Wizard_Shiryuu

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Agree with this wholeheartedly. From a character standpoint, there's no reason why the MC should be refusing Cathy without the player choosing to do so just because he's chosen to be with M&J. He can be fucking Sage, trying to fuck Jill and Bella, and have fucked Camila, Mona, Riona, Quinn, Nicole, and Sarah at this point, 2 of which he could have fucked at the Prep party just hours earlier, and there's no sign he's going to stop doing anything with them just because he's with M&J, so this makes no sense from a character and narrative standpoint.

The only reason most people have been able to prescribe to it is that Cathy and Jade are basically substitutes for M&J action on the DIK path, but even that seems odd because it assumes everybody on the DIK path would want that yet players can choose to reject them as easily as they can reject pretty much everybody else. So if people on the DIK path wanted M&J but didn't want Cathy and/or Jade, then it's not much of a compensation if they already rejected them.
Totally agree. If DPC didn't want us players to be on M&J and on Jade and/or Cathy at the same time he could have done it like in Jade's case. We know we can't get both because they are set at the same time, but Cathy left lots of confused people not knowing why they weren't allowed to see the whole scene because there wasn't a good reason to block it.
 

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If I understand correctly Cathy's scene is locked if you're on Maya&Josy path? What's the reason for this? Jade is obviously locked cause you stood her up but there's nothing there that would affect Cathy besides MC's morality I guess. So it still should be up for player to pick.
That is the case. If you get into a three-way relationship with the two, you will not get the opportunity for the Cathy scene. This "might" be a glitch but probably not. If it is, Doc will fix it in the next installment. For now, the only way to get Cathy and the Twain is the use the mod. The mod "fixes" that if you want it.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Totally agree. If DPC didn't want us players to be on M&J and on Jade and/or Cathy at the same time he could have done it like in Jade's case. We know we can't get both because they are set at the same time, but Cathy left lots of confused people not knowing why they weren't allowed to see the whole scene because there wasn't a good reason to block it.
And even with Jade it doesn't necessarily have to be over. It could easily be written that the MC gives her a convincing yet totally BS excuse why he couldn't make it and she gives him a 2nd chance. At the picnic scene, Maya's basically given him a free pass, so why wouldn't he want another crack at Jade? The players should get to decide what they want to do with Jade and with Cathy regardless of what other decision they made with another relationship.
 
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Did I say I thought Maya and Josy would be ok with MC banging all the girls at the party?
Nope, but you said Cathy's scene is locked because Maya could get mad.
If they could get mad because MC banged all the girls at the party, those choices shouldn't be possible either right?

That is the case. If you get into a three-way relationship with the two, you will not get the opportunity for the Cathy scene. This "might" be a glitch but probably not. If it is, Doc will fix it in the next installment. For now, the only way to get Cathy and the Twain is the use the mod. The mod "fixes" that if you want it.
Guessing that DPC didn't take an official stance on this matter then? If that's how he wanted it to be, I'm not betting on him 'fixing' it just cause some people found it to not make sense.
 

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That is the case. If you get into a three-way relationship with the two, you will not get the opportunity for the Cathy scene. This "might" be a glitch but probably not. If it is, Doc will fix it in the next installment. For now, the only way to get Cathy and the Twain is the use the mod. The mod "fixes" that if you want it.
It's in the walkthrough, so it's not a glitch, but it still doesn't make sense that he'd turn her down even after he could have fucked 4 different girls during the party, and gotten a BJ off of 1 or 3 others. If this is meant to represent a "morality" issue, then where was it earlier when he was humping his way through the party? :WaitWhat:
 
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Tuesday, and DPC remains silenced :( Last time he announced the release on a tuesday, I kinda hoped for some good news today, and having episode 6 this friday.
 

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And even with Jade it doesn't necessarily have to be over. It could easily be written that the MC gives her a convincing yet totally BS excuse why he couldn't make it and she gives him a 2nd chance. At the picnic scene, Maya's basically given him a free pass, so why wouldn't he want another crack at Jade? The players should get to decide what they want to do with Jade and with Cathy regardless of what other decision they made with another relationship.
Yeah, I used to think that it might not be over with Jade until the Cathy thing. Now I think it was deliberate to make them exclusive paths. We'll see next episode, I hope.
 
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It's in the walkthrough, so it's not a glitch, but it still doesn't make sense that he'd turn her down even after he could have fucked 4 different girls during the party, and gotten a BJ off of 1 or 3 others. If this is meant to represent a "morality" issue, then where was it earlier when he was humping his way through the party? :WaitWhat:
Oh yeah, if it's in an official walkthrough that's probably a donezo. He could still 'fix' it by adding a potential choice to pick up Cathy's (or Jade's) path later but it would make even less sense as a whole.
 

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Yeah, I used to think that it might not be over with Jade until the Cathy thing. Now I think it was deliberate to make them exclusive paths. We'll see next episode, I hope.
If there's a 2nd chance with Jade, as good as that would be, it would make the Cathy non-decision even more inexplicable.

Oh yeah, if it's in an official walkthrough that's probably a donezo. He could still 'fix' it by adding a potential choice to pick up Cathy's (or Jade's) path later but it would make even less sense as a whole.
The easiest fix would have been to just allow the Cathy choice on the M&J path when they did the 0.5.2 update, then in this next episode we get a chance to salvage the Jade situation. Unfortunately I think we're going to find out for sure that Jade is also blocked on the M&J path in Ep 6, which would then make it much harder to change.
 
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I think she'd feel as betrayed by Jade as MC felt by her and Josy, arguably with far more justification.
Sorry but I don't think she'd be justified to feel betrayed by MC fucking Jade. The fact that MC fucked Jade means he chose friendship route or got rejected by M&J, at that point they aren't a thing, he can freely fuck Jade. If anything it's a bit hypocritical if Maya felt betrayed by him when she rejected MC or is on friendship route. I'd understand if Maya felt betrayed by Jade since her gender studies teacher who is supposed to have morality fucked her student, but who can resist Jade?
 
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The easiest fix would have been to just allow the Cathy choice on the M&J path when they did the 0.5.2 update, then in this next episode we get a chance to salvage the Jade situation. Unfortunately I think we're going to find out for sure that Jade is also blocked on the M&J path in Ep 6, which would then make it much harder to change.
First we'd have to know if the dev actually knows that this concerns some people. I didn't find any way to contact him without being a patron and I'm not really feeling like going through like 1k of pages in this topic to look for answers.
 

lemonfreak

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Sorry but I don't think she'd be justified to feel betrayed by MC fucking Jade. The fact that MC fucked Jade means he chose friendship route or got rejected by M&J, at that point they aren't a thing, he can freely fuck Jade. If anything it's a bit hypocritical if Maya felt betrayed by him when she rejected MC or is on friendship route. I'd understand if Maya felt betrayed by Jade since her gender studies teacher who is supposed to have morality fucked her student, but who can resist Jade?
Read again, I didn't say she'd feel betrayed the MC ;)
 

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Do you guys/girls think there will be any new content for my girl Camila? :unsure:
Yep, but probably only a handful (heh) of scenes based on the previews. Camila gets more screen time than a lot of side girls, but never as much as a main girl. She and Riona were on the list of pet names from the beginning so that's one indicator they will be more involved in lewd scenes than non-listers.
 

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The only real conflict of love interests I'm waiting to unfold is between Jill and Bella. Bella seems fine with messing around with the MC even knowing that Jill likes him and even encouraging them together but how far is she willing to take it? And what would Jill's reaction be if she finds out that MC and Bella are messing around?
 

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The only real conflict of love interests I'm waiting to unfold is between Jill and Bella. Bella seems fine with messing around with the MC even knowing that Jill likes him and even encouraging them together but how far is she willing to take it? And what would Jill's reaction be if she finds out that MC and Bella are messing around?
Sister Wives
 

Holy Bacchus

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The only real conflict of love interests I'm waiting to unfold is between Jill and Bella. Bella seems fine with messing around with the MC even knowing that Jill likes him and even encouraging them together but how far is she willing to take it? And what would Jill's reaction be if she finds out that MC and Bella are messing around?
I get a heavy Megan/Melissa vibe from Jill and Bella, so I sometimes can't help but wonder if it will go down a similar route. :unsure:
 

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did Mr. DPC himself forgot that Josy is a LI too?
i feel like she's treated worse than Maya smh:FacePalm:
Josy got shafted hard really. Barely in the first 3 chapters because of the plot, you spend all of it thinking that she has a boyfriend that she is willing to cheat on with the first guy who smiles at her and when she finally arrives at the college its straight into Josy\Maya drama.
 
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