VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

And people writing essays about how she's right about everything she does or is excused in some way or another, isn't that also blowing things out of proportions?

Defending her actions is different from absolving her of her actions. It's not about saying that everything she did was "right", because it wasn't, it's about understanding her as a character, empathising with her situation, and understanding how she could have made those mistakes. When you do that with an open-mind and open-heart, you can see that her actions didn't come from a bad place, she wasn't being deliberately deceitful, and that her actions, though misguided, are forgivable.

You can forgive and still want a relationship with her, you can forgive her and not want a relationship with her, you can forgive her and want to be close friends, and you can forgive and not want to be close friends, but it's the people that can't forgive her no matter what that are the problem because to do so lacks empathy and compassion.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Because those 3 have the biggest tits, and big boobed girls always beat girls with smaller boobs, that's why they were more popular at the beginning. Now M&J have the most drama-filled story and the others don't, their stories are simpler, and having less baggage makes them more appealing because most guys can't deal with too much of that.

So it's not like M&J aren't popular because they're terrible characters, it's because they first had a physical disadvantage and now have a story disadvantage.

Idk that one bro, Maya and Jill have almost identical breast sizes to me

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

we probably didn't read the same topic. . over a year now we have the same Ma and J drama over and over and over again. and when its come to Jill. Jill is the best girl, period. and Quinn is deep down a good girl, and i cant wait teh MC end up with her make her main girl etc.
in Jill case it's easy to see why, she is indeed the most problem free, and she has the cute and innocent shy attitude, so much that people assume she is virgin

We probably haven't read the same topic, yeah. After episode 3 noone liked Quinn (well, one person) and after episode 4 people grew more sympathetic towards her but still she's not very liked. And for Jill she's been criticized for doing that, that she should have respected the MC's opinion and that's she's probably very opinionated and stubborn. She can still be innocent and shy, though. Those aren't mutually exclusive. Her being a virgin doesn't have much to do with anything, though.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

TBF some people read too much into what is a game and make it into real life situations

But how we look at these things and the views we express does reveal how we view the world, even if the subject matter is fictional. So even though it's not real life we're talking about, it might as well be if this is how we all see certain things.

Idk that one bro, Maya and Jill have almost identical breast sizes to me

But still smaller than Sage, Jill, and Bella. Big boobs are popular, that's why you never see a VN with only flat-chested or even B-cup girls and why the LIs with the biggest chests are always the most popular.

 

[michael1984]

Lets be fair for a minute the characters that get hate

1 Jill for snitching people got mad af
2 Sage for basicly being a fuck buddy leading u on while she with Chad
3 Bella for having that weird situation
4 Maya and Josy with their bs
5 Quinn with her drug and prostitute ring

Every girl has their heat from the fans ... But most people just like the character and model of Jill the most

Josy is more like a vanilla character ur basic next door neighbour chick

Maya well feels pretty basic too for a lesbian chick

 

[Dashxp4k]

Spoiler: Mmm.. boobies

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You got my ass

 

[Phynix]

Defending her actions is different from absolving her of her actions. It's not about saying that everything she did was "right", because it wasn't, it's about understanding her as a character, empathising with her situation, and understanding how she could have made those mistakes. When you do that with an open-mind and open-heart, you can see that her actions didn't come from a bad place, she wasn't being deliberately deceitful, and that her actions, though misguided, are forgivable.

You can forgive and still want a relationship with her, you can forgive her and not want a relationship with her, you can forgive her and want to be close friends, and you can forgive and not want to be close friends, but it's the people that can't forgive her no matter what that are the problem because to do so lacks empathy and compassion.

Yes, and i understand what you are saying. I might be in the minority with this but M&J "drama" didn't change my opinion of them at all. I made up my mind about them within the first 1-2 episodes and when the big reveal and the follow-up happened, i didn't care. I wasn't interested in them from the beginning. However i don't feel the need to tell other people daily that they shouldn't be interested in them either, get what i'm saying? If you want to keep on doing what you are doing, then all the power to you, but don't get overzealous when people don't agree with you.

 

[rogokin]

Maya and Josy are great. love there story and both are beautiful hope there is a way for it to work out for the MC and them.

 

[Lightaces]

if you think about it, it is a pretty fucking awesome twist, it is a fucked up, situation, a life fucked you over moment.

How did life fuck you over? The two girls you’re into are both not only into you, they are into each other! Most men have wet dreams about exactly that situation. Probably why this is the second time DPC has written about it in a porn game. Life didn’t fuck you over, it won you a fucking lottery!!!

 

[Dashxp4k]

Idk that one bro, Maya and Jill have almost identical breast sizes to me

I'm ass man but Jill boobs a perfect for he body

Spoiler: Jill ass and boobs

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[Tserriednich'sNen]

3 Bella for having that weird situation

lmao

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yes, and i understand what you are saying. I might be in the minority with this but M&J "drama" didn't change my opinion of them at all. I made up my mind about them within the first 1-2 episodes and when the big reveal and the follow-up happened, i didn't care. I wasn't interested in them from the beginning. However i don't feel the need to tell other people daily that they shouldn't be interested in them either, get what i'm saying? If you want to keep on doing what you are doing, then all the power to you, but don't get overzealous when people don't agree with you.

If you didn't like them from the beginning, fine, I have no problem with that. To each their own, as they say.

My issue is, and has always been, with people who treat these girls like they're devil-spawn just because of a few omissions about themselves. It may only be a game and some people may just be being deliberately outlandish in their comments, but I have seen some very harsh, cruel, and violent things said about them just because of this one thing and to me, it speaks to how these people would view such a thing in real life and I find some of their views callous and heartless.

So these comments of mine aren't directed at you or anyone who had no interest in these characters and are largely indifferent towards them, but rather to anyone who would think that the actions shown by M&J warrant people like that being treated like dirt and/or physically harmed in some way, because I take issue with such a lack of compassion.

 

[Qmil679]

You got my ass

Spoiler: Yes i got You

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[CAznable]

But still smaller than Sage, Jill, and Bella. Big boobs are popular, that's why you never see a VN with only flat-chested or even B-cup girls and why the LIs with the biggest chests are always the most popular.

That's not true, Look at another DPC game, Acting Lessons. Melissa's breasts were smaller than Megan's and Melissa was by far the more popular of the two.

 

[Qmil679]

I'm ass man but Jill boobs a perfect for he body

Spoiler: Jill ass and boobs

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Jill the best <3 goddess

 

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oh man i missed this, lily is such a tease. little minx

 

[Mormont]

Yes, and i understand what you are saying. I might be in the minority with this but M&J "drama" didn't change my opinion of them at all. I made up my mind about them within the first 1-2 episodes and when the big reveal and the follow-up happened, i didn't care. I wasn't interested in them from the beginning. However i don't feel the need to tell other people daily that they shouldn't be interested in them either, get what i'm saying? If you want to keep on doing what you are doing, then all the power to you, but don't get overzealous when people don't agree with you.

The real Maya and Josy fans don't put up too much of a stink about it they know their story hasn't exactly been an easy ride by any means you'll get people like this squirming making it a bigger deal than it actually is.

 

[Phynix]

If you didn't like them from the beginning, fine, I have no problem with that. To each their own, as they say.

My issue is, and has always been, with people who treat these girls like they're devil-spawn just because of a few omissions about themselves. It may only be a game and some people may just be being deliberately outlandish in their comments, but I have seen some very harsh, cruel, and violent things said about them just because of this one thing and to me, it speaks to how these people would view such a thing in real life and I find some of their views callous and heartless.

So these comments of mine aren't directed at you or anyone who had no interest in these characters and are largely indifferent towards them, but rather to anyone who would think that the actions shown by M&J warrant people like that being treated like dirt and/or physically harmed in some way, because I take issue with such a lack of compassion.

Now i'm starting to correct you because this isn't the first time you've done this. I don't dislike them, i'm not interested, pretty big difference.

 

[Qmil679]

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That moment..

 

[Esp``]

It wasn't the drama that made people dislike M&J but the lies, half truths (which can arguably be worse than lies) and hypocrisy that made people lose interest in them my self included. I guarantee you no one is gonna care about their favorite girl's drama as long as DPC doesn't pull another M&J on their route.

Maya making MC promise to be 100% honest with her when she herself knew she wouldn't do the same in return.

They hated him.. Because he spoke the truth..

It's insane how people ignoring simple situation. MC and Maya are attracted to each other. MC flirts and wants do have something real with Maya. Maya says you have to be real honest and commitment and I'm like tender etc while she is keeping the secret of having a fucking partner.

When that partner enters to the room and it is someone you know and also she is someone special to you. It's like impossible to be not shocked. I'm gonna quote myself from the past when pain was still fresh;

Definitely, I cannot understand who says MC is overreacting.. I mean Maya and Josy are the two Love Interests which was introduced at the earliest in the story. You have to take the story into progress, season 1 went by MC being romantically involved in these two girls. Add to that he is a teenager which did have very intimate moments with both of them. You might be thinking clearly and saying "just ignore them lol why cry", it does make sense to MC feel like this in the story.

I feel like people needs to empathize with MC more. He felt something for Josy, learned she had a partner but still she clung onto him. Then he met Maya, which was a like a friendly relationship which became something more later on both living in the same room.. Until someone else came to that room and secrets revealed. I honestly felt sad for the MC most of the time. Most people say he is not faultless or similar stuff, but you don't think like that in a moment of pain..

I even wished he had a harsher option to choose at the end of the library dialogue.

Thats was the times when I was a Maya fan.. I remember a lot of us departed the Mayan ship and exiled into cold harsh world.. Still flabbergasted some think its okay to hide that you are in a relationship.

I got a lot of heat for puttin Maya into the bottom of my tier list, titled "A wound that will hurt forever"..