VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Jules_Papillon]

I think it's pretty clear Jill very much wants more with the MC, and will settle for being friends only if the MC makes it clear he's not into her romantically. Which is not to say that Jill is eager for sex, or that the would-be relationship would automatically last. I'm just saying that Jill would prefer to start dating the MC in a formal sense and would probably have proposed it in Episode 6 but for Tybalt's blackmail.

Honestly, I still don't see it. While what you describe is true for Sage, I don't have that impression for Jill. Maybe I'll do another speed run to check it out.

"SHE" - There is Jill's problem, right there, the word "SHE" . I guarantee you if it was a HE, Jill will not be disappointed. But since it's another "Bitch"- Jill not like the MC's generousness. Simple is that. .

Good point.

To be fair to Jill (even though I just finished saying she was a fucking cow earlier), she had a lot on her mind. She'd given in to Tybalt's blackmail so she was already going against it to take the mc out on a birthday picnic. She'd put together a nice picnic basket and had a plan to take the mc to a place that was special to her. She had Tybalt's blackmail at the back of her mind (or even forefront of her mind) and then the mc blows her off, for another girl no less. Yeah, most girls would probably get upset about that.

That's right. If it had been a planned date. Shame on him.

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That doesn't sound like a big deal. But as I wrote, that's supposed to be the dilemma.

Not going to the Hangout with Sage also seems to only cost a few RP so far. On the other hand it might be a big thing for Sage if the MC is there for her when she needs him.

It's interesting that you can make all the wrong choices with Sage (or deliberately have nothing to do with her) until episode 7 and the relationship can still blossom into full force across the span of one episode (Sage is a free agent and she's not wasting time). I don't know what that means for other relationships. Are they crossing a path of no return yet, where if we've missed the boat there won't be another?

It's hard to say:

• The Cathy/Bella situation doesn't look good. It sounded very final (and while you see Bella looking at her ring in the prologue, she doesn't remove it).
• If you don't choose Jill over Sage in episode 6, it has an impact on a lot of what she thinks and does in episode 7.
• Strangely enough, if you don't choose Sage, Sage doesn't really give a fuck at all after sending you an annoyed message (which no one ever saw but it was totally there).
• If you don't hook up with the M&J duo in episode 4, is that throuple ever on the cards again?
• Professing to Derek that you still have feelings for one of the girls makes it seem like there's a chance with that one girl, but what about the other girl? Is she off the table forever?
• Although she's not a love interest, it seems with Quinn, if we didn't start the ball rolling on the DIK roof back in episode 4, none of the Quinn scenes open up.

I think it is likely that wrong choices may well close a path.

But I can also well imagine that there are other second chances. With Maja and Josy, for example, I could imagine a separation and the MC must then choose a side.

Respectfully disagree. IMO :
First of All while I take responsibility with Derek, it was Him who Ruined the party. MC was like " I talked to Sage, they can't come with us, We done here , lets go ". It was Derek who Fucked up everything, " If they can't party with us, let's make sure, they wont party here ".
Then, Tybalt, Arrogant, Privileged disgusting behaviour toward, MC and then Bitch slap him. sorry but that is the "pussy Test". He deserve to be punched, and put in his place. That is not a Dik move , Its a pussy move if you dont do it.

I've also been annoyed that Derek can't be stopped. Stopping the party feels so unnecessary. Not to mention the consequences.

Meanwhile, I think it probably would have been appropriate to challenge Tybalt to a duel at dawn. He clearly threw down the gauntlet to the MC with that punch.

I think Jade is a Major DIK move because she is married and the mc is trying to find a teacher for the hell's week challenge. I'd prefer if it wasn't a major choice tbh so the mc could pursue Jade for fun without DIK/CHICK consequences or maybe the mc could pick between going out with Jade only for fun or for the hell's week challenge as well.

Right. The serious decision is made much later, when it comes to showing Derek the video.

The decision to get in the car with Jade is a moral one. A real Nice Guy simply wouldn't do it. But he wouldn't steal panties from the HOTs either.

And I feel like all relationships in this game that ultimately stick will involve a CHICK pathing at some point in route.

For now, that's true. But I wouldn't be surprised if you get problems later because you have to stand up for the LI, for example, but can't as a CHICK.

 

[JETracktor]

Right. The serious decision is made much later, when it comes to showing Derek the video.

This one should be a major choice I think. Being a DIK and show private video to every DIK or be a CHICK and respect Jade.
Just like mentioned before with the VIP pass - this one should be major choice too.

 

[Hermith]

For now, that's true. But I wouldn't be surprised if you get problems later because you have to stand up for the LI, for example, but can't as a CHICK.

Most of my blind playthroughs ended up with the mc being a neutral/chick guy. As others already mentioned, there are choices that doesn't really make sense on the mature/nice guy - confident/bad boy scale. For an example my mc wouldn't console Steve and wouldn't back down from a fight with the Alphas, just because that would be the "more mature" option. The neutral confident/nice guy route sounds way better then the two "extremes".

 

[The Pink Royce]

7k pages. is this game really that good lol?

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[ChipLecsap]

Honestly, I still don't see it. While what you describe is true for Sage, I don't have that impression for Jill. Maybe I'll do another speed run to check it out.


Good point.


That's right. If it had been a planned date. Shame on him.

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I've also been annoyed that Derek can't be stopped. Stopping the party feels so unnecessary. Not to mention the consequences.

Meanwhile, I think it probably would have been appropriate to challenge Tybalt to a duel at dawn. He clearly threw down the gauntlet to the MC with that punch.

exactly. Letting Derek do the thing or Stopping him, would feel more like a natural " Major choice".

than , Tybalt, comes toward to you and talk to you the way He Talk, like you are some lesser human being, below him, this fucking entitled, privileged asshole he is. and Then He, He is the one who Salp you, and the way He slap. and I should Walk away ? like a Pussy, and not put him in his place.


First of All, Jill Allowed ME to come whenever I want to come.

It's not even your Property, it's the Preps, you might be the president now, but the house is till not yours

Yeah, this is the right decision, boys, walking away, . like a piece of Garbage


Oh, what else we can do? Hmm, Yeah Putting him in to his place


Don't talk shit Tybie, if you can't back it up.

 

[Jules_Papillon]

Most of my blind playthroughs ended up with the mc being a neutral/chick guy. As others already mentioned, there are choices that doesn't really make sense on the mature/nice guy - confident/bad boy scale. For an example my mc wouldn't console Steve and wouldn't back down from a fight with the Alphas, just because that would be the "more mature" option. The neutral confident/nice guy route sounds way better then the two "extremes".

It is difficult to classify subjective decisions objectively.

Comforting a dick like Steve is no doubt a nice guy gesture. After all, Steve is a (fictional) human being and even a tough guy can show empathy.

Fighting the alphas is fun and can feel right. It's just that without the whole group dynamic, even Dawe is actually okay. At the HOT party, for example, he just wants to have fun with Anthony.

I think choices like this are meant to provide some balance.

Letting Derek do the thing or Stopping him, would feel more like a natural " Major choice".

The only problem with that is that it would break the story. If Derek were stopped, the MC would have no confrontation with Tybalt and he would have nothing to blackmail Jill with.

And I would be really disappointed if Tybalt got away with that without any consequence.

 

[Malicre]

She's not completely DIK route though, you can be CHICK and give up on the M&J romance to do her scene, and then not show the sex tape. And from these last 2 updates you can see the setups for more of a relationship then them just fucking. She missed the MC and they have a deeper talk about stuff. And yeah of course she's married, but clearly not happily married.

And I feel like all relationships in this game that ultimately stick will involve a CHICK pathing at some point in route.

Exactly. Too many people around here look at the game as only being 2 paths and that's not the case. Outside of Maya/Josey, nothing else is locked out if i recall correctly (maybe some quinn stuff too?). Gotta love everyone assuming if your a DIK your sleeping with every girl.

 

[BigiE1993]

On a side note to all these thought provoking conversations does anyone see a way where you can in the end be with both Jill and Bella. Don't have to think so hard on the subject. Just curious to see if people think it can be a possibility. Would be my dream ending to this game.

 

[Malicre]

On a side note to all these thought provoking conversations does anyone see a way where you can in the end be with both Jill and Bella. Don't have to think so hard on the subject. Just curious to see if people think it can be a possibility. Would be my dream ending to this game.

Not gonna happen, DPC could make you choose between saving one of them in a house fire like in his previous game tho.

 

[BigiE1993]

Not gonna happen, DPC could make you choose between saving one of them in a house fire like in his previous game tho.

Good one. I still haven't played acting lessons but I heard about that and that's fucked.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

On a side note to all these thought provoking conversations does anyone see a way where you can in the end be with both Jill and Bella. Don't have to think so hard on the subject. Just curious to see if people think it can be a possibility. Would be my dream ending to this game.

Judging from Acting Lessons, no way. I had to replay the whole game because I did not getting the good end with Megan even though I kinda ended up with her. She learned from Leah that I fooled around, broke it off, but wanted to remain friends to see where it may go in the future. So the best way in Delta Iota Kappa would probably be keeping a separate save for every girl you want to end up with.

 

[BigiE1993]

Judging from Acting Lessons, no way. I had to replay the whole game because I did not getting the good end with Megan even though I kinda ended up with her. She learned from Leah that I fooled around, broke it off, but wanted to remain friends to see where it may go in the future. So the best way in Delta Iota Kappa would probably be keeping a separate save for every girl you want to end up with.

Oh well. As I said it would be my "dream ending" cause I honestly think that it will only ever be a dream.

 

[Malicre]

Oh well. As I said it would be my "dream ending" cause I honestly think that it will only ever be a dream.

Be happy your getting an ending. I only want to end up with Jade or Heather and neither of those two are love interests. My guy is gonna end up alone.

 

[BigiE1993]

Be happy your getting an ending. I only want to end up with Jade or Heather and neither of those two are love interests. My guy is gonna end up alone.

That's tuff. I wouldn't mind ending with Jade although I would have to reverse it and make her submit to me. Not big into the femdom.

 

[Hermith]

That's tuff. I wouldn't mind ending with Jade although I would have to reverse it and make her submit to me. Not big into the femdom.

I have nothing against light femdom, but that mommy stuff creeps me out.

 

[Jules_Papillon]

Exactly. Too many people around here look at the game as only being 2 paths and that's not the case. Outside of Maya/Josey, nothing else is locked out if i recall correctly (maybe some quinn stuff too?). Gotta love everyone assuming if your a DIK your sleeping with every girl.

You have strong disadvantages as a CHICK with Quinn and as a DIK with Jill. With Bella you have small disadvantages as DIK.

However, in my opinion, this results from the personalities and desires of the girls.

Josy & Maja: Both are into women. Therefore it seems logical that they are more open-minded towards a more "feminine" MC. A bad boy doesn't fit here.

Jill: She is looking for her prince. The one and only who will put her on a pedestal because of her person and not because of her status. Hard shell and soft core could work here on the long run.

Bella: The MC awakens suppressed feelings and desires in her. She was a little wild herself in her younger years and understands that. But she also has solidified views about right and wrong and expects decent behavior.

Sage: She has a friendly and purposeful nature. But she also has emotional problems with her family, which is why she is rebellious. Emotionally she is still strongly attached to Chad so far and her interest in MC is mainly carnal. Even though it hasn't mattered much so far, she appreciates a DIK attitude.

Quinn: She certainly didn't have an easy childhood. Trust is punished and only the strongest survive. You can prove yourself to her if you show you can take her on. As a CHICK, you can't help her after the raid, which leads to disadvantages.

Affinity could play an increasingly important role in failing to take advantage of too many opportunities. On the other hand, decisions made so far could also make affinity less important.

 

[BigiE1993]

I have nothing against light femdom, but that mommy stuff creeps me out.

Same on the femdom. Don't mind light as in some dirty talk and letting her take control when it comes to riding and similar positions. As far as the mommy stuff can't remember if that is optional or not to have her rp that.

 

[Hermith]

Same on the femdom. Don't mind light as in some dirty talk and letting her take control when it comes to riding and similar positions. As far as the mommy stuff can't remember if that is optional or not to have her rp that.

It's "optional", but that just changes the word mommy to Jade in their lines. Which is kinda cheap.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

Same on the femdom. Don't mind light as in some dirty talk and letting her take control when it comes to riding and similar positions. As far as the mommy stuff can't remember if that is optional or not to have her rp that.

Mommy and Son are nicknames, which can be changed on the mobile.

 

[Ilhares]

Then, Tybalt, Arrogant, Privileged disgusting behaviour toward, MC and then Bitch slap him. sorry but that is the "pussy Test". He deserve to be punched, and put in his place. That is not a Dik move , Its a pussy move if you dont do it.
I don't agree with DPC idea of the morality system. So far there was literally one good example of Dik move, if you beat Troy, now that is a jerk move, a Dik move.

This is where I shall respectfully disagree.

Troy and Tybalt are in the same position as far as my MC is concerned. They've both been assholes to me, which is fine - nobody's required to be 'nice', but they both made the mistake of laying hands on my MC first. This is the same reason the Jocks got their asses kicked. You don't like me? Oh, boo hoo, how will I ever cope? (/sarcasm) If you lay a finger on me it's game time and you're catchin' hands.