JETracktor

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There are a lot of surnames mentioned. You just have to match them up.

Isabella Roberts (maiden name not known)
James Roberts
Jill Royce
Russel Burgmeister
Tybalt Burke
Jade Burke
Stephen Burke
Cathy?
Mona?
Also possibly Chad and Anthony (DPC used standard daz basketball kit for them but what if).

And don't you dare to forget KRJ :KEK:
 

shazba

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Chekhov's rifle: if an author puts a weapon at the stage, someone must shoot it at the stage at some point of the play. Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link? It wouldn't make any sense if, after de writer has created that expectation, it turns out that MC´s mother is just a random girl from a random wealthy family unrelated with B&R, and Jill's sister another different girl whose disappearance don't have any repercussion in the plot.

I think (can be wrong, obviously) that this part of the plot is going to be something like Studio Ghibli's "From up on poppy hill": at some point, Jill and the MC are going to start suspecting that they actually are blood relatives so their love (if the MC is into Jill's path) is impossible. If, at the end ,that's true or there is another plot twist, well see.

But again, this kind of stories about lost relatives and the boy from a humble family being actually the heir to the fortune of a notorious and wealthy family, or something like that (the kind of soap-opera-style plot twist that this writer loves), is almost imposible to make plausible in a modern world with internet. If the MC wants to know more about his grandparents, uncles and cousins, he just need his smartphone and WIFI. The movie of Studio Ghibli is set in the 60's.
I don't get it.

The writer has told us about heaps of things. There's so many unknown details, does the existence of unknown details as well as the existence of the mc's dead mom backstory have to all be linked?

Why is Jill's sister's story somehow inexplicably linked to the mc's dead mom? Because they are both dead? We now know they aren't one in the same person (a lot of us knew that from the start but there were plenty of stubborn people that would not accept it), so basically it's just unrelated information.

The backstories are relevant in their own context, but there's no obvious link to each other. It's definitely not "Chekhov's Gun". If that's how "Chekhov's Gun" was to be interpreted, it would mean every loose end must be all interrelated because the writer wrote it:
  • We've been told about Maya's dad - maybe he's Lynette's brother...
  • We randomly met Nora in a pub - maybe she's Lynette's sister...
  • We've been given vague information about Sage's parents - maybe Lynette's not dead and she's Sage's mom...
  • We've been told that Bella inherited her home from wealthy parents - maybe she's actually Lynette after faking her death and having a face lift...
  • We haven't blatantly seen Quinn's mom (I believe we have but it's debateable) - maybe Lynette was living a double life and she's Quinn's mom too...
  • Who's sending incriminating photos to the Jocks? - Maybe it's Lynette's ghost...
  • What's behind Bella's locked door? - Maybe it's something to do with Lynette...
  • Who was skulking outside the MC's room in episode 6? - Maybe Lynette isn't dead and she's stalking the mc...
  • Who trashed the DIKs mansion? - Maybe it was Lynette trying to get the mc's attention...
  • How did Lana die? - Maybe she and Lynette were friends Lana committed suicide when Lynette died giving birth to the mc...
  • Who is the Madame? - Maybe it's Lynette's mom fallen on hard times (since the Madame looks like an old hag)...
  • Jill's sister Lana was mentioned, the mc's mom Lynette was mentioned - maybe they are intertwined somehow...
All of the above must be true otherwise why did the writer write about them? No. Everything written in the story does not have to be interrelated. The backstory of one character is used to define that character. When we learn about Jill's dead sister we learn more about Jill.

"Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link?"

The absolute misconception here is that DPC ever suggested that there could be some kind of link.

It's only people on this thread that continuously believe there was a link and propagate that theory until people think it is real. There's nothing in the story that suggests there's a link at all.

First some people were 100% convinced that Jill's dead sister was the mc's mom. Why? Because they both died young and they both came from wealthy families. Too bad people kept providing plenty of evidence to the contrary, but those "Aunt Jill" theorists would not let up.

Now we find out for a fact that they are two separate people, and instead of saying, "Fuck, we were definitely barking up the wrong tree with that theory", these crazy doomsday theorists just change the date of Judgement Day, rather than realise they are totally fucking wrong.

It's not impossible that Lynette was somehow known to Bella or Jill's sister, just like it's not impossible for a lot of other substantiated, currently not even remotely alluded to outcomes could be true, but it's not Chekhov's Gun, not even remotely. If you listen carefully you can hear Anton Chekhov turning in his grave right now at the blatant misuse of his theory.
 

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It was Nick who being drunk blabbered about Tommy's fucking someone without Heather permission.
Ah alright I probably misinterpreted it then.
That Melanie scene is easily top 5 at the very least.

I am willing to die on this hill rubes
Very nice scene indeed.
Quinn stuck it in too deep for Riona and then the candy cane fell out later at the Cathy Cluck party. :unsure: :ROFLMAO::love:
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That's why I put it in the ass, this way it doesn't fall out that easy
 
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obitus

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episode 7 ending tho, I knew that there was something about chad but troy ? Damn that plot twist, it reminds me the ending of episode 3, that made me jump :LOL:
 

Kellermann

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And What I wanna know is, why is this guy smiling and excited!? :ROFLMAO:
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And he's a little too close for comfort to the dude in front of him. Is he going to whisper sweet nothings in his ear, give him a wet willy?

But I recommend you to create a save file for that scene. If this choice doesn't work, you can anytime go back and change the choice.
You're definitely right, but if a game choice like that makes a huge difference (as far as getting the "good" content, or rather, missing out on it) then that's the kind of thing that annoys me about BaDIK's story branch logic. We have no indication what the correct choice should be. We just don't know enough about the concert, the audience, or even Jill at that point in the game. It would be worse than the Bella-canceling choice to have dumbass forgetful Cathy spit polish you in the car because at least with that situation you know any time you pursue more than one girl (M/J aside), DPC isn't going to like it. He will punish you eventually, but this trait of his has been clearly established by now. If you're going to make a branching choice that could potentially hide desired outcomes (heh) in an AVN, then there needs to be enough information to make an informed decision.
 
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dalli_x

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I don't get it.

The writer has told us about heaps of things. There's so many unknown details, does the existence of unknown details as well as the existence of the mc's dead mom backstory have to all be linked?

Why is Jill's sister's story somehow inexplicably linked to the mc's dead mom? Because they are both dead? We now know they aren't one in the same person (a lot of us knew that from the start but there were plenty of stubborn people that would not accept it), so basically it's just unrelated information.

The backstories are relevant in their own context, but there's no obvious link to each other. It's definitely not "Chekhov's Gun". If that's how "Chekhov's Gun" was to be interpreted, it would mean every loose end must be all interrelated because the writer wrote it:
  • We've been told about Maya's dad - maybe he's Lynette's brother...
  • We randomly met Nora in a pub - maybe she's Lynette's sister...
  • We've been given vague information about Sage's parents - maybe Lynette's not dead and she's Sage's mom...
  • We've been told that Bella inherited her home from wealthy parents - maybe she's actually Lynette after faking her death and having a face lift...
  • We haven't blatantly seen Quinn's mom (I believe we have but it's debateable) - maybe Lynette was living a double life and she's Quinn's mom too...
  • Who's sending incriminating photos to the Jocks? - Maybe it's Lynette's ghost...
  • What's behind Bella's locked door? - Maybe it's something to do with Lynette...
  • Who was skulking outside the MC's room in episode 6? - Maybe Lynette isn't dead and she's stalking the mc...
  • Who trashed the DIKs mansion? - Maybe it was Lynette trying to get the mc's attention...
  • How did Lana die? - Maybe she and Lynette were friends Lana committed suicide when Lynette died giving birth to the mc...
  • Who is the Madame? - Maybe it's Lynette's mom fallen on hard times (since the Madame looks like an old hag)...
  • Jill's sister Lana was mentioned, the mc's mom Lynette was mentioned - maybe they are intertwined somehow...
All of the above must be true otherwise why did the writer write about them? No. Everything written in the story does not have to be interrelated. The backstory of one character is used to define that character. When we learn about Jill's dead sister we learn more about Jill.

"Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link?"

The absolute misconception here is that DPC ever suggested that there could be some kind of link.

It's only people on this thread that continuously believe there was a link and propagate that theory until people think it is real. There's nothing in the story that suggests there's a link at all.

First some people were 100% convinced that Jill's dead sister was the mc's mom. Why? Because they both died young and they both came from wealthy families. Too bad people kept providing plenty of evidence to the contrary, but those "Aunt Jill" theorists would not let up.

Now we find out for a fact that they are two separate people, and instead of saying, "Fuck, we were definitely barking up the wrong tree with that theory", these crazy doomsday theorists just change the date of Judgement Day, rather than realise they are totally fucking wrong.

It's not impossible that Lynette was somehow known to Bella or Jill's sister, just like it's not impossible for a lot of other substantiated, currently not even remotely alluded to outcomes could be true, but it's not Chekhov's Gun, not even remotely. If you listen carefully you can hear Anton Chekhov turning in his grave right now at the blatant misuse of his theory.
How about a new theory about Lynette?

Lynette's Dad is an ass, we know that. He had something against Neil, too, because of the class difference. (y)

What if Neil wasn't even there at the birth?:unsure:
Here it comes. Lynette faints during the birthing process. She gives birth to discordant twins. Lynette's father tells Neil that Lynette has died. Neil logically wants to have his child with him. Custody suit. Since they are twins, the father gives Neil the MC. To Lynette, the father says that Neil died in a construction accident and that unfortunately one twin did not survive.:eek::rolleyes:

One day in the distant future (19 years later) two guys face each other in the ring, ready to give everything for the victory. In the gym, of course, sit the spectators. All of a sudden, Lynette discovers Neil and Neil discovers Lynette. "Dad said you were dead." "Your father told me you died giving birth to our son". They look back to the ring and cheer for their son. Neil calls out "MC" and Lynette calls out "Caleb." Oops.:eek::ROFLMAO:
 

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How about a new theory about Lynette?

Lynette's Dad is an ass, we know that. He had something against Neil, too, because of the class difference. (y)

What if Neil wasn't even there at the birth?:unsure:
Here it comes. Lynette faints during the birthing process. She gives birth to discordant twins. Lynette's father tells Neil that Lynette has died. Neil logically wants to have his child with him. Custody suit. Since they are twins, the father gives Neil the MC. To Lynette, the father says that Neil died in a construction accident and that unfortunately one twin did not survive.:eek::rolleyes:

One day in the distant future (19 years later) two guys face each other in the ring, ready to give everything for the victory. In the gym, of course, sit the spectators. All of a sudden, Lynette discovers Neil and Neil discovers Lynette. "Dad said you were dead." "Your father told me you died giving birth to our son". They look back to the ring and cheer for their son. Neil calls out "MC" and Lynette calls out "Caleb." Oops.:eek::ROFLMAO:
 
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OFT

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Does anyone know where I can download the individual installs for Episodes 1, 2, & 3? I have the installs for 4 through 7, but I'm trying to satisfy a curiosity and all I can find is the latest episode.
 

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Does anyone know where I can download the individual installs for Episodes 1, 2, & 3? I have the installs for 4 through 7, but I'm trying to satisfy a curiosity and all I can find is the latest episode.
Ep 7 contains all 1-6 episodes
 

Warscared

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You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
so what you are saying is that if you lived in another place you would be getting payed minimum wage... that you are absolutely normal, ordinary, nothing extraordinary at all! and yet by cheer luck to be born where you were you make twice as much as a surgeon in eastern Europe! i am pretty sure you are one of those whiners bitching about billionaires instead of doing something about it(and unlike the commie Jimayo i mean get to work and make your own billion not hunt them down with pitchforks just because they used their talents more efficiently then you)! resentful prideful and with 0 skills to be worth more then what regular employers pay for body present workers...

you make 3 times more then i do! but i choose to earn what i make and enjoy what i am doing with no little stress and meeting new people all the time and as someone whose previous functions could earn me 20-30k a month when you measure yourself by money money owns you not the other way around, money just happens to be a very nice commodity that allows you to think you´re the boss... reminds me of my ex-wife she was truly nice letting me think my life was my own and not just something in her purse that she used as she pleased no higher in her priority chain then her lipstick and certainly not as important as her cell phone... that i bought and payed every month... you need to reassess your values and what you want out of life if you need to brag in an internet forum about how much you make! but then again when you have nothing left going for you except your income ... i mean get some friends and have a few beers ... oh right you might be so insuferable that all your friends work with you and half of them already moved to other companies and departments!

as a concerned citizen use some of your money and get a psychologist because when you step down on people it means your brain is telling you that you are suffering and emotional pain is still pain so if a flame hurts you and you remove your hand why wouldn´t you remove your hand from whatever is causing you psychological and emotional anxiety and pain

this is also for half of the dudes on this site and i did my good deed of the day now back to battle to kill my enemies wife´s enslave their children and rape my enemies... herm i mean kills my enemies children enslave their women and rape them.... crap something like that!


How about a new theory about Lynette?

Lynette's Dad is an ass, we know that. He had something against Neil, too, because of the class difference. (y)
freaking hell with this game shitting on parents because they try and help their kids from making stupid mistakes! dads are just 18 year olds with around 20 to 30 years experience so stop shitting on parents!

the way we see Neil behave 95% of people will assume Neil was on drugs (and they are probably right) ! if your 18 year old daughter is dating a junkie construction worker will you not step in?

Besides even if he was an ass he was right... you know how i know he was right?

SHE FUCKING DIED!
 
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OFT

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How about a new theory about Lynette?

Lynette's Dad is an ass, we know that. He had something against Neil, too, because of the class difference. (y)

What if Neil wasn't even there at the birth?:unsure:
Here it comes. Lynette faints during the birthing process. She gives birth to discordant twins. Lynette's father tells Neil that Lynette has died. Neil logically wants to have his child with him. Custody suit. Since they are twins, the father gives Neil the MC. To Lynette, the father says that Neil died in a construction accident and that unfortunately one twin did not survive.:eek::rolleyes:

One day in the distant future (19 years later) two guys face each other in the ring, ready to give everything for the victory. In the gym, of course, sit the spectators. All of a sudden, Lynette discovers Neil and Neil discovers Lynette. "Dad said you were dead." "Your father told me you died giving birth to our son". They look back to the ring and cheer for their son. Neil calls out "MC" and Lynette calls out "Caleb." Oops.:eek::ROFLMAO:
I'm outta here.gif
 

`Ray`

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Does anyone know where I can download the individual installs for Episodes 1, 2, & 3? I have the installs for 4 through 7, but I'm trying to satisfy a curiosity and all I can find is the latest episode.
Well There is an individual install only available for Ep1 and not the rest.
This is 1.19Gb

This is free...
 
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Nattrack

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I don't get it.

The writer has told us about heaps of things. There's so many unknown details, does the existence of unknown details as well as the existence of the mc's dead mom backstory have to all be linked?

Why is Jill's sister's story somehow inexplicably linked to the mc's dead mom? Because they are both dead? We now know they aren't one in the same person (a lot of us knew that from the start but there were plenty of stubborn people that would not accept it), so basically it's just unrelated information.

The backstories are relevant in their own context, but there's no obvious link to each other. It's definitely not "Chekhov's Gun". If that's how "Chekhov's Gun" was to be interpreted, it would mean every loose end must be all interrelated because the writer wrote it:
  • We've been told about Maya's dad - maybe he's Lynette's brother...
  • We randomly met Nora in a pub - maybe she's Lynette's sister...
  • We've been given vague information about Sage's parents - maybe Lynette's not dead and she's Sage's mom...
  • We've been told that Bella inherited her home from wealthy parents - maybe she's actually Lynette after faking her death and having a face lift...
  • We haven't blatantly seen Quinn's mom (I believe we have but it's debateable) - maybe Lynette was living a double life and she's Quinn's mom too...
  • Who's sending incriminating photos to the Jocks? - Maybe it's Lynette's ghost...
  • What's behind Bella's locked door? - Maybe it's something to do with Lynette...
  • Who was skulking outside the MC's room in episode 6? - Maybe Lynette isn't dead and she's stalking the mc...
  • Who trashed the DIKs mansion? - Maybe it was Lynette trying to get the mc's attention...
  • How did Lana die? - Maybe she and Lynette were friends Lana committed suicide when Lynette died giving birth to the mc...
  • Who is the Madame? - Maybe it's Lynette's mom fallen on hard times (since the Madame looks like an old hag)...
  • Jill's sister Lana was mentioned, the mc's mom Lynette was mentioned - maybe they are intertwined somehow...
All of the above must be true otherwise why did the writer write about them? No. Everything written in the story does not have to be interrelated. The backstory of one character is used to define that character. When we learn about Jill's dead sister we learn more about Jill.

"Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link?"

The absolute misconception here is that DPC ever suggested that there could be some kind of link.

It's only people on this thread that continuously believe there was a link and propagate that theory until people think it is real. There's nothing in the story that suggests there's a link at all.

First some people were 100% convinced that Jill's dead sister was the mc's mom. Why? Because they both died young and they both came from wealthy families. Too bad people kept providing plenty of evidence to the contrary, but those "Aunt Jill" theorists would not let up.

Now we find out for a fact that they are two separate people, and instead of saying, "Fuck, we were definitely barking up the wrong tree with that theory", these crazy doomsday theorists just change the date of Judgement Day, rather than realise they are totally fucking wrong.

It's not impossible that Lynette was somehow known to Bella or Jill's sister, just like it's not impossible for a lot of other substantiated, currently not even remotely alluded to outcomes could be true, but it's not Chekhov's Gun, not even remotely. If you listen carefully you can hear Anton Chekhov turning in his grave right now at the blatant misuse of his theory.
Chekhov's gun means that an author should not introduce superfluous elements into a story. If Jill's sister is not related with the MC, why the author is talking us about her in the first place? Why to introduce ANOTHER death character into the plot, if that character is not going to be relevant for the plot? And remember: the plot is about the MC. He´s the center of the game: Main Character. Not Jill. Jill`s story is only relevant if affects the MC.
 

shazba

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Besides even if he was an ass he was right... you know how i know he was right?

SHE FUCKING DIED!
That's gotta be the most convincing argument in this thread! :ROFLMAO:

Chekhov's gun means that an author should not introduce superfluous elements into a story. If Jill's sister is not related with the MC, why the author is talking us about her in the first place? Why to introduce ANOTHER death character into the plot, if that character is not going to be relevant for the plot? And remember: the plot is about the MC. He´s the center of the game: Main Character. Not Jill. Jill`s story is only relevant if affects the MC.
Ok... You've somehow convinced yourself that Jill's sister has to be related to the mc and now everything else needs to support that.

Why does Lana need to be related to the mc? With your logic, why has any character been introduced into the game if they aren't related to the mc?

Jill is involved with the mc. Jill's sister further fleshes out Jill's character (her experience growing up, her rebellious sister, her sister's death, her strict parents, the expectations that Jill feels are forced on her). It's got fuck all to do with the mc other than the mc likes Jill.

You incorrectly linked Jill's sister with the mc's mom and now you can't let it go. Why didn't you link any other character with the mc's mom? There's no evidence of anyone being linked to the mc's mom other than the mc's dad and the mc (and the mc's parents).

James, Bella's (ex)husband: Why is the author talking to us about him if he's not related to the mc? He must be related to Lynette somehow? Why? No good reason at all. James expands Bella's character just as Lana expands Jill's character.

Lana's association with Lynette is just a crazy leap a lot of people made against all the evidence and now you seem to think it's the only reason Lana exists in the story. You're wrong.

Can you explain to me, with actual logic (and evidence if you can find it), why Lana has to be related to the mc but James does not? I mean think about it, realise they are examples of the same thing (backstories of characters the mc likes) and then realise characters' backstories don't have to tie in with the mc's family... :rolleyes:
 
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dalli_x

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so what you are saying is that if you lived in another place you would be getting payed minimum wage... that you are absolutely normal, ordinary, nothing extraordinary at all! and yet by cheer luck to be born where you were you make twice as much as a surgeon in eastern Europe! i am pretty sure you are one of those whiners bitching about billionaires instead of doing something about it(and unlike the commie Jimayo i mean get to work and make your own billion not hunt them down with pitchforks just because they used their talents more efficiently then you)! resentful prideful and with 0 skills to be worth more then what regular employers pay for body present workers...

you make 3 times more then i do! but i choose to earn what i make and enjoy what i am doing with no little stress and meeting new people all the time and as someone whose previous functions could earn me 20-30k a month when you measure yourself by money money owns you not the other way around, money just happens to be a very nice commodity that allows you to think you´re the boss... reminds me of my ex-wife she was truly nice letting me think my life was my own and not just something in her purse that she used as she pleased no higher in her priority chain then her lipstick and certainly not as important as her cell phone... that i bought and payed every month... you need to reassess your values and what you want out of life if you need to brag in an internet forum about how much you make! but then again when you have nothing left going for you except your income ... i mean get some friends and have a few beers ... oh right you might be so insuferable that all your friends work with you and half of them already moved to other companies and departments!

as a concerned citizen use some of your money and get a psychologist because when you step down on people it means your brain is telling you that you are suffering and emotional pain is still pain so if a flame hurts you and you remove your hand why wouldn´t you remove your hand from whatever is causing you psychological and emotional anxiety and pain

this is also for half of the dudes on this site and i did my good deed of the day now back to battle to kill my enemies wife´s enslave their children and rape my enemies... herm i mean kills my enemies children enslave their women and rape them.... crap something like that!



freaking hell with this game shitting on parents because they try and help their kids from making stupid mistakes! dads are just 18 year olds with around 20 to 30 years experience so stop shitting on parents!

the way we see Neil behave 95% of people will assume Neil was on drugs (and they are probably right) ! if your 18 year old daughter is dating a junkie construction worker will you not step in?

Besides even if he was an ass he was right... you know how i know he was right?

SHE FUCKING DIED!
Should I write joke before?:rolleyes:
At least two have understood it.;)
 
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Jill story is only relevant if affects the MC.
If you're on Jill's path, then Jill's story affects the MC, and Lana's story IS Jill's story. She's not superfluous.

Adding back stories adds depth to the characters. This would be a completely different and much lower quality game if all the characters except the MC possessed purely superficial personalities.
 
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