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Shuls01

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I think the person that used the laptop to spread the Cathy pic from rooster, is sarah ( or mel ). I think Sarah purposely seduced Rusty to get to the laptop, and is in league with Chad and the Alpha's. In order to destroy the Hot/DIK alliance. There is more than enough evidence that sarah and melanie are spying and reporting to chad. I don't think they know that chad is gay. Although i think the actual person behind it is not chad, i think it's dawe who is the person behind the curtain, and chad is the fallguy. Yet sarah and melanie don't know it.
Actualy I'm almost certain its one of the DIKs tho I have no clue who because if you show the DIKs during your evaluation the video where you are fucking Jade Jacob calls for the DIK rule or whatever and everyone is supposed to earase ever seeing it from their memories and they should delete the video right away but then at the end of episode 6 you see how Bruke got a hold of that video and Sara nor Mel had access to it at that point, only MC and the DIKs.
 

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I think the person that used the laptop to spread the Cathy pic from rooster, is sarah ( or mel ). I think Sarah purposely seduced Rusty to get to the laptop, and is in league with Chad and the Alpha's. In order to destroy the Hot/DIK alliance. There is more than enough evidence that sarah and melanie are spying and reporting to chad. I don't think they know that chad is gay. Although i think the actual person behind it is not chad, i think it's dawe who is the person behind the curtain, and chad is the fallguy. Yet sarah and melanie don't know it.
Every thing you said have a point mate, just one thing(forgot who said this) but only DIk's members know the password of the laptop, that's the reason why in the traitor discussion the suspect/s falls on the Diks member but who knows maybe your right and the traitor is an outsider.
 

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For the Cathy cluck I've been saying it for awhile now that its the tri betas. Episode 2 before the shot battle, Sally is seen looking cute in a dress and dancing with Jam Jam.
I think its in ep3 we learn that Jam Jam lost his phone. Rusty gives him a new one later on. The phones are connected to the DIks rooster account.
 

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For the Cathy cluck I've been saying it for awhile now that its the tri betas. Episode 2 before the shot battle, Sally is seen looking cute in a dress and dancing with Jam Jam.
I think its in ep3 we learn that Jam Jam lost his phone. Rusty gives him a new one later on. The phones are connected to the DIks rooster account.
Yes, exactly. It's in a cluck.
 
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Shuls01

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For the Cathy cluck I've been saying it for awhile now that its the tri betas. Episode 2 before the shot battle, Sally is seen looking cute in a dress and dancing with Jam Jam.
I think its in ep3 we learn that Jam Jam lost his phone. Rusty gives him a new one later on. The phones are connected to the DIks rooster account.
What? I dont remember that part, then again I dont remember small details form the earlier chapters.
If thats the case then Jade video leak and Cathy cluck would be unrelated.
 

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What? I dont remember that part, then again I dont remember small details form the earlier chapters.
If thats the case then Jade video leak and Cathy cluck would be unrelated.
Big money Cas has been here for a year and a half little one.
I have read the great debates from titans who are now gone...lost.

Personally I don't think the two are related either.
Shame we didn't see Burke at all this episode. A small scene would have been nice like Burke seeing MC in the halls and making some kind of comment
 

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Alright, after playing 0.7.2 with and without the scrappy mod, and unpacking and looking over the code, I'll have to say this:

The game is getting way heavier than Renpy can handle. Lagspikes even without autosaves are a lot more frequent than 0.6.1.

And I have a top of the line gaming computer, i9 10th gen, 2080 super, 3 separate SSDs, all top grade, the works.

I'm watching CPU and GPU usage during gameplay, and there's nothing spiking. This is all code bottlenecking. ( Also a data scientist very proficient in Python, pyspark and the like, and Renpy is not that off for me to analyze)

DPC is coding extremely variable heavy. And the callouts with all the conditional clauses he's using is bottlenecking Renpy's already slower response times.

This is why even indie devs use stuff like Unreal engine to make some VNs.

DPC's lack of OOP ( object oriented programming for the uninitiated) coding is going to make this game unbearably slow and crash prone by the time he hits episode 10 at this rate.

I'd set aside a whole month, hire a proficient coder and rework the entire codebase for his Steam season 2 release after Episode 8 release.

Comments welcome. Just wanted to add my two cents in. Wish he allowed Steam customers to comment directly on his discord, because I could point out where he was specifically going wrong even.

Edit note: There are a total of 13 separate variables he included just to make scrappy used saves incompatible in his releases. While, sure, by themselves don't mean much in computing expense, it's just an indicator of his tech debt skyrocketing so fast with each release.
 
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Big money Cas has been here for a year and a half little one.
I have read the great debates from titans who are now gone...lost.

Personally I don't think the two are related either.
Shame we didn't see Burke at all this episode. A small scene would have been nice like Burke seeing MC in the halls and making some kind of comment
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F for the fallen
 

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I just can't accept the logic the if your are having it with bella it's okk but If you are on dik path no jill for you no matter what you do.

I think jill character to entitled if this keep up i am gona drop jill.
I don't like people which behave like god and pretend to be higher then other anyway. While love to stick with golden spoon.
Full of bbullshi just like jade hate her husband but love to stick with him.
I am done with jill bs.
 
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ename144

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So its fine for Chad to use Sage to hide the fact he is gay but its not fine for Sage to find out who he was chating on her with?
I think the adult thing is for Chad to tell her that in private and to not involve anyone else on this, incluiding MC but I have a feeling from the way Chad has been acting that that isnt going to happen and MC will have to do it for him.
It's definitely not fine, but I think revealing Chad's secret could be fairly explosive given the ridiculously homophobic culture among the jocks. That's going too far, despite how badly he treated Sage.

Personally, I'm hoping we'll be able to persuade him that Sage deserves a proper explanation and he'll tell her himself (and we can then persuade her to keep his secret until it's safe to reveal). On the one hand, this seems possible, since Chad does seem a lot better disposed to the MC if he tried to help Chad during the councilor meeting. On the other hand, that seems like too simple and tidy a resolution to the matter, so some sort of snags are bound to come up.


Apart from arranging a meeting right with Sage there without alerting Quinn:
- with the HOT code Sage would probably not believe it
- its either just a rumor if you don't use it or you just admit to pay for sex

Also I have a feeling the game would be a lot shorter.
I'm not sure about that: Sage believed Maya when she said Quinn lied to her and flipped her off instead of trying to get her back in the HOTs. Given how close she is to the MC these days, if he honestly told her about Quinn I would expect Sage would at least look into it. (Though the MC probably will have to answer some uncomfortable questions if he did take Quinn's deal.)


I've now finished, DIK CHICK and Neutral runs. Here are the playthroughs I think we'll need in the end;

Complete DIK - Fucking everyone take all bad choices, consequences be damned. (AKA the Quinn path)

DIK - Sage path. Take mostly DIK choices with some common sence

Neutral/CHICK - Maya and Josy Mix of choices, allows balance of fun but not being a maniac. If you keep things balanced between the two (Maya during the prep Party and taking her the TV, Josy on the other occasions) it should set you up for either one if they break up)
That's how I thought the balancing act with Maya and Josy would work, but I'm less sure now. The fact that sex with Josy at the start of the episode is described as "seducing" her, and the Episode wrap-up talking about how he and Josy are getting very horny for each other makes me wonder if things might be a little more complicated. We know Josy has a much higher libido than Maya; perhaps keeping the throuple going will require keeping Josy from overdosing on the MC while she and Maya are apart?


Also, right now one interesting thing come to my mind.
Simple question, maybe someone will answer.
At the party in the new Episode there's a moment, when Chad hold one of the Jock's and says to him about MC, that "He's cool" (or something like that).

The thing is: back in Episode 3 after the fight with Chad and the meeting with the staff there was a pick between "Defend Chad"/"Don't say nothing". I remember picking to defend him.

Maybe a small thing but: did someone picked to NOT defend him and can tell, if at the party his reaction about MC is diffrent?

Maybe a small thing, but I'm just curious, did DrPinkCake included that (you may though) not very important pick, that 4 episodes later can change a thing or two.
Yes, Chad's reaction is different if the MC didn't try to defend him:
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Not clear if this will come up again later, but given the cliffhanger it seems likely.


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Any theory of what is written here?
I'm guessing it's just a way to avoid having to write out the MC's name; it's probably a lot harder to put dynamic text on an image (rather than just in the text box).


For the Cathy cluck I've been saying it for awhile now that its the tri betas. Episode 2 before the shot battle, Sally is seen looking cute in a dress and dancing with Jam Jam.
I think its in ep3 we learn that Jam Jam lost his phone. Rusty gives him a new one later on. The phones are connected to the DIks rooster account.
Actualy I'm almost certain its one of the DIKs tho I have no clue who because if you show the DIKs during your evaluation the video where you are fucking Jade Jacob calls for the DIK rule or whatever and everyone is supposed to earase ever seeing it from their memories and they should delete the video right away but then at the end of episode 6 you see how Bruke got a hold of that video and Sara nor Mel had access to it at that point, only MC and the DIKs.
It's possible I'm just too trusting, but I don't think the DIKs are behind the leaks (at least not intentionally). I just can't see any reason why any of the DIKs would want to leak the Jade video. I think whoever hacked the laptop for the Cathy-cluck still has some sort of access to it (or possibly to a cloud account as Cas suggested).


Anyone know the music from the first Josy scene?
It's called . Really liked that one (though the lyrics are certainly ominous!).
 

Zexawy

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Copy the attached file into your "\season2\scripts" folder. Make sure it's called update7.rpy

It removes the cheat protection (from using mods in the previous updates), however this doesn't mean your game won't be fucked up later.
Thank you
 
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ename144

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Alright, after playing 0.7.2 with and without the scrappy mod, and unpacking and looking over the code, I'll have to say this:

The game is getting way heavier than Renpy can handle. Lagspikes even without autosaves are a lot more frequent than 0.6.1.

And I have a top of the line gaming computer, i9 10th gen, 2080 super, 3 separate SSDs, all top grade, the works.

I'm watching CPU and GPU usage during gameplay, and there's nothing spiking. This is all code bottlenecking. ( Also a data scientist very proficient in Python, pyspark and the like, and Renpy is not that off for me to analyze)

DPC is coding extremely variable heavy. And the callouts with all the conditional clauses he's using is bottlenecking Renpy's already slower response times.

This is why even indie devs use stuff like Unreal engine to make some VNs.

DPC's lack of OOP ( object oriented programming for the uninitiated) coding is going to make this game unbearably slow and crash prone by the time he hits episode 10 at this rate.

I'd set aside a whole month, hire a proficient coder and rework the entire codebase for his Steam season 2 release after Episode 8 release.

Comments welcome. Just wanted to add my two cents in. Wish he allowed Steam customers to comment directly on his discord, because I could point out where he was specifically going wrong even.

Edit note: There are a total of 13 separate variables he included just to make scrappy used saves incompatible in his releases. While, sure, by themselves don't mean much in computing expense, it's just an indicator of his tech debt skyrocketing so fast with each release.
You may well be correct, but I very much doubt DPC will be eager to hand over coding to a more qualified expert, and I don't think he has time to become such an expert himself. So I fear the problem will fester until it hits a critical mass bad enough to force DPC to fix it. I'd certainly be happy to be proven wrong on this, though.


As promised here is an excel with a guide on how to finish the mansion minigame by the end of episode 7, hope its easy to understand.
I think with enough optimization its possible to do it while also taking the VIP pass but I cant be bothered to do that much math :LOL:
fakitap pinging you since you wanted to know if it was possible to finish it in 6 turns.
Wow, interesting approach! But AFAICT, you have Derek trying to fix the Right Hallway on his own in the 7th sheet, and he's 80% short. I can swap DIKs around to move Derek to Upper Area #3 where he's only 60% short, but I'm still not finishing the mansion before the 8th sheet (where you have the Hallway listed as fixed.

Other than leaving Rusty at 92% Work, I don't see any easy way to free up points, and that's not enough to make up the difference. Did I miss something here?
 
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