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No, As a friend I don't want A new friend to to make her sister to keep mc in her room.Oh right, one more thing I forgot to write is that Derek's a top tier bro and we should all want one in our lives.
No, As a friend I don't want A new friend to to make her sister to keep mc in her room.Oh right, one more thing I forgot to write is that Derek's a top tier bro and we should all want one in our lives.
Let's do a quick recap.Excuse me? Maya knew it was a rumor and that's why she wanted to confirm it, Quinn never denied the rumor, on the contrary, she confirmed it.
In Episode 2 Maya tells the MC that Quinn vaguely offered her the free tuition and at the beginning of Episode 3 we have a scene at the HOTs pool where Quinn offers Maya and Mona the free tuition while Mona accepts without asking questions, Maya asks what they need do to get it (It doesn't sound like something someone gullible would ask) and in that moment Sage arrives, Quinn tells them not to say a word of what they were talking about.
So no, this is not Maya's fault, Quinn was playing with her from the beginning for petty reasons because she knew Maya would never have accepted what Quinn does in the "restaurant". Quinn deserved that slap and was asking for it in the way she treated Maya.
Also, we don't know exactly why Sage wants to help Maya, she doesn't look like she just wants to help her out of pity.
This is flawed logic. She asked someone in a sorority to which she did not yet belong and had not even applied and had no guarantee of being accepted into in any case about free tuition which she needed before she enrolled because you cannot pay for college after the fact. It's prepaid. So, she had no scholarships, grants, loans, or other means of paying her tuition and was relying on being accepted into a sorority based upon an unverified claim. It's ridiculous on face.Maya DID ask about it. The problem is that Quinn flat out lied to her. Since she was the HOT VP and Maya's official contact person (even if she raised an objection), Maya assumed that Quinn wouldn't be able to blatantly lie about that without the rest of the HOTs knowing about it. Unfortunately, Sage was asleep at the switch for the first 6.25 episodes, so Quinn was free to lie.
Now you are going to a different topic.Excuse you is right. What kind of idiot would confirm free tuition with the VP of a sorority? Any person with a brain would confirm free tuition with the registrar or the tuition office, not with another student. And they would do it before the enroll, not after. Yes, it is Maya's fault for asking the wrong person the wrong question hoping for the right answer. Stop blaming other people for Maya's failure to adult.
I agree, it doesn't make sense that Maya doesn't realize that obviously Quinn doesn't want Sage to know what she's doing when it's very obvious from the situation and context. That makes her look like a moron.Let's do a quick recap.
She asks what free tuition requires to Quinn.
Right after that the President of HOTs comes in.
Quinn says "Now, zip it.".
If she doesn't understand something sketchy or shady going on right away, sorry but she's a moron. No underselling it. She can come to these conclusions ; either that's just a rumor and nothing more, or it's something shady/sketchy so Quinn doesn't want Sage to know. Either way, instead of confirming it with Sage, she just takes it at face value. Decides to believe it blindly.
She is not shy about voicing her concerns to Sage too as we know. If MC says don't trust Quinn, she goes and asks Sage to change her mother. So yeah, however much you guys say otherwise, Maya has at last some of the blame. Because she's definitely not a moron.
For Sage part, either you didn't even bother playing Sage's path or skipped through it, because she's a very kind and caring person. Shown multiple times at that. She didn't need to do anything about her situation yet she suspects she's in deep shit. Asks about it to the closest people she has first. Does something about it first(paperwork maybe, idk) and then goes extends a helping hand. To gain her trust, she tells about her own situation and what she really feels. That's a big fucking deal because of her nature. What can she gain from that except Maya's good will and thanks? Absolutely nothing. No need to doubt everyone except Maya god's sake
This but unironically.What the fuck is what Quinn went through compared to that? She is a criminal needs to be shunned, locked up, even killed.
When it comes to the Quinn/Tommy dynamic, I see Tommy as no better than Quinn. While our place in the story provides no evidence to this yet, I'm fairly certain he's done some pretty despicable things as well. Until recently, I'm pretty positive Quinn and Tommy were partners in crime. Given the opportunity, I'd actually love to dive deeper into his character to get a better understanding of why he is the way he is and I can even use the same analysis for Tommy as I do for Quinn. It seems as though MC is slowly changing Tommy as well. After the fight, Tommy's perspective and how he chooses to interact with MC changed rather drastically.But as many players have bitterly pointed out, the MC still treats Maya as his friend even if she rejects him in Episode 4. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but compare that to how Quinn treats Tommy at the end of Episode 7. The MC can be self-centered and crude, but even at his worst he never views people around him as chew toys unless they've gone out of their way to antagonize him (like, say, Tybalt by the end of Episode 7).
I respect your reasoning behind remaining skeptical, and I even concur to a degree but color me as an optimist that genuinely wants to see the best in people, including fictitious characters. If we take a look at the B&R timeline, we're only in the first semester. We've only interacted with Quinn a handful of times at best. It could be for time constraining purposes that DPC decided to quicken the pace but as an optimist, I choose to believe that there's more at play here. Perhaps MC is more influential than originally anticipated. It's going to come down to a point I made in a previous post when I touched back on the conversation Tommy and MC had after the fist fight. I'm paraphrasing here, so forgive me for not going word for word.I've already said my piece on Quinn never being shown kindness, so I won't rehash it here. Besides, I sincerely hope you are right. But I'm going to remain skeptical until I actually see Quinn take an action - any action - that actually shows she would place the MC's interest over her own. Because thus far it just hasn't happened. The only time the MC is able to connect with her is when he's doing things she wants/needs him to do AND is going about it in more or less the manner Quinn would prefer.
That *could* be the setup for the MC to earn her trust and finally encourage her vestigial altruism to surface, but it could just as easily be the case of Quinn taking advantage of the MC the same way she takes advantage of everyone else (it's just more friendly because she didn't need to twist his arm). We won't know until Quinn actually has to make a meaningful choice. So far the closest she's got is saying the MC shouldn't give her his money for nothing, which ain't much - especially when she accepted any money he gave Riona in Episode 5.
Now Quinn has been less of an asshole towards him recently; that's not saying much, but it is at least a start. So maybe this will eventually show us some actual depth from Quinn. But if so I think it will be a ways off, because we're barely at the start of her journey.
We can't say for sure until we learn more. So for now I think Quinn's actions need to stand on their own (lack of) merits.
I guess you didn't understand where I'm coming from too, since you decided to see it as I'm trying to justify Quinn's actions to your eyes.Maya is certainly the most illustrative example of Quinn's problem, because Quinn has gone so far out of her way to make Maya's life as much of a living hell as she can manage despite Maya never doing anything worse to Quinn than (probably) letting her disapproval of Quinn's lifestyle show. You don't have to be a Maya fan to recognize that's a bad look.
But it does go beyond that. Quinn will berate and slap Riona when she doesn't rubber stamp Quinn's idiotic plans. She ditches the DIKs on an important occasion purely to avoid an uncomfortable conversation that was - as Tommy said - inevitably going to happen anyway. When Mona runs away, Quinn is eager to wash her hands of the whole matter. As I said above, she routinely abuses Sage's trust. Quinn is an unpleasant person, even to her nominal friends.
And again, it's difficult to blame that all on her past, because growing up with criminals doesn't FORCE you to become a complete asshole. Does Quinn really deserve more slack for her background that Maya? Hard to say. Yes, Maya's family is still around, but it's unclear if that's a good thing given how far her father has gone to break her will. The specific problem with regards to Josy is only a year old, but we know that Patrick wouldn't let her work a summer job even before that. Her dad is clearly a control freak, and I doubt that's a recent development.
With Quinn, all we know for sure is that she grew up in a drug den. That can cover a lot of ground. The small snippets of backstory could indicate she was routinely terrorized by a drugged out dad and his uncaring friends; that would definitely mitigate the problems she shows. But those snippets could also indicate that her 'family' was trying to do the best they could for her despite some difficult circumstances; if anything, that would make it look like Quinn was squandering the chance they tried to give her.
We can't say for sure until we learn more. So for now I think Quinn's actions need to stand on their own (lack of) merits.
The code. It’s the same reason why she denied Maya’s request to change mother (although she later realised that it was the wrong decision).Also, we don't know exactly why Sage wants to help Maya, she doesn't look like she just wants to help her out of pity.
Yeah she knew he had a key, the same MC questions how she even thought of sharing a room with Josy if her father could come in at any time as a "surprise".Also meanwhile at that, I have a question. Did she know Patrick had a key to her room before this episode? Can someone answer this? I forgot
Well that's normal behavior for her, she didn't even want being a HOT. Her only concern was money. If there was another rumor about Alphas giving free tuition, she would go and apply to them too.My problem with the Maya thing is, she could have been an adult about it and took Quinn aside after the party and asked about the tuition. And then decided it wasn't for her, and moved on, like an adult.
Instead she outright demands money as soon as she's accepted. Completely pathetic.
It's sad that because of that one scene I can't even play Josy content, because that move alone put Maya on the deep shit list and I don't think it's possible for her to get off it.
Pinkcakes makes an adult video game, mayhaps he shouldn't be writing such unlikeable characters that only an entitled child would find interesting.
I'm pretty sure she still has some lingering feelings for Chad, and she might have some sort of inferiority complex as well, probably thinking why she wasn't good enough to the extent that Chad had to cheat on her to find pleasure instead of consulting her directly about his urges. That is, of course, just my speculation about the whole situation, and I'm hoping the whole Sage-Chad situation can be resolved in the next episode, what with MC seeing Chad gay out with Troy and all. I'm really hoping for closure on Sage's part so that MC can finally date her ffsI din't know why it's hard to accept for everyone. C7 look at sage face when she sees chad. If chad asked her, Sage would have fucked chad at front of mc.
Yeap ! Once a cheater, Always a cheater.
Come on, neither Quinn nor Maya act like adults and I think that's very obvious so far.My problem with the Maya thing is, she could have been an adult about it and took Quinn aside after the party and asked about the tuition. And then decided it wasn't for her, and moved on, like an adult.
Instead she outright demands money as soon as she's accepted. Completely pathetic.
It's sad that because of that one scene I can't even play Josy content, because that move alone put Maya on the deep shit list and I don't think it's possible for her to get off it.
Pinkcakes makes an adult video game, mayhaps he shouldn't be writing such unlikeable characters that only an entitled child would find interesting.
Probably just because of contextual differences, and how different people perceive things differently hahaha. No one really gives a shit about MC punching and kicking everyone because that's just how it is man, the game has a whole mechanic devoted to fighting people so I guess people are just used to it lmao. Also the whole hating on Quinn thing is probably just because people dislike Quinn for her character and see her in a bad light, which again, depends on perspective I guess. Humans are hella flawed when it comes to beliefs.Also, what's the fetish with slaps everyone? MC is punching and kicking jaws of people and nobody talks about it. But when the situation changes, here are the reactions :
Maya slaps Quinn in front of every HOT? That's my gurl, you had it coming bitch !!!!!
Quinn slaps Riona? How dare she does this, look at her she's a bitch !!!!!
Quinn gives middle finger to Maya and calls her a bitch? *unintelligible* *flips table*
What's going on![]()
Ah right, now I checked it too and yes. She knew he had a key to her dorm and crafted a master plan to not talk about the exchange student situation to staff so she could live with Josy? Because the person tricked her to sign a document allowing him to hold her life hostage said he'd tell Derek before coming? Derek? The same Derek? Maya's twin brother? After he said he'll fuck her life up if she sees Josy and she knowingly does that? God damn she is too smart for this planet. Playing 4D Chess irl.Yeah she knew he had a key, the same MC questions how she even thought of sharing a room with Josy if her father could come in at any time as a "surprise".
I think it's something called context. Quinn's reasons for slapping Riona and Maya's for slapping Quinn are different and depending on the person, one may be more valid than the other depending on the context.Well that's normal behavior for her, she didn't even want being a HOT. Her only concern was money. If there was another rumor about Alphas giving free tuition, she would go and apply to them too.
Also, what's the fetish with slaps everyone? MC is punching and kicking jaws of people and nobody talks about it. But when the situation changes, here are the reactions :
Maya slaps Quinn in front of every HOT? That's my gurl, you had it coming bitch !!!!!
Quinn slaps Riona? How dare she does this, look at her she's a bitch !!!!!
Quinn gives middle finger to Maya and calls her a bitch? *unintelligible* *flips table*
What's going on![]()
Absolutely not. Her reason for doing it was because it wasn't even something to be called a relationship. He didn't spend time with her, didn't care how she felt, didn't give her attention, both sexual and normal attention. It was always Chad's problems and issues And she found out she was being cheated on after that. It wasn't even what you'd call a relationship. She let go of it after she saw him talking on phone and didn't say anything about it to Chad. Because she wanted to find out who "she" was. When that option becomes available, it'll be a completely different situation. Will take a long while so it's okayI din't know why it's hard to accept for everyone. C7 look at sage face when she sees chad. If chad asked her, Sage would have fucked chad at front of mc.
Yeap ! Once a cheater, Always a cheater.