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Hear hear! This guy gets it, follow his teachings and avoid needless trouble
You go your way, I'll go mineA pair of HOTs grown and flowered await
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- Sep 20, 2018
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No, they are from the scene where the MC follows Josy in Episode 5 (if he is on the friendship path). They are a flashback to the events of Episode 4.I would not say as a "retcon" at all. Because those images, are form the "Previously on BADIK" Segments. but i'm sure you all know this.
That is the original scene from Episode 4, and it will play any time the MC fails to start the three-way relationship (CHICK or DIK, regardless of why the girls turned him down, or even if he turned them down himself).
This follow-up image in the Episode 5 flashback with Josy will likewise happen anytime the MC was rejected regardless of why that was (assuming he went to see Josy's dad with her, of course). The dialog around it changes very slightly, but the render does not.
- Dec 13, 2018
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It honestly feels like a retcon because we all know from the ep 4 rejection that they were sucking face when he left but then in the brief ep 5 "flashback" when he and Josy are talking, they're now not making out behind his back. Like, why do that when we know that's not what happened? It's an inconsistency likely intended to placate those that were pissed off by that kiss (which was just about everyone), but without actually changing what happened in ep 4, it still doesn't make it any better.
That happens when the MC is rejected or if he chooses to stay friends. If he goes for "something more" they still kiss, but only after they've each kissed the MC.
The "corrected" version from that brief ep 5 flashback is for the rejected/friends route when the MC talks to Josy. So DPC has tried to a little rewrite of history here, but they should do the same with ep 4 for consistency's sake.
- Oct 24, 2018
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It's my own fault for not being clearer, I should have explained that my invocation of Skyrim was strictly limited to the blank slate MC and that no further implications should be inferred (should've learned for the whole Cercei thing I did a while back
)I personally have a problem with the whole illusion of choice thing because that seems to imply that, if the MC doesn't have a huge amount of control over events, they're essentially on rails. I disagree with this as I believe that controlling the MC's perception (and by extention, the perception of NPCs) is equally valid in most cases and, in the case of a visual novel, superior.
Due to my well established laziness I'm not going to go back and confirm the context of those images but it seems entirely reasonable that, in the first case, we, the players were seeing what actually happened whereas, in the second case, we were seeing what the MC knew to have happened which, since his back was turned, is less than we knew.
I eagerly await the screenshots that show I'm wrong
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Yeah, he should and he should also patch the Steam version with it too. The fact that they did that does make it feel like they heard all the complaints and showed a different version of that event so as to not show that controversial moment again. Unless this was right before the kiss, but that doesn't seem to work either because the distance the MC is from them in the ep 5 render is the same as in the ep 4 render, so it certainly has the feel of a retcon.
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I'm not disagreeing it changes the context of the original scene. I'm just saying it's possible DPC always intended to make it seem like the three had moved on in that moment only to later reveal that there were still a lot of lingering feelings. It's the sort of thing I could see him doing intentionally, even if I don't think it's likely in this case.
Either way, it's clear he decided to emphasize the change in Episode 5. That implies that either the change is indeed a retcon, or that the original scene was being widely misinterpreted and the future revelations needed to happen ASAP.
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So you're saying that we saw in ep 4 was what he thought was happening behind him?Due to my well established laziness I'm not going to go back and confirm the context of those images but it seems entirely reasonable that, in the first case, we, the players were seeing what actually happened whereas, in the second case, we were seeing what the MC knew to have happened which, since his back was turned, is less than we knew.
I eagerly await the screenshots that show I'm wrong
That's even worse because it would means he thinks very little of them if he assumed they'd just start making out after they dumped him or he dumped them.
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- Oct 24, 2018
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That's exactly the opposite of what I saidSo you're saying that we saw in ep 4 was what he thought was happening behind him?
Again, depends on you're defining on rails. Those of us who've used scrappy's mod (which I only use of second playthroughs for the record) know that there are times in which the MC's Affinity/Status affect the interactions with the LIs, meaning that on a Chick playthrough an answer might be neutral whereas, on a Dik playthrough the exact same answer would result in RP-1
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Couldn't it be that the MC turned around and started walking away, Maya and Josy kissed briefly, and then then turned and followed him... meaning both scenes happened (the original and then the 'flashback version')? It may be a stretch, but we're only seeing a series of still scenes much like panels in a comic, not a continuous movie of what happens, so the flashback version could have happened between the original 'panels'. It'd still be a bit of a retcon in that regard, but not a plot hole or contradiction, per se.So you're saying that we saw in ep 4 was what he thought was happening behind him?
Wouldn't be NTR, as NTR involves mind breaking, drugging, and corruption.
Not even cuckolding, as MC and Sage aren't "officially" dating, let alone exclusive.
- Oct 24, 2018
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https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/
Please check F95zone's accepted definitions of tags rather inserting your own, which, btw, would not be recognised by most fans of NTR.
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NTR doesn't have to involve any of those things. For example, in one other popular game there's an 'NTR' tag because if you ignore the MC's girlfriend for too long, she goes off and fucks another guy.
- Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
- Corruption [Corrupting someone's mind robbing them of their purity/innocence.]
- Oct 24, 2018
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Only from time travelers, such as myself, but we are strictly forbidden from revealing information about the future
- Aug 4, 2019
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Yes and No. The same way you could end up with either Derek, or Sage or Bella at end of ep 3, The same way your endgame could be, and most likely will be different based on your play style. and Remember, only Derek available on each playstyle. for Sage, and Bella, you have to play the way it needed to open those options. I for example, when I realized I don't care about Bella, I played in a way where I dont give a shit about her, and She is locked for me, not only that some other conversation and events are locked with her.
our choices do Matter and have consequences, - even if some of them are limited, it is not sandbox nor an RPG - The whole conversation was about that WE Don't want to lose the possibility of having choices, but along the line we twisted it into something else
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