Holy Bacchus

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you are right, but there is no trace of this love in the game, we can assume, but there are no clues in this direction
Well, I've known people who talk all sorts of shit about their relatives. One particular friend moaned constantly about their brother and I actually said to them, "You really do hate you brother", to which they said, "Nah, they're just annoying, but I still love 'em".

Just because they don't make it obvious, doesn't mean it isn't there. The fact that she won't stand up to him could be the subtle hint that she loves him because she's hoping she can make him come around to the idea of her and Josy and this is something quite common in the LGBT community where people whose parents disowned them for their lifestyle still love their parents and hope to one day reconcile.

sorry but we are not talking about a communication problem but about two girls pretending not to see what happens in front of their eyes

each of them knows that the other has betrayed her, but, out of guilt, they pretend nothing has happened until MC explains it to them blatantly, and at that point they forgive each other (but eventually do not forgive MC)

in my opinion they are a couple that makes no sense to exist, but resists everything because it serves the plot, when it no longer needs it it will take a moment to make it collapse.
Josy believes Maya to be 100% gay, so her assuming that something happened between the MC and Maya seems like a bit of stretch and we even see that she is shocked to find this out in ep 4. The air of guilt and awkwardness each of them has could simply be interpreted by each of them as having to do with the vicious back-and-forth messaging and the general issues they've been having because they kind of just swept it under the rug at the start of ep 4 and didn't properly address things.

Also, with the MC acting cold towards both of them, they each are viewing it as coldness towards themselves and not the other person, therefore it's easy to not recognise that awkwardness in another when you're feeling it so much yourself. People experiencing heightened emotional states can suffer from what's called "social-emotional agnosia" which is basically an inability to recognise non-verbal cues in other people that show their emotional state, and this could be what's happening here. For example, when a person is experiencing extreme grief, they may not recognise when someone else is also feeling it just the same or more then them because they're so focused on how they themselves are feeling that they can't see it in others.
 
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Holy Bacchus

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Download the 0.5.0 in the OP (Torrent link) it will work fine with the patch
For me to update with Patch I have to download which version of the Game? Someone help me?
I just downloaded the torrent linked in the OP to check it out and even though it says "0.5.0" in the OP, it is actually the 0.5.2 version and it too is also unpacked. This means that all links in the OP are for unpacked versions of the game, so anyone who has downloaded these will not be able to use the patch and will have to download the full of version of 0.6.0 when it's released.

Anyone with version 0.5.0 or 0.5.1 and who haven't unpacked or modded them will be able to use the patch.
 

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I just downloaded the torrent linked in the OP to check it out and even though it says "0.5.0" in the OP, it is actually the 0.5.2 version and it too is also unpacked. This means that all links in the OP are for unpacked versions of the game, so anyone who has downloaded these will not be able to use the patch and will have to download the full of version of 0.6.0 when it's released.

Anyone with version 0.5.0 or 0.5.1 and who haven't unpacked or modded them will be able to use the patch.
What is OP?
 

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Josy believes Maya to be 100% gay, so her assuming that something happened between the MC and Maya seems like a bit of stretch and we even see that she is shocked to find this out in ep 4. The air of guilt and awkwardness each of them has could simply be interpreted by each of them as having to do with the vicious back-and-forth messaging and the general issues they've been having because they kind of just swept it under the rug at the start of ep 4 and didn't properly address things.

Also, with the MC acting cold towards both of them, they each are viewing it as coldness towards themselves and not the other person, therefore it's easy to not recognise that awkwardness in another when you're feeling it so much yourself. People experiencing heightened emotional states can suffer from what's called "social-emotional agnosia" which is basically an inability to recognise non-verbal cues in other people that show their emotional state, and this could be what's happening here. For example, when a person is experiencing extreme grief, they may not recognise when someone else is also feeling it just the same or more then them because they're so focused on how they themselves are feeling that they can't see it in others.
do you see how many justifications, how many excuses, you have to give to make the episode credible?

they are justifications, even credible, that you have to imagine yourself, but that are not in the game.

all these justifications give the picture of two girls who do not know each other at all (after all they went on a camping trip together, after which we do not know ...) who have many more experiences and characteristics to separate them than to keep them together. two girls who even stay in the same room for 24 hours a day don't communicate with each other.

then I also agree with you, yours "forced" reconstruction is credible. but for me the point is that the couple need to resist and that's why they resist
 
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Holy Bacchus

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What is OP?
"Original Post", in this case referring to the very first post of this thread.

do you see how many justifications, how many excuses, you have to give to make the episode credible?

they are justifications, even credible, that you have to imagine yourself, but that are not in the game.

all these justifications give the picture of two girls who do not know each other at all (after all they went on a camping trip together, after which we do not know ...) who have many more experiences and characteristics to separate them than to keep them together. two girls who even stay in the same room for 24 hours a day communicate with each other.

then I also agree with you, yours is a "forced" reconstruction is credible. but for me the point is that the couple need to resist and that's why they resist
Of course, there are going to be forced elements in stories like this, as well as big gaping holes in the story where not everything is explained in detail, but that's what leads to all this speculation and it's what I love most about this game.

I enjoy the analytical aspect of this game, to assess the characters based on what we see and to ascribe meaning behind their words and actions. It certainly can be considered "imagining" things about them that may not necessarily be true to try and make sense of it all, but that's fun for me. :giggle:
 

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"Original Post", in this case referring to the very first post of this thread.



Of course, there are going to be forced elements in stories like this, as well as big gaping holes in the story where not everything is explained in detail, but that's what leads to all this speculation and it's what I love most about this game.

I enjoy the analytical aspect of this game, to assess the characters based on what we see and to ascribe meaning behind their words and actions. It certainly can be considered "imagining" things about them that may not necessarily be true to try and make sense of it all, but that's fun for me. :giggle:
and on this I have always been in full agreement with you.

but what comes out is the portrait of a couple who, when they should finally get closer, have the aim of explaining, justifying themselves, with their "lover", while between them they continue not to face their betrayal.

this is a very, very fragile couple, isn't it? a couple with a very short history, who betray at the first opportunity and who do not even have the strength to face this betrayal.

on the other hand, when they are confronted with their mutual betrayal, the two girls overcome everything, practically using a plot armor for sentimental problems ...

this sense of fragility is what then emerges during the picnic, each of them does not know if the other would really choose her in the end.

they are a couple waiting for their role to end
 

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for everyone asking

patreon version and modded version dont work together

1.Download either version v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0 or v0.5.1
2. dont donwload version 0.5.2 and patch it with v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0 v0.5.1 because the game (the saves) will not work properly because 0.5.2 in the op is a MODDED non patreon version
3. follow the steps on the 1 page and everything will work nicely
 

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and on this I have always been in full agreement with you.

but what comes out is the portrait of a couple who, when they should finally get closer, have the aim of explaining, justifying themselves, with their "lover", while between them they continue not to face their betrayal.

this is a very, very fragile couple, isn't it? a couple with a very short history, who betray at the first opportunity and who do not even have the strength to face this betrayal.

on the other hand, when they are confronted with their mutual betrayal, the two girls overcome everything, practically using a plot armor for sentimental problems ...

this sense of fragility is what then emerges during the picnic, each of them does not know if the other would really choose her in the end.

they are a couple waiting for their role to end
I feel like this is best summed up by a great Dr Cox quote from Scrubs:

"Relationships don't work the way they do on television and in the movies. Will they, won't they, and then they finally do and they're happy forever... gimme a break. Nine out of ten of them end because they weren't right for each other to begin with and half the ones who get married get divorced anyway, and I'm telling you right now through all the stuff I have not become a cynic, I haven't. Yes, I do happen to believe love is mainly about pushing chocolate covered candies, and, you know, in some cultures, a chicken. You can call me a sucker, I don't care, because I do believe in it. Bottom line is, couples who are truly right for each other wade through the same crap as everybody else, but the big difference is they don't let it take them down. One of those two people will stand up and fight for that relationship every time if it's right and they're real lucky. One of them will say something."

Their relationship is no more fragile than anybody elses, but what matters is how they deal with that. Will they let it shatter or will they fight for it? And if they fight for it, will it work? Because, at the end of the day, if they want it to work, then it can work, but they've got to be willing to put in the effort and that's what's being tested right now.
 

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Hmm won't the new features in the new update mess up our saved files once we integrate the new patch in the game. Had the same problem before with the other games, the new patch could make old saves unreadable thus prompting to start a new game. One example is how in every update Summertime saga would always require a new save to access the new new content.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Hmm won't the new features in the new update mess up our saved files once we integrate the new patch in the game. Had the same problem before with the other games, the new patch could make old saves unreadable thus prompting to start a new game. One example is how in every update Summertime saga would always require a new save to access the new new content.
I am wondering that myself after seeing things like, "Added a fast travel system for free roam events" "Updated code for affinity and DIK status calculations", and "Fixed bad variable names, episode 1-5, overriding a python library". Would seem to suggest that older code has changed which might cause some issues, so I'll guess we just have to wait and see if it affects older saves.

If it does, I don't mind. I'm OK spending about half an hour skipping through all the seen text and setting up my saves again before jumping in to ep 6.
 

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for everyone asking

patreon version and modded version dont work together

1.Download either version v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0 or v0.5.1
2. dont donwload version 0.5.2 and patch it with v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0 v0.5.1 because the game (the saves) will not work properly because 0.5.2 in the op is a MODDED non patreon version
3. follow the steps on the 1 page and everything will work nicely
Is it possible to update to 0.5.2?
 

mamameolhando

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I am wondering that myself after seeing things like, "Added a fast travel system for free roam events" "Updated code for affinity and DIK status calculations", and "Fixed bad variable names, episode 1-5, overriding a python library". Would seem to suggest that older code has changed which might cause some issues, so I'll guess we just have to wait and see if it affects older saves.

If it does, I don't mind. I'm OK spending about half an hour skipping through all the seen text and setting up my saves again before jumping in to ep 6.
Relax, the fast travel only works on ep6 and eps that will come, status calculations are easy fix he did something similar in ep5 with the score against derek, now "fix bad variable names" that is concerning :unsure:
could be variables that we dont use? guess we'll have to wait
 

Macahan

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Is it possible to update to 0.5.2?
like i said NO because 0.5.2 is a Modded Version stay with the .0.5.1 and then update to 0.6 you can see which version you have if you start the game (down in the right corner)


if you play with a modded version already then you can use 0.5.2 if you want

read the first page note that read:

The patch will upgrade your game from v0.4.0/v0.4.1/v0.4.2 or v0.5.0 to v0.5.1.

NOTE! Patch only works with unmodified Patreon versions (v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0). Patch instructions are included in the .zip file.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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like i said NO because 0.5.2 is a Modded Version stay with the .0.5.1 and then update to 0.6 you can see which version you have if you start the game (down in the right corner)


if you play with a modded version already then you can use 0.5.2 if you want

read the first page note that read:

The patch will upgrade your game from v0.4.0/v0.4.1/v0.4.2 or v0.5.0 to v0.5.1.

NOTE! Patch only works with unmodified Patreon versions (v0.4.0, v0.4.1, v0.4.2, v0.5.0). Patch instructions are included in the .zip file.
There's always the detected mod error fix

Once downloaded rename this file into 1BadikCh.rpy and try placing it into the game folder
 

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What do you think, guys, about the idea that Sage was a prep in her first years of college? Jill mentiones that several female guests lived in the ANO mansion, we know that Sage comes from money, and this man-bun dude (who is probably her father) says he was under impression that his daughter would attend the party. Also that would explain Sage's answer to one of Tybalt's comments in Rooster.
 
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