VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Deleted member 3313072]

That depends more on the story evolution than in the ammount of renders. And yet i didn't had that impression of episode 7. Some things like Chad being gay and Sage helping Maya felt more like key turning points rather than setups for future climatic moments.
About the last update the thing that got me worried is that general estimation of 300 animation and 3000 renders. That ratio of 1/10 animation to renders is by far the highest of all the game. Since animations are mostly porn and renders are more mixed up with the story, i am wondering if the porn is not going to swallow the story. I hope not, i love the porn but i also like the story.

Personally, and I've said this before, I'd rather have the story than the sex. The lewd stuff to me needs to make sense when it comes to the story and to be placed into the game at the right time rather than just there for those who want it to be there.

Perhaps I am in the minority there and I'm sure I am, but that's alright. We each get what we want from these games and this one is no exception.

 

[felicemastronzo]

He was such a machine during Episode 7 development and yet the episode itself honestly feels like a filler episode. A very good filler episode, but still feels like it existed only to set up the season finale

the fifth and the seventh chapters are dominated by the two huge free roams with lots of sexual marathons, which makes them quite "empty", but the seventh one for me is still the best chapter of the second season so far, it finally moves Josy's story that had stopped for a long time, although I didn't like the way it also moves the situation with Sage, while both Bella and Jill make some steps forward, only Maya is on the sidelines, but I still liked her content a lot (excluding of course the umpteenth explanation of her loan).

the fifth one was completely passing by, the sixth one has two very important moments for the story: the super mega explosion with Quinn, that in those terms I didn't expect at all, and the turning point with Jill for the blackmail of Tybalt (for me very bad, from the beginning to the end), but in spite of that I enjoyed very little

 

[Deleted member 3313072]

the fifth and the seventh chapters are dominated by the two huge free roams with lots of sexual marathons, which makes them quite "empty", but the seventh one for me is still the best chapter of the second season so far, it finally moves Josy's story that had stopped for a long time, although I didn't like the way it also moves the situation with Sage, while both Bella and Jill make some steps forward, only Maya is on the sidelines, but I still liked her content a lot (excluding of course the umpteenth explanation of her loan).

the fifth one was completely passing by, the sixth one has two very important moments for the story: the super mega explosion with Quinn, that in those terms I didn't expect at all, and the turning point with Jill for the blackmail of Tybalt (for me very bad, from the beginning to the end), but in spite of that I enjoyed very little

Hey felice, can you give me in a SPOILER here what happens in Ep. 7 with the blackmail? This is the only issue keeping me from returning to the game. It's not over yet, right? So, in a nutshell, what happens?

 

[ChipLecsap]

It's not all about animations and renders, there is coding, writing and other things as well and those are long.

"I've yet to write several big and important scenes, and it feels good that I've almost caught up my writing with the art."

He is yet to write those scenes, which I reckon will require a lot of writing and coding and simultaneously he has to produce the art.

I say that we can expect it by November.

I won't say, I know how time consuming the writing, coding, etc etc. But I dare to assume its less than the actual manual labor for renders and animations. the part you quoted is particularly interesting to me : I've almost caught up my writing with the art.".
I assume the way he works, is : He create the arts first, for example, the MC & Quinn "park date" or wherever they are. And after, or while those are rendering , HE write the actual dialog between them. . But I'm just guessing.
But there is also 2 interesting facts, he mentioned. The one is, he said it last week, some renders and animations takes longer to render than her originally anticipated, do to the environment and the number of characters.
and another thing he mentioned that he is creating "longer " animations, I assume they take longer to render too.
The Question is, what type of the remaining content are, lets say this 200 animation and 2000 render contain the hardest parts. and the remaining are easier task.

He was such a machine during Episode 7 development and yet the episode itself honestly feels like a filler episode. A very good filler episode, but still feels like it existed only to set up the season finale

I fully disagree with this statement. filler is like the DNG. - which i enjoyed anyway . But Episode 7 , moves every character and plenty storyline forward. the last thing you can say about it, is that it is a "filler episode "

 

[`Ray`]

One of those "big and important scenes" better be Sally's debut as D&G Dungeon Master, and he better get it right!

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It fucking better not happen. Honestly, D&G is such a shit that I never want it to happen again. It's just distracting with nothing interesting in it, and it also takes away previous development time, which DPC instead could have used to produce more story.

If he's gonna do it, then he better keep an option, Skip or Continue.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Hey felice, can you give me in a SPOILER here what happens in Ep. 7 with the blackmail? This is the only issue keeping me from returning to the game. It's not over yet, right? So, in a nutshell, what happens?

there's really a lot of content about Jill in the seventh chapter.

Staying strictly with blackmail:

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[ChipLecsap]

Hey felice, can you give me in a SPOILER here what happens in Ep. 7 with the blackmail? This is the only issue keeping me from returning to the game. It's not over yet, right? So, in a nutshell, what happens?

Tybalt asked Jill, to wore a bikini, and hold some watermelon while he take pictures. .

Seriously, there is nothing you need to worry about, it is very comedic relief the whole thing thanks to Bella who sabotaging, Tybalt's plan, in one case with the help of MC.
And Jill is masturbating, and imagining her first time having sex with MC while she hold a photo of him, and the next morning She ask MC to join her to a morning run, where She undress in front of him to bikini.

Jill's fans are the only one who has nothing to worry about

 

[drooopy]

Jill's fans are the only one who has nothing to worry about

tybalt's dick isn't even big enough to take away jill's virginity

i bet he's a premature ejaculator as well, he'll explode all over himself if he sees her naked

 

[ChipLecsap]

It fucking better not happen. Honestly, D&G is such a shit that I never want it to happen again. It's just distracting with nothing interesting in it, and it also takes away previous development time, which DPC instead could have used to produce more story.

If he's gonna do it, then he better keep an option, Skip or Continue.

I downvoted you

 

[ChipLecsap]

About the last update the thing that got me worried is that general estimation of 300 animation and 3000 renders. That ratio of 1/10 animation to renders is by far the highest of all the game. Since animations are mostly porn and renders are more mixed up with the story, i am wondering if the porn is not going to swallow the story. I hope not, i love the porn but i also like the story.

I don't worry about this, Not every animation is lewd animation, even the characters blink can be considering as animation . But better example is like Josy showing up in her Bikini in the Hots pool.. instead of 4-5 render of MC checking her out from toe to head, without a word, or a " Wow" line. We get a short animation where the camera showcased her beauty, and than back to the conversation imediatly.
I assume if there is a Gym workout with Josy, it will be similar, instead of 6-7 render, we get an animation of her working out. phillygames, often use this trick to. It makes even more "living " the game.

 

[Deleted member 3313072]

Tybalt asked Jill, to wore a bikini, and hold some watermelon while he take pictures. .

Seriously, there is nothing you need to worry about, it is very comedic relief the whole thing thanks to Bella who sabotaging, Tybalt's plan, in one case with the help of MC.
And Jill is masturbating, and imagining her first time having sex with MC while she hold a photo of him, and the next morning She ask MC to join her to a morning run, where is undress in front of him to bikini.

Jill's fans are the only one who has nothing to worry about

there's really a lot of content about Jill in the seventh chapter.

Staying strictly with blackmail:

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Yeah I won't do that choice for sure about not fighting for her. And I've seen the tennis scenes where you get DIK points each time for hitting him, but I'm full CHICK by mid 6th Ep. anyway so I probably couldn't do that even if I wanted to.

I appreciate the heads up felice & Chip. Thanks!

 

[`Ray`]

I downvoted you

Hmm, I don't see any....Liar

D&G is distracting, boring, waste of time. When I heard that there were X no. of animations in ep6, I was excited but later I realized that 60% of them were D&G and not a single one of them was good.

Jill's fans are the only one who has nothing to worry about

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[felicemastronzo]

I fully disagree with this statement. filler is like the DNG. - which i enjoyed anyway . But Episode 7 , moves every character and plenty storyline forward. the last thing you can say about it, is that it is a "filler episode "

before I wrote that the seventh is my favourite chapter and I confirm it, but it remains basically a filler

in the fillers it's normal that the main characters interact and then their story and their relationship evolve. it's not D&G....

But in summary very little happens.
the most important point is that Josy went to the HOTs

the relationship between Maya and Josy is shaken, but nothing happened one way or the other (both in the troupe and without)
Sage decides to talk to Maya, but still continues to believe Quinn (in a nonsensical way) and will try to help her (we don't even know what Maya told her)
MC says he doesn't want to be Sage's fuckbuddy anymore, but he still continues to be one
Bella and Jill postpone their big moment with MC (first time and first date)
Tybalt's blackmail has not yet ended.
Cathe will leave, but she's not gone yet
the revelation that Chad is gay will maybe be important in the next chapter, but in this one it was little more than a flash

there isn't much new

 

[ChipLecsap]

Yeah I won't do that choice for sure about not fighting for her. And I've seen the tennis scenes where you get DIK points each time for hitting him, but I'm full CHICK by mid 6th Ep. anyway so I probably couldn't do that even if I wanted to.

I appreciate the heads up felice & Chip. Thanks!

. A Chick path does not mean you don't take Dik points, it means Affinity is chick. You don't get negativity with Jill for hitting Tybalt in fact THX to Josy, she even laugh at it at the end of episode.

an Even bigger surprise to you, is the Scene I just posted, during the lake, when Jill strip to her bikini, if you look closer, you get Dik point, BUT Surprise !!! . You also get + Relationship With Jill, Because She like it when you check her out.

 

[Heycock]

I don't worry about this, Not every animation is lewd animation, even the characters blink can be considering as animation . But better example is like Josy showing up in her Bikini in the Hots pool.. instead of 4-5 render of MC checking her out from toe to head, without a word, or a " Wow" line. We get a short animation where the camera showcased her beauty, and than back to the conversation imediatly.
I assume if there is a Gym workout with Josy, it will be similar, instead of 6-7 render, we get an animation of her working out. phillygames, often use this trick to. It makes even more "living " the game.

You have a folder with every animation for each episode. You can check it if you want and see that until now 95% of animations of every episode are porn. In your example, Josy is in 18 animations in ep 7, 16 of them are porn. And thats a higher ratio than Camila for example.

 

[mpa71]

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Updated BigTable™ with the recent informations.
Now we have true numbers, compared to EP7, the Renders are 53% complete and Animations 80% done. DPC plans a 50% increase of total animations, so only 66% done. Based of the 2 recent episodes, there still an estimate development time of 1 month and 22 days (53 days -- 7 weeks); Early October.

Episode	Renders	Animations	Size	Release Date	Development Time
Episode 1	1301	51	≈1.1 GB	07 Feb 2019	000 days
Episode 2	1709 (+31%)	77 (+51%)	≈2.3 GB (+1.2 GB)	04 May 2019	087 (2 months, 28 days |≈12 weeks)
Episode 3	2289 (+34%)	99 (+29%)	≈4.1 GB (+1.8 GB)	16 Aug 2019	105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)
Episode 4	2532 (+11%)	134 (+35%)	≈6.1 GB (+2.0 GB)	10 Jan 2020	148 (4 months, 26 days |≈21 weeks)
Episode 5	2456 (-3%)	157 (+17%)	≈8.0 GB (+1.9 GB)	29 May 2020	141 (4 months, 20 days |≈20 weeks)
Episode 6	3336 (+35%)	162 (+3%)	≈11.1 GB (+3.1 GB)	13 Nov 2020	169 (5 months, 16 days |≈24 weeks)
Episode 7	3723 (+12%)	250 (+54%)	≈14.5 GB (+3.4 GB)	23 Apr 2021	162 (5 months, 11 days |≈23 weeks)
Episode 8	2000 (≈53%)	200 (≈80%)	>17.0 GB (+2.5 GB)	in development	113 (3 months, 22 days |≈16 weeks)

Complete Table with the help of Holy Bacchus† previous post. — Being a DIK in development since 2 years, 6 months, 7 days (30 months / 132 weeks / 919 days / 22,056 hours)

> Release Date Estimate:
Optimistic: Mid September 2021 (20 weeks) — Recent Average: Early October 2021 (24 weeks) — Growing Scenario: Early November 2021 (28 weeks)

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah I won't do that choice for sure about not fighting for her. And I've seen the tennis scenes where you get DIK points each time for hitting him, but I'm full CHICK by mid 6th Ep. anyway so I probably couldn't do that even if I wanted to.

I appreciate the heads up felice & Chip. Thanks!

one very important thing about Jill, not strictly related to blackmail, is that

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[OFT]

It fucking better not happen. Honestly, D&G is such a shit that I never want it to happen again. It's just distracting with nothing interesting in it, and it also takes away previous development time, which DPC instead could have used to produce more story.

If he's gonna do it, then he better keep an option, Skip or Continue.

Oh, it's distracting all right...



I know there are many others such as yourself that loathe D&G as a waste of time and resources. Personally, I find its lighthearted side story not only amusing (and sometimes laugh-out-loud funny), but it's more entertaining and believable than some of the scenes in the fuck-a-thons that some of the free roams are turning into. Honestly, the Becki scene (yes, I spelled it with an "I" because fuck you, Becky) was more useless than D&G, along with several others like it. That's not to say I didn't enjoy making her shut up the fun way.

You have a point about the SKIP option, though, and it would be a convenience when doing dedicated route playthroughs. However, it's pretty easy to escape out of it anyway (at least in the second D&G game) - all you have to do fuck up your choices three times and it's game over.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

That depends more on the story evolution than in the ammount of renders. And yet i didn't had that impression of episode 7. Some things like Chad being gay and Sage helping Maya felt more like key turning points rather than setups for future climatic moments.
About the last update the thing that got me worried is that general estimation of 300 animation and 3000 renders. That ratio of 1/10 animation to renders is by far the highest of all the game. Since animations are mostly porn and renders are more mixed up with the story, i am wondering if the porn is not going to swallow the story. I hope not, i love the porn but i also like the story.

I personally think not every new Episode has to outdone the previous episode render & animation wise in number, similar amount of render would just be fine. But now that there's no new feature being developed like previous episodes (Phone UI, Mansion fixing mini-game) and seeing those numbers & graph you got to ask why is it taking so long now

I won't say, I know how time consuming the writing, coding, etc etc. But I dare to assume its less than the actual manual labor for renders and animations. the part you quoted is particularly interesting to me : I've almost caught up my writing with the art.".
I assume the way he works, is : He create the arts first, for example, the MC & Quinn "park date" or wherever they are. And after, or while those are rendering , HE write the actual dialog between them. . But I'm just guessing.
But there is also 2 interesting facts, he mentioned. The one is, he said it last week, some renders and animations takes longer to render than her originally anticipated, do to the environment and the number of characters.
and another thing he mentioned that he is creating "longer " animations, I assume they take longer to render too.
The Question is, what type of the remaining content are, lets say this 200 animation and 2000 render contain the hardest parts. and the remaining are easier task.


I fully disagree with this statement. filler is like the DNG. - which i enjoyed anyway . But Episode 7 , moves every character and plenty storyline forward. the last thing you can say about it, is that it is a "filler episode "

Yeah maybe because I hoped Episode 7 would answer at least one whodunit sublopt which it didn't

 

[Deleted member 3313072]

one very important thing about Jill, not strictly related to blackmail, is that

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I never did that in any of my runs and free-roams, I 99.9% did everything CHICK, so I'm not too concerned about that, but thanks for the warning