people in ordinary circumstances.”

We've got our extraordinary situation, we've got our relatively ordinary people... we're just waiting to see how they react.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

i download the torrent 0.5.0, no patch to 05.1? need download all the 2gb patch?

I played the game with 5.0 without problems. (I play without minigames.) Only issue for me was a corrupted picture of the scavenger hunt list where the lines were in the wrong places.

The correct view of the list :



To upgrade from 5.0 to 5.1 you actually only need a few small files with the new script. See post #69,227

 

[Vibes2Good]

After looking at the changelog, i didnt feel like there really was a need to update to 5.1 unless ur nitpicky with the details.

In response to cloves8

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I played the game with 5.0 without problems. (I play without minigames.) Only issue for me was a corrupted picture of the scavenger hunt list where the lines were in the wrong places.

The correct view of the list :

View attachment 705093

To upgrade from 5.0 to 5.1 you actually only need a few small files with the new script. See post #69,227

Is it bad if I want to see the Arieth part?

 

[murphy88]

Sólo una pregunta entonces. ¿Cómo tradujiste el tutorial fuera del archivo tl?
Para la traducción al frances, tuve que traducir directamente en el principal script.rpy.

De que tutorial hablas exactamente? yo me he encargado de todo el grueso de los dialogos (update5.rpy y todos los freeroam), uno de los admins de erospanish iba a hacer las actualizaciones de todo lo del movil y todo lo demas ya viene de actualizaciones posteriores (muchas cosas han pasado de imagenes a scripts o al propio dialogo como el tutorial del juego de pintar que ahora esta en el propio update5,rpy en vez de en imagen o script), basicamente he continuado el trabajo que ellos empezaron ya que iban un poco atrasados en being a dik por un proyecto personal que tienen ellos en desarrollo, pero yo he hecho el grueso de la traduccion, las cosas sueltas como dialogos de rooster o swyper o alguna cosa añadida de este capitulo lo hace otra persona, si al compilar el parche veo que se han dejado algo ya avise de que iria generando actualizaciones, algunas partes de capitulos anteriores tienen errores propias de la traduccion semiautomatica, y yo la he hecho 100% manual, me gustaria ir repasando capitulos anteriores para solventar eso tambien.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Is it bad if I want to see the Arieth part?

I don't know what the Arieth path is.
I played 100% (all scenes, all rewards) with 5.0 without problems except for the corrupt view of the list (which is only optical and does not affect gameplay.)

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

I don't know what the Arieth path is.
I played 100% (all scenes, all rewards) with 5.0 without problems except for the corrupt view of the list (which is only optical and does not affect gameplay.)

No he just wanted to see Maya and Josy ask Arieth about who had the best dick on campus. It's wishful thinking, the scene doesn't exist.

 

[Noor Oneal]

I really love this game and dont want to sound impatience because i loved the last episode but is it always gonna be like 5 months in between episodes and if so how long will it go on for because i dont want the story to stop

While the episodes does take quite long to update it's not 5 months. It all depends on the doners and the supporters.
Games not new, Many if not all people know about this game. Its gonna be a bit faster. id say about a max of 3 months each.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

While the episodes does take quite long to update it's not 5 months. It all depends on the doners and the supporters.
Games not new, Many if not all people know about this game. Its gonna be a bit faster. id say about a max of 3 months each.

Has nothing to do with it. DPC is creating this game all by himself. Donors and supporters can kick in financially. However, the bottleneck is renders and animations and how fast DPC can program.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Is it bad if I want to see the Arieth part?

I don't know what the Arieth path is.
I played 100% (all scenes, all rewards) with 5.0 without problems except for the corrupt view of the list (which is only optical and does not affect gameplay.)

You might likely to get to see it in the future if you confide in Sage about Arieth's crabs? I wonder how that action will affect:
1) Sage's trust towards MC
2) DIKs' trust towards MC

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

You might likely to get to see it in the future if you confide in Sage about Arieth's crabs? I wonder how that action will affect:
1) Sage's trust towards MC
2) DIKs' trust towards MC

I forget which HOT mentions it but the DIK's having crabs is already known. One of them mentions finding the medication for it during one of the parties. Might not be that big of an impact.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I forget which HOT mentions it but the DIK's having crabs is already known. One of them mentions finding the medication for it during one of the parties. Might not be that big of an impact.

Sarah told Heather and Melanie in the hot tub in Episode 5. Since DPC put that option there, makes me wonder if he put that as a decision placeholder for future use, if he decides to make that decision matter. Jacob did ask MC to not spread the news, see how he reacted to Derek's comment in Sage's movie night cluck in Rooster.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Sarah told Heather and Melanie in the hot tub in Episode 5. Since DPC put that option there, makes me wonder if he put that as a decision placeholder for future use, if he decides to make that decision matter. Jacob did ask MC to not spread the news, see how he reacted to Derek's comment in Sage's movie night cluck in Rooster.

I knew I remembered seeing it somewhere. Oh well if it becomes an issue I know I can always go back and redo it to change a variable. Won't be the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last.

 

[ename144]

But remember you’re comparing a finished story to an incomplete one. I agree with you the HoTs being drug dealers and pimps is outlandish. I’ve always had an issue with that plot point, but the whole Leah thing was hardly grounded in reality. No less outlandish than Quinn being a pimp. Actually break it down AL had a boatload of contrivances, but they were tied together by the story and characters. AL took a few dubious plot leaps and murky hand waving explanations, had them all blow up spectacularly in that twist and went forward off the back of how it's characters reacted to it. The actual plot leading up to the choice falls to the wayside and the story ends on how the characters handle it. BaDIK could easily follow suit.

We're currently sitting on half a story and all the heavy shit is yet to come. There's nothing stopping him from writing sincere, grounded reactions to whatever drama bomb is on its way. The tone is undeniably different this time but would it be any less heavy and grounded to see (and this isn't a plot prediction, it's an example of a traumatic event) Maya or Josy forced into prostitution? How they got there might be contrived but he could easily write a realistic reaction to such a revelation. As Stephen King put it.

“Pop culture writing is about ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances. Literature is about extraordinary people in ordinary circumstances.”

We've got our extraordinary situation, we've got our relatively ordinary people... we're just waiting to see how they react.

I would be somewhat surprised by your particular example (outside of a "bad" ending for the two), but I agree with your overall point.

Leah being a serial killer in AL (as opposed to a more mundane obsessive crush) isn't particularly well foreshadowed, and it completely dominates the last quarter of the game. The idea that something really bad couldn't pop out of the woodwork 3-4 episodes from now is just not consistent with how DPC has worked as a writer.

Even if we assume DPC isn't going to kill any of the LIs this time (and simply killing one would still be much less extreme than what happened in AL), there are plenty of bad things that could happen. The simplest is that the LIs will eventually each face a major crisis simultaneously, and the MC will only be able to help one of them through it (maybe Maya and Josy as a combo if DPC truly is feeling sorry for AL).

The other girls will survive, but as scarred survivors who never quite get their lives back on track. Maya is forced to live the life her father expected of her. Bella becomes a reclusive old maid. Josy becomes a jaded dancer at the Pink Rose. Jill settles for marrying Tybalt and being effectively a trophy wife. Sage is caught up in Quinn's drug scandal and spends several years in prison. All of those would be far less tonally jarring than AL's finale was, yet would still seriously suck to play through.

That's what I worry about. I like all of the LIs. Hell, I like most of the characters in this game. I want to see them all get happy ending (or learn the error of their ways for the antagonists), and I remain hopeful that is what will happen. But I absolutely don't think we can take that for granted.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I would be somewhat surprised by your particular example (outside of a "bad" ending for the two), but I agree with your overall point.

Leah being a serial killer in AL (as opposed to a more mundane obsessive crush) isn't particularly well foreshadowed, and it completely dominates the last quarter of the game. The idea that something really bad couldn't pop out of the woodwork 3-4 episodes from now is just not consistent with how DPC has worked as a writer.

Even if we assume DPC isn't going to kill any of the LIs this time (and simply killing one would still be much less extreme than what happened in AL), there are plenty of bad things that could happen. The simplest is that the LIs will eventually each face a major crisis simultaneously, and the MC will only be able to help one of them through it (maybe Maya and Josy as a combo if DPC truly is feeling sorry for AL).

The other girls will survive, but as scarred survivors who never quite get their lives back on track. Maya is forced to live the life her father expected of her. Bella becomes a reclusive old maid. Josy becomes a jaded dancer at the Pink Rose. Jill settles for marrying Tybalt and being effectively a trophy wife. Sage is caught up in Quinn's drug scandal and spends several years in prison. All of those would be far less tonally jarring than AL's finale was, yet would still seriously suck to play through.

That's what I worry about. I like all of the Lis. Hell, I like most of the characters in this game. I want to see them all get happy ending (or learn the error of their ways for the antagonists), and I remain hopeful that is what will happen. But I absolutely don't think we can take that for granted.

If there is no route where all of them gets a happy ending, then I wish DPC provides me as option to go on a killing spree.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

You might likely to get to see it in the future if you confide in Sage about Arieth's crabs? I wonder how that action will affect:
1) Sage's trust towards MC
2) DIKs' trust towards MC

Sage could bring it up without selling the DIKs, though.

I forget which HOT mentions it but the DIK's having crabs is already known. One of them mentions finding the medication for it during one of the parties. Might not be that big of an impact.

What if it's not Arieth? Maybe there's some other common girl they (or we) don't know yet. Crabs only live in people with pubic hair, which excludes 90% of the people we know.

Arieth we want to see your bush .

 

[ToastyOats]

Anyone got an Isabella focused save they could share?

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

What if it's not Arieth? Maybe there's some other common girl they (or we) don't know yet. Crabs only live in people with pubic hair, which excludes 90% of the people we know.

Danielle? An exchange of tadpoles and crustaceans, end results being parasites.

 

[Yuno Gasai]

idk why everybody is arguing about DPC's fav girl
i thought we all knew damn well that

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