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sorco2003

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That Quinn deliberately acted this way to make Maya think that free tuition existed is beyond any doubt, but I want to break a lance in her favor.

apart from a generic moral issue, Quinn had no real motivation to warn Maya that the rumor was unfounded. why would she do that? it's not clear to me to what extent she would want Maya on the restaurant menu, it seems like Quinn's classic plan doomed to failure... but even beyond that, why would she warn Maya? between the two there is no friendship, no sympathy. Quinn is the swindler who sells the Trevi fountain and Maya is the American tourist who believes anything she is told...

It's a bad joke played on someone you don't like and have nothing in common with. Morally wrong, but this guilt of Quinn's doesn't even make the top ten.
There are two dialogues that make me think that Quinn wanted Maya in the restaurant, obviously they are not explicit, they are a sort of joining of dots, and obviously I could be wrong. One, first free roam, Quinn and Riona talking coming out of the bathroom, paraphrasing, Riona asks who, Quinn replies that she thinks Mona and Maya.
Second dialogue between Riona and Quinn, when they argue after he was robbed, again, paraphrasing, Riona tells him enough with the expansion thing and to stop insisting on Maya.
By this what I mean? that if we take as a fact that in the conversation in the pool Quinn was talking about free tuition, obviously she was not going to deny it in front of her chosen ones as new "staff".
 

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There are two dialogues that make me think that Quinn wanted Maya in the restaurant, obviously they are not explicit, they are a sort of joining of dots, and obviously I could be wrong. One, first free roam, Quinn and Riona talking coming out of the bathroom, paraphrasing, Riona asks who, Quinn replies that she thinks Mona and Maya.
Second dialogue between Riona and Quinn, when they argue after he was robbed, again, paraphrasing, Riona tells him enough with the expansion thing and to stop insisting on Maya.
By this what I mean? that if we take as a fact that in the conversation in the pool Quinn was talking about free tuition, obviously she was not going to deny it in front of her chosen ones as new "staff".
the dialogues with Riona give that impression, but we don't know how much she knows about Quinn's true intentions in general, not just in relation to Maya.

But how was Quinn planning to convince Maya? By tricking her, abusing her, and then convincing her to do something completely out of her comfort zone? Can Quinn ever expect Maya to accept her proposal after proving herself untrustworthy?

the only "realistic" way would have been blackmail with the video of the threesome in hand, but the disinterest with which Quinn, surely distracted by her own affairs, follows Maya's scavenger hunt and the fact that she assumes Maya didn't complete the "sexual" points of the list leads in another direction.
 

sorco2003

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the dialogues with Riona give that impression, but we don't know how much she knows about Quinn's true intentions in general, not just in relation to Maya.

But how was Quinn planning to convince Maya? By tricking her, abusing her, and then convincing her to do something completely out of her comfort zone? Can Quinn ever expect Maya to accept her proposal after proving herself untrustworthy?

the only "realistic" way would have been blackmail with the video of the threesome in hand, but the disinterest with which Quinn, surely distracted by her own affairs, follows Maya's scavenger hunt and the fact that she assumes Maya didn't complete the "sexual" points of the list leads in another direction.
Yes, you're right about all that, I saw it that way the first time I played, the list was a "test" of how far to go, and all the material collected could have been blackmail material if Maya hadn't been convinced once Quinn offered to be part of it. Thank God, all of that can be dismissed as one of the many crazy theories that have been and will be.
 
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goldenrule91

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Arieth as mastermind??
I can´t shake off the feeling that Arieth is not as dumb as she (likes to) appear(s). Okay she fucks them all, but I think it os both literally and metaphorical - for in the end she will be the one on top (again literally and metaphorical). When the others are undone or destroyed themselves in the process she will survive and in the end be the one pulling the strings.
I've been messing around with this idea of Arieth as the mastermind too. I haven't trawled through this thread yet about what other people have theorized in the past so I'll just spew out a few things and people can correct me on them if I'm off base.

How is Arieth still at B&R? I believe it's mentioned, maybe by Tommy, that Arieth was one of the 'rejects'. This explains how she entered the college. But it's also mentioned on Rooster (I think by Quinn) that Arieth is still taking first year classes. If Arieth is just pretending to be dumb, that's a very long con, but more importantly who is paying for that? Does Arieth have rich family, is she just stupidly accumulating debt, or is she involved with Burke and his free tuition scheme? I think it's most likely that she's working with Burke, as it's already been established that he likes to bang his students and is willing to fabricate free tuition to achieve that, so given Arieth's willingness to bang anyone they seem to be a match made in heaven. If that is the case, Arieth could be Burke's spy on the DIKs, the HOTs and the jocks, seeing as she's the only person we know who hangs around every group regularly.

Another thing that I thought of was the fact that the jocks attacked the DIK mansion with dildos. I don't think it's ever resolved as to why they had so many dildos, but my guess would be that they got them from Arieth. Who else would have so many just laying around? However, it's never mentioned by anyone that they belonged to Arieth, and Arieth never tries to get any of them back, so this makes me feel that I may have missed something obvious about where they came from in the game. It's just suspicious that the jocks could have shown up with anything to attack the DIK mansion, they're a bunch of athletes so they must have plenty of balls and shit, but they chose to show up with dildos. That may be significant, may not - if it is significant, it could point to Arieth intentionally sleeping with Tommy to start the beef with the jocks, then leaving the dildos conveniently for the jocks to use to attack the mansion. Why? If she's working for/with Burke, he may want them fighting for some reason, I haven't thought that far ahead yet.

It seems to be that Quinn is the one pointing out how Arieth is especially dumb - she does this on Rooster about how Arieth is still taking first year classes. Also, Arieth eats the dog food in front of Quinn, although it's been debated as to whether Quinn noticed that detail since she was high at the time. So the two dumbest things about Arieth we know from Quinn. If Arieth is Burke's sleeper agent, is she there to spy on Quinn for him since Quinn is also working for Burke with the prostitution stuff?

There are a bunch of other smaller stuff I won't get into. Why the devil's threesome with Arieth and the two DIKs was filmed from a top corner of the room. The times Arieth has taken swipes at people on Rooster - especially that one time when she pretty nastily went after Riona on Rooster and then backtracked hard when people defended her. That's pretty suspicious to me because no one else in the entire game says anything bad about Riona except for Arieth, and now that Riona has a stalker there might be some connection there somewhere... maybe to do with Anthony, who I also have suspicions about.
 
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vijvij

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Thank you. I was trying to do exactly that but DPC has a shitload of variables even for a side character like her.

edit: Not working for me. The value reverts to 1 for whatever reason.
Dunno if someone has already found a solution for the MC being rejected by Bella. Here is how I fixed it. I opened the save at the end of the tennis match with RenPy Save Editor desktop app (not the online save editor). The ep5_cathy_lewd variable is only available after unchecking Hide Ren'Py Dialogues. The editor shows two ep5_cathy_lewd variables. Edit the first one and change it to False and Apply Changes. After I loaded the same bella didn't reject the MC.
 
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Due to public demand (ok, Tserriednich'sNen asked), here's a chronologically ordered pictorial of Bella slowly developing feelings for the mc.

The hard part with Bella are all her expressions are so very subtle (except the angry ones). It's even hard to gauge an expression without the preceding shot to see it change in context, but I can't post that many pictures, so this post is really for the true Bella connoisseurs .

Just a note, I started this post off comically, but decided to change the tone to serious, I wanted to do it justice, same as the Quinn progression post, rather than just have a laugh.

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You can't tell me that isn't the face of someone whos like "Hmmm i did kill my husband but maybe now its also time to kill my new boyfriend" :ROFLMAO:
 
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Dommyp69

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Hey was wondering if any kind soul could help me out with my query? I've been playing the game on my mac, and up until the latest update everything ran perfectly. Now the new update also runs fine, just none of the new scenes seem to be playable from the gallery (as in the gallery section doesn't seem to have registered that the game has updated). Anyone had a similar experience/have any idea how to fix this? :)
 

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Due to public demand (ok, Tserriednich'sNen asked), here's a chronologically ordered pictorial of Bella slowly developing feelings for the mc.

The hard part with Bella are all her expressions are so very subtle (except the angry ones). It's even hard to gauge an expression without the preceding shot to see it change in context, but I can't post that many pictures, so this post is really for the true Bella connoisseurs .

Just a note, I started this post of comically, but decided to change the tone to serious, I wanted to do it justice, same as the Quinn progression post, rather than just have a laugh.
I think you miss a few important parts when they cleaned MC's room during the 6th episode

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yeah I know I am a bit prolix... but we are talking about Bella so I suppose in this case it is good.
 
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vogelbeest

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Quinn use the rumor to expand the restaurant business, i will not be surprised if it was set up for the freshies who need extra money, who is behind it tho? Burke?:unsure:, what if this is organized by alumni themselves? what if this restaurant thing has been running for a long time too just like a tradition?:eek:
Burke is part of it, he deletes Mona's tuition file, (if you read it you can see it's a sponsorship from a certain Wallace TOC)
But there's a conversation between Quinn and Riona that suggests the 2 of them started it, and Riona says it's not easy anymore, she is against expanding...

Burke tells Jade he had sex with 3 students... (during the argument Jade is throwing pictures at him)
Riona, Sarah, Melanie would be likely them... Camily probably only does the restaurant part, she chose different then Mona..
The restaurant is basicly the gloryhole service... (plus any specials during parties)
The "free" tuition involves getting intimate with Burke, he probably can get sponsors anyway with his family's connections, he just gives it to girls for free sex...
 

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Did anyone get that little joke with Tommy's coin that DPC show in second episode?
The coin appears to be Ephesus Drachm with stag and bee on sides.
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The people of this ancient Greek city worshiped Artemis and their money wore her symbols.
The bee personified Artemis herself and the stag was the symbol of Actaeon - the hero who was turned into a stag by Artemis for spying on her while she was swimming.
Tommy, during the toss of the coin, chose the side of the stag for the MC - he was turned naked for watching Quinn anc Camila (Tommy knew it for sure).
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Also MC recognized the coin before toss. How? His dad's was collecting coins and that one is not so expensive IRL so it was in collection for sure.
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Nerd!

anyway i think i found a solution for this Quinn Maya feud... a fight!

let them fight it out in an inflatable mud filled pool!

seems reasonable! Make it happen!

It was filmed on Jamie's phone by Jamie himself. Then he lost his phone (obviously it was stolen by person who planted the photo to Dawe). Another question is Jacob - there was a photo from the corner of the janitor room.
that one from Jacob was aimed at the MC who was supposed to fuck Sarah in that storeroom that night... if you played your cards right he did just that!
 

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that one from Jacob was aimed at the MC who was supposed to fuck Sarah in that storeroom that night... if you played your cards right he did just that!
Looks like Sarah's job. Does it means blackmailing jocks is her work too? But what for?
 

Trysexual

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Am I wrong when I say that Quinn never once promised or mentioned free tuition to anyone?
Quinn never promised anyone a mother fucking thing. Maya assumed and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. Then she had the audacity, the unmitigated gall, to slap Quinn for a lie Quinn never told. Maya was shooting her mouth off to the MC about free tuition the first time they met. That was before we even knew there was a Quinn.

I want to know how Maya could afford her books in the first place without any tuition money. How the fuck did she even get in the door without paying her tuition? That's a real hole in the writing. Asking the game player to suspend reality (the reality the game itself creates) when the plot forgets to connect events is what leads to these arguments.

Besides, one look at Maya and Quinn would know nobody is paying for that shit when they can get Riona, Camilla, Sarah, et. al.

We also need to return to a rather important plot twist:

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Maya didn't even get mentioned in this conversation. So, no, you're not wrong.
 

cryhwks

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Finally got enough free time to play the new update. A lot of really good stuff.

I thought the relationship with Josy really advanced a lot. I feel like this one really confirmed for me that it will be possible to have a monogamous relationship with maybe each Maya and Josy? But definitely with Josy for sure. Got several moments with her in this one. And definitely the best Maya sex scenes so far.

AAnd God her dad is an absolute asshole. I wish we could somehow set up a murder suicide situation between him and Tylbet.

Finally setting up a possible real relationship with Sage. And who knows what it's going to take to get a 5/5? LoL.

II really loved everything with Bella. Her hesitance I think is realistic, I liked their little casual date, and I definitely liked that how into it she got. And her taking off the ring was good progression.

And I'm interested to so what happens with the James character? Because I feel like the surprising thing would be he died in war, and the reason it's been extra tough on Bella to move on, other than her spouse tragically dying, which is already a good enough reason, but maybe they had a fight before he left? And the actual last drama thing with Bella will be having to deal with dating Bella and Jill?

And Jill was also good. Her being a super sheltered virgin I think fits with how her character does things. Because she is very oblivious sometimes. I thought it was a nice touch how she added the MC picture to her pictures of people she cares the most about.
 

cryhwks

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Quinn never promised anyone a mother fucking thing. Maya assumed and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. Then she had the audacity, the unmitigated gall, to slap Quinn for a lie Quinn never told. Maya was shooting her mouth off to the MC about free tuition the first time they met. That was before we even knew there was a Quinn.

I want to know how Maya could afford her books in the first place without any tuition money. How the fuck did she even get in the door without paying her tuition? That's a real hole in the writing. Asking the game player to suspend reality (the reality the game itself creates) when the plot forgets to connect events is what leads to these arguments.

Besides, one look at Maya and Quinn would know nobody is paying for that shit when they can get Riona, Camilla, Sarah, et. al.

We also need to return to a rather important plot twist:

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Maya didn't even get mentioned in this conversation. So, no, you're not wrong.
And your assuming that conversation between Maya and Quinn about the tuition didn't happen offscreen.
 

vogelbeest

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I want to know how Maya could afford her books in the first place without any tuition money. How the fuck did she even get in the door without paying her tuition? That's a real hole in the writing. Asking the game player to suspend reality (the reality the game itself creates) when the plot forgets to connect events is what leads to these arguments.
Maya is dependent on her co-signed student loan, her father uses that as leverage so Maya can not see Josy.... she doesnt need the free tuition for the money, she needs it so she no longer is dependent on her father.... No plot hole here... it's clearly explained why and how...

(co-signed means you will be held accountable for paying back, however the main signer gets the money.... so her father has the means to stop paying college anytime he wants meaning Maya will drop-out, but still needs to pay everything back, while not getting any money)
 
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