felicemastronzo

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I think that Melanie and either Chad or Troy are really good childhood friends, who used to play a lot when they were little, later got separated, and got reunited at the college.

There is no reason for her to tell every hot except her good friend Sarah that she and Chad/Troy are good friends. If their friendship bond is really strong, then why can't she help her friend?

We can definitely conclude that Melanie had some kind of relation, either in past or present with Chad or Troy considering that she is helping them. She won't go that far as to get in trouble with Sage and help them for no special reason. It's not like Chad went to Mel and said:- Señorita, will you please help us? You look beautiful and hot so I thought you would help us...
She has no reason to say it, but no reason to hide it either.

but anyway it makes more sense that no one knows how deep this friendship goes (after all the HOTs know Chad, so it's not news that Melanie knows him)
 
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I just began her route a couple days ago and really stucked at that songs scene. I don't know. Feels like i have to stop and give up her route apparently. I am really confused and think doesn't want to push myself to think hard about what song should i advice her.
Since I studied music for a year, I say that the best choice should be "Choose Different songs". Jill asks whether the two songs she played fit well with each other, which they don't. Both songs have different feelings to it, and they don't match.

IMHO, choose different song is the best choice.

But I recommend you to create a save file for that scene. If this choice doesn't work, you can anytime go back and change the choice.
 

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Who says he doesn't know his mom's surname? It hasn't been told to us because it's not interesting. We don't even know the mc's surname, does that mean he doesn't know that either?
I don't know exactly common rules about surname in US but in my country if mother give birth with no official husband her child holds her surname. Since MC's parents wasn't maried MC could bear his mother surname.
 
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shazba

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I just began her route a couple days ago and really stucked at that songs scene. I don't know. Feels like i have to stop and give up her route apparently. I am really confused and think doesn't want to push myself to think hard about what song should i advice her.
Complimenting songs or contrasting songs, both are good ideas. It's just the mc's opinion. The choice is still Jill's, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
I don't know exactly common rules about surname in US but in my country if mother give birth with no official husband her child holds her surname. Since MC's parents wasn't maried MC could bear his mother surname.
Except the mom was already dead before his name was registered. I wonder what's typical in that situation...
 

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Well la di da, Mr. French man. I work full time and don't make as much per month as he does making that game. Must be nice to be able to scoff at 3 grand a month. I would kill to make that much making a game, which would not seem like work to me. Instead I slave away at hard physical labour to make less money than he does a month(in canadian no less, which is worth less than the american he's getting paid in).
Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
 

seniorboop

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Jill is absolutely not a shrimp, she is more some kind of massive woman, if she was not a Royce, i guess she could be a good MMA fighter.
With some training she could be a beast, a strong jaw to stand the punches, have you seen her tighs, she could crush your head with those, she is quite tall also.
Definitely not a little girly girl, more a deadly predator with a nice figure!
Absolutely. Jill is pretty much an Amazonian.

On the off chance DPC has her attend the DIK/HOT Halloween party he should absolutely have her go as a knockoff Wonder Woman.

In some scenes Jill seems so large she could register for the NBA Draft.
 

Jimayo

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Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
 

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Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
 
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shazba

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Mate that VN has only managed to put out 3 updates over 2 years and pulls in less a month than I did with my first job out of college.

AOA Academy is less than a year old with more patrons and monthly income than SG.

Your favorite slow burn VN is trash, hardly makes enough to be profitable, and will likely be abandoned before its conclusion for the reasons stated.

Im sorry to inform you of this. Highly profitable slow burn VNs do not exist.
Well la di da, Mr. French man. I work full time and don't make as much per month as he does making that game. Must be nice to be able to scoff at 3 grand a month. I would kill to make that much making a game, which would not seem like work to me. Instead I slave away at hard physical labour to make less money than he does a month(in canadian no less, which is worth less than the american he's getting paid in).
Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
 

seniorboop

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3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
Lol exactly, even being generous and allowing that to be post-tax income its only 36K/yr (and recalling this was originally about Patreon income is is most definitely not post-tax which makes it even worse).

A $36000/yr job wouldnt get me out of bed in the morning
 

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Who says he doesn't know his mom's surname? It hasn't been told to us because it's not interesting. We don't even know the mc's surname, does that mean he doesn't know that either?

Maniacs have been creating theories about Lynette's heritage because we don't know her surname, but nothing in the game points to there being some mysterious heritage, it's just wild, unfounded speculation. We know she's from a rich family who work in construction. There may be more details about that family, but none of it needs to hinge on her surname.

Now, if it turns out Lynette's surname is of great significance and part of a "big reveal", I'll be pissed, because the mc would of course know his own mom's surname! Supposedly Neil isn't the best storyteller, he fucks up punchlines and stuff, but he doesn't have Alzheimer's, he knows his wife's fucking surname...
Chekhov's rifle: if an author puts a weapon at the stage, someone must shoot it at the stage at some point of the play. Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link? It wouldn't make any sense if, after de writer has created that expectation, it turns out that MC´s mother is just a random girl from a random wealthy family unrelated with B&R, and Jill's sister another different girl whose disappearance don't have any repercussion in the plot.

I think (can be wrong, obviously) that this part of the plot is going to be something like Studio Ghibli's "From up on poppy hill": at some point, Jill and the MC are going to start suspecting that they actually are blood relatives so their love (if the MC is into Jill's path) is impossible. If, at the end ,that's true or there is another plot twist, well see.

But again, this kind of stories about lost relatives and the boy from a humble family being actually the heir to the fortune of a notorious and wealthy family, or something like that (the kind of soap-opera-style plot twist that this writer loves), is almost imposible to make plausible in a modern world with internet. If the MC wants to know more about his grandparents, uncles and cousins, he just need his smartphone and WIFI. The movie of Studio Ghibli is set in the 60's.
 
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Jimayo

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You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
Your minimum wage is significantly less than ours in most cases(it's 14 bucks an hour here). A large portion of your population makes less than 36k a year. You are an out of touch elitist douche.
 

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3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
Everyone would make more than the median income if they just worked harder. Hurr durr.
 
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dalli_x

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That's true; honestly never gave it that much thought, but I was skeptical about the MC's mother's surname being somewhat of a big deal to the point where DPC decided to keep it under wraps until a crucial point in the game where the reveal of her surname results in a revelation of MC being the heir to some big family or something.

But now, thinking about it, it's definitely true that no surnames are really mentioned aside from Rusty's and Jill's, since, after all, their identities are closely tied to B&R, together with Mona, whose surname was only really mentioned because her name was on an official spreadsheet regarding scholarships. It's highly likely that surnames won't play in big part in the progression of the story in that case, as you said.

On the off chance that they somehow end up doing something though, I'd much rather think that there might be a chance MC's surname is one from a powerful and wealthy family from like a century ago, that seemed to have lost its legacy somewhere down the line. They've hidden riches across the state, and it's just that Neil never knew. If this were to come to light, I envision Bella, being the smart librarian she is, showing surprise and maybe even helping the MC with this whole fiasco. That'd be a long shot, but hey, still a possibility.

Otherwise, I might just be on board with your idea of the surname playing no significant role whatsoever until proven otherwise.
There are a lot of surnames mentioned. You just have to match them up.

Isabella Roberts (maiden name not known)
James Roberts
Jill Royce
Russel Burgmeister
Tybalt Burke
Jade Burke
Stephen Burke

What if Rox isn't Quinn's father's first name? :unsure:

Isabella went to a college named Smith & Readme (or something like that).:unsure:

Smith (Lynette) & Roberts (James)?:unsure:
 

dalli_x

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The first part of your comment I agree. Yeah that Jill was a Boss Bitch. :ROFLMAO: :cool:. and then who know what happened, but even without that flashback you kinda feel like she take a literal 180 shift in episode 6 , compared to how we know her before :unsure:

The second part however I don't agree. Jill does not have this radical change, later on , She looked "weird" right from the beginning, way before DPC has better equipment and started "experimenting" with diferent lighting, or make-up, lipstc, eye shadow etc.:ROFLMAO: .
It is just more noticeable with her, because She was weird looking always. She was always was this person,who can look extremely beautiful and then extremely weird. I post the weird ones first :p

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Okay, She impersonating Bella here, so...:ROFLMAO:
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But, Here I legit believed for a while she is a Vampire or a Succubus or something, and that will be her story twist:ROFLMAO:
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Take a thought with the pictures and the story line with. A jumbled time line of 1-3-2-4 years.
 
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