VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

It should be our interactions with these specific characters that should determine whether we go further with them, because that's more important than a stat check that can be contrary to the overall relationship these characters have.

but it isn't, and it has been always the case. 6 episode you know how the game works. right in the beginning you have to choose between Caty or Jade. You can't have it all in one run!!!!!. if it was just pure affinity system you will be bitchin anyway. "Why can't maya avilable wiht Dik affinity". "Why I cant Fuck Quinn as a Chick". etc etc etc
and if it's would be just relationship point hunting then everyone would just focus on that, max everything with everyone HAREM.

by certain path cross each other's or lock out each other ,DPC makes the game and a system easier for himself . that's why the library scene is a Crossroad, that was a turning point. ( since then I have dik affinity and Josy and Maya not dumped me yet, becasue I achived in that moment what I needed to put me on to this path.)
that decision put you into two different road

Just like in the DNG. If you seduce Quinn, or Moria if you insist . that decision put you in two different path, by fucking her you can't charm , Jill , Josy, and Maya. but you can every other side girl. See? Side girls vs Main girls.

certain Main girls are not locking each other out yet, but we are getting closer. ( like Bella vs J&M. I dont know. I'm not intrested in Bella, so she is not a treat, but I read something about it. )
But they start to lock out Side girls. at least , Jill, and J&M, are starting to lock out side girls. Envy, Jade, Quinn, Sarah.
and Sage is somewhere in the middle right now, She just broke up , She need time, and who know what will happen, I like her as a friend as a Fuck buddy , but may be she better as a more matured best friend type person.

 

[Antherak]

Some opinions about how i feel about the game as of now.

What scares me now is that most episodes are gonna be filler/side games filled as of now on, or else i cannot see this game get to 16 chapters. I can foresee logically 4 more real character development chapters before the game ends, mostly being 1 chapter focusing on finalizing 1 girl RP story with a side of the others. I also think the house minigame will last the next 2 chapters, and somehow will be recycled to something else (like continuing jobs for money, sending people to do diverse pranks/classes/events/stuff for stripers to fill bars for renders or rewards) to stretch chapter content.

Based on his other game, AL, and the pacing about how both game's stories unfold, i can see we are setting up the phases of locking LI's and getting the bad endings triggers. Everything you will do will either lock in your main LI, or screw everything up if you do anything with anyone else. You cannot have a fun game with 10 more chapters of monogamous drama stories, pursuing only 1 girl and ignoring every other, that would be very boring, as well as robbing you of a majority of content per chapter. The game was sold as a happy fun partying college setup. The more we go, the more it seems to fall in the everyone has issues that the only MC can fix even though the girls barely knows him (it has been what, 3 weeks since the start) and that we will only be able to fix one issue, the one of our main LI.

Another sign is the DIK/CHICK meter. That affinity bar is growing pretty short. There's no way to have any block left on one side even with 1 major choice per chapter if the goal is 16 chapters. That means either we get very little major choices going on or we will end up being forced into picking the opposing paths for choices. I also agree that too many choices are locked behind that system. Regardless of where you are, it should not be overriding girl triggers. It should only affect which girls you can end the game with and dialogue choices and options. For example, Sage would require you at DIK, Jill and Maya as a beta and the other 2 any side you want could make it happen.

I would have also liked minigames to have updates with every seasons. The brawler minigame is basically just dead on progression now. DPC could have for example added 1 box to each stats and changed opponents per seasons. There is not really any point, as a fighter with max stats, to fight a nerd with 2's everywhere. I enjoy most minigames. They add an extra feature compared to the majority of VN's that are just basically spamming the space bar until a choice (which is most often that not a useless pick between 2 replies with no story consequences) for hours until end game. I'd say the same for free roams. They break from the basics and provide interludes to interact with characters. The only complaint though would be to always have the arrows to change rooms visible. Having them hidden add nothing to the game. I spent a LOT of time figuring out WHERE that dam arrow was in the library to get to Sage.

I enjoyed a lot the DnG game, which i reloaded multiple times to get different results when i got the ice king ending on my second playthrough and figured out there was multiple paths, but i hope not to get another one. What i didn't like is that i feel it robbed the chapter of progress with the girls stories. It should have been in addition to the content, not BE the content of this chapter. I was disappointed that 75% of the scenes with the girl of all the chapters were basically dream scenes. The date with Jill should have been longer, same with helping Sage. I am very happy that both scenes led to the MC opening up and confiding his birthday emotions, which i have a feeling will end up being a major trigger to set you up as the main LI path for both those characters. My feelings also tell me that MC telling Maya's dad that they are engaged or a couple or whatever will setup that LI also, while breaking up the 3 ways.

Nothing make or break, but i wish DPC would scale down some models a bit. I can't help but wonder now how people like Jill, she's way too thicc and deformed. I never thought she was THAT big. When i saw her in the library next to Josy, i was like, holy F, she was like 5 inches taller and 80 pounds heftier, doesn't she do yoga like 3 times a week? xD Same with Isabella's butt-shot on the bicycle, that was way too much haha. Also for the Quinn's speculation of relationships, i wouldn't delve too much into that. DPC listed her as a side character on his official walkthrough, so she probably will have nothing much than random scenes. I would like a possibility ending, even if it's only the same small lesser ending, which would insert the side girl of your choice, based on you not getting on with any of the main LI's but going after that side chick repeatedly. Now i feel like i have to restart a save game for each girl and a man-slut save to be ready for the next update hahaha.

 

[StingerWolf]

well that is the problem . MC look at the photo of Jill, and the Bar content end there. reload and pick sage, than the Bar content will be extended, and you will have a drinking mini game with Envy and her friend and a threesome sex if you want.

Nope, no luck. I did the Sage path, and the scene after "look closer" was cut short after the bartender asked me what I would like to drink. The walkthrough says I need to swipe Nicole on Swiper in Chapter 5 to get the scene, but damn, that has been a while...I guess I am skiping this one.

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[Jaydom666]

Is this available on Android?

 

[ladc]

it says 10gb so i assume it will be from the first right?

Yup, thats the one

 

[moskyx]

but it isn't, and it has been always the case. 6 episode you know how the game works. right in the beginning you have to choose between Caty or Jade. You can't have it all in one run!!!!!. if it was just pure affinity system you will be bitchin anyway. "Why can't maya avilable wiht Dik affinity". "Why I cant Fuck Quinn as a Chick". etc etc etc
and if it's would be just relationship point hunting then everyone would just focus on that, max everything with everyone HAREM.

by certain path cross each other's or lock out each other ,DPC makes the game and a system easier for himself . that's why the library scene is a Crossroad, that was a turning point. ( since then I have dik affinity and Josy and Maya not dumped me yet, becasue I achived in that moment what I needed to put me on to this path.)
that decision put you into two different road

Just like in the DNG. If you seduce Quinn, or Moria if you insist . that decision put you in two different path, by fucking her you can't charm , Jill , Josy, and Maya. but you can every other side girl. See? Side girls vs Main girls.

certain Main girls are not locking each other out yet, but we are getting closer. ( like Bella vs J&M. I dont know. I'm not intrested in Bella, so she is not a treat, but I read something about it. )
But they start to lock out Side girls. at least , Jill, and J&M, are starting to lock out side girls. Envy, Jade, Quinn, Sarah.
and Sage is somewhere in the middle right now, She just broke up , She need time, and who know what will happen, I like her as a friend as a Fuck buddy , but may be she better as a more matured best friend type person.

Do you find any logic in not being able to keep things going with Cathy just because I was able to keep M&J, thus leading me to miss Jade's date? I've done everything right with her, yet I'm not even given the choice, I just tell her it's over. All while I keep banging practically all that moves with M&J's approval. We all get this is not an harem, paths will lock somewhere and choices should have an impact (and they will), but some of dev's locks along the way are fairly questionable. Especially by comparison

 

[Selek]

I loved this update. I spent a lot of time replaying scenes I found compelling, like Quinn's walk through the rain, the strange conversations inside her dealer's hovel, and the cross-cuts between misbehaving men (Maya's dad, Jade's husband) at the end. I really enjoy the new management sim. (Conversely, I'm apparently the only person who misses the old turn-based Brawler; I don't like this new QTE version.) I understand why some people don't like the DnG stuff, as I felt a twinge of annoyance at first, but I took a break and prepared myself for it, and I ended up enjoying the puzzle that leads to the icy ending.

I felt real empathy for Maya during the "free tuition" bit, and I like that the audience knows more about this than she does.

I'm still playing my one and only save, a "DIK" alignment game. I'm ready to restart and try some different approaches. Is there a comprehensive walkthrough anywhere? I see a cheat/walkthru here, and partial walkthrus elsewhere, but my guess is this game is so complex that a thorough walkthrough will take time.

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

I loved this update. I spent a lot of time replaying scenes I found compelling, like Quinn's walk through the rain, the strange conversations inside her dealer's hovel, and the cross-cuts between misbehaving men (Maya's dad, Jade's husband) at the end. I really enjoy the new management sim. (Conversely, I'm apparently the only person who misses the old turn-based Brawler; I don't like this new QTE version.) I understand why some people don't like the DnG stuff, as I felt a twinge of annoyance at first, but I took a break and prepared myself for it, and I ended up enjoying the puzzle that leads to the icy ending.

I felt real empathy for Maya during the "free tuition" bit, and I like that the audience knows more about this than she does.

I'm still playing my one and only save, a "DIK" alignment game. I'm ready to restart and try some different approaches. Is there a comprehensive walkthrough anywhere? I see a cheat/walkthru here, and partial walkthrus elsewhere, but my guess is this game is so complex that a thorough walkthrough will take time.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

but it isn't, and it has been always the case. 6 episode you know how the game works. right in the beginning you have to choose between Caty or Jade. You can't have it all in one run!!!!!. if it was just pure affinity system you will be bitchin anyway. "Why can't maya avilable wiht Dik affinity". "Why I cant Fuck Quinn as a Chick". etc etc etc
and if it's would be just relationship point hunting then everyone would just focus on that, max everything with everyone HAREM.

To be perfectly honest, that's preferable to have things blocked and locked based on interactions with different characters because at least then it makes that these characters do something with the MC or like the MC based on their interactions with them. The main problem with this affinity system is that it's not taking this into account a lot of the time and it does make certain moments inconsistent with character relationships.

It's not about making this a "harem" game or anything like that because consequences from sleeping around can still come back to bite the MC with certain relationships later on, they don't all have to be fine with it as would be the case in a harem game and I wouldn't expect them to. But if the MC has a near 100% positive relationship with a certain character, they shouldn't be auto-blocked from them just because of a metric that seems to only serve as something to block content for the sake of it.

 

[AchedCroissant]

if only this scene happen like this

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[Boy Blue]

It's been said before that the affinity system is not some sort of morality or personality system, so then what is it? Because right now it just seems like a way to indiscriminately block content.

Who said that? DPC seems to disagree

 

[ChipLecsap]

Do you find any logic in not being able to keep things going with Cathy just because I was able to keep M&J, thus leading me to miss Jade's date? I've done everything right with her, yet I'm not even given the choice, I just tell her it's over. All while I keep banging practically all that moves with M&J's approval. We all get this is not an harem, paths will lock somewhere and choices should have an impact (and they will), but some of dev's locks along the way are fairly questionable. Especially by comparison

Cathy and Jade, side girls, like i said they start to lock each others out , library scene, turning point. you either go for J&M, or you go for Jade. everything you did before the library lead to the library scene , where the paths seperate from each other. it can't be more logical or obvious than this. But I don't think I can give you the answer you want to hear. You have to understand, or at least accept, that decision will comes with sacrifices. This is what people wanted, but now that they have it, they don't like the system, because it's not exactly how they want it. .

 

[Gladheim]

Oh man how I wish I could forget everything and start the game another time without knowing anything.

 

[SisterFister123]

Use torrent, I m seeding it. I m sure there are other too!!
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where is the torrent link?

 

[ChipLecsap]

To be perfectly honest, that's preferable to have things blocked and locked based on interactions with different characters because at least then it makes that these characters do something with the MC or like the MC based on their interactions with them. The main problem with this affinity system is that it's not taking this into account a lot of the time and it does make certain moments inconsistent with character relationships.

It's not about making this a "harem" game or anything like that because consequences from sleeping around can still come back to bite the MC with certain relationships later on, they don't all have to be fine with it as would be the case in a harem game and I wouldn't expect them to. But if the MC has a near 100% positive relationship with a certain character, they shouldn't be auto-blocked from them just because of a metric that seems to only serve as something to block content for the sake of it.

What you really want, is to be able to unlock every lewd scene in one go, and that's it, and you want to reload and play as you please.

this is a big cast, it's not 5 five character, it's dozens. There are already so many variable to count with, that it must have a system, where it can be separated.
so in a path for Joys and Maya you don't have to count with, Quinn personal variables, or lily, or jade or whatever. and Whereas a path without them you dont have to calculate their variables.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Left one is Sage's father.

I thought that at first because he was hoping his daughter would be there and Sage is trying to avoid her father, but I think that's just to try to trick us.

Most of the HOTs sans Sage and Quinn are in formal dress wear. And with Sage hiding and Quinn running around trying to run dope deals, he might not have seen them. Leaving this man(if Sage's father) no reason to suspect Sage is there. But if he's Jill's father, he has every reason to believe the only girl living in the mansion should be there.

Sage's dad is somebody important, when I was working out the theory I though he might be the guy I suspect is MC grandpappy, until I started a new game and see the same suit wearing looking dude that is Lynette's father.

Lots to process and speculate about here.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

If there is going to be 12 parts then we have just hit the half-way mark. Expect story lines and romance plots to start resolving. Jill's has already begun with the MC proclaiming he is falling for her.

 

[Gladheim]

I thought that at first because he was hoping his daughter would be there and Sage is trying to avoid her father, but I think that's just to try to trick us.

Most of the HOTs sans Sage and Quinn are in formal dress wear. And with Sage hiding and Quinn running around trying to run dope deals, he might not have seen them. Leaving this man(if Sage's father) no reason to suspect Sage is there. But if he's Jill's father, he has every reason to believe the only girl living in the mansion should be there.

Sage's dad is somebody important, when I was working out the theory I though he might be the guy I suspect is MC grandpappy, until I started a new game and see the same suit wearing looking dude that is Lynette's father.

Lots to process and speculate about here.

Sage has green eyes and the one with the beard has blue eyes

 

[phill_leotardo]

Left one is Sage's father.

i think it's just a gay couple