VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[SteveyP]

by the way: it's a pity that the jealousy mechanism was only implemented in the seventh chapter, in theory it should have been triggered already when, eventually, Jill finds out that Bella hosted MC

There is actually a render during your date with Jill in Episode 4 where MC will tell Jill that Bella "Is... great" after telling her about staying with Bella and she will sorta look down at the ground trying not to make anything of your comment. Similar to the render where play the guitar for Bella and Jill in Episode 5 and you tell Bella you remembered her favorite song and Jill reacts to it. So it might actually be a thing.

I might go look for the renders but I'm sure that's what happened because it's one of the reasons why I created a play-through while pursuing both of them on a Chick run.

 

[felicemastronzo]

There is actually a render during your date with Jill in Episode 4 where MC will tell Jill that Bella "Is... great" after telling her about staying with Bella and she will sorta look down at the ground trying not to make anything of your comment. Similar to the render where play the guitar for Bella and Jill in Episode 5 and you tell Bella you remembered her favorite song and Jill reacts to it. So it might actually be a thing.

I might go look for the renders but I'm sure that's what happened because it's one of the reasons why I created a play-through while pursuing both of them on a Chick run.

I was referring precisely to those situations, it's obvious that Jill suspects something, admittedly it's less substantial evidence than Josy and Sage recognising MC's cock... but it's more temporally determined

 

[CHAD-MAN]

if you keep your distance on the first date you have in fact dumped Jill, she is aware that you will be 'just friends'.

As a matter of sincerity either Mc or Bella could talk to Jill about their relationship, but that's a venial sin.

the only chapter that might be more contained is the final chapter of epilogues, where there will be little to choose from, but only to cash in what we've earned

Are we sure thats not already being implemented now with choices like go with Jill or go with Sage? Choosing Maya over Josy? Pretty sure its being tracked, building up to implode in the MC face when the time comes... as a role-playing player who likes drama, I hope its soon.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Are we sure thats not already being implemented now with choices like go with Jill or go with Sage? Choosing Maya over Josy? Pretty sure its being tracked, building up to implode in the MC face when the time comes... as a role-playing player who likes drama, I hope its soon.

certainly there will be some 'variable' that takes this into account, but the jealousy mechanism started with the presentation of Tybalt

 

[Pendrell]

At the end of the day, BaDIK is a story, and a decent, fun story at that. If the readers were able to influence the story too much, they could walk away thinking it's a shit story, but then if they don't get to influence the story and don't enjoy where it's headed (saving Maya, suffering Jill, making out with middle-aged women in the library when all you intended to do was drop by and say hello), you may still walk away thinking it's a shit story.

It's a total balancing act, but at the end of the day, this is not our story to control, it's the mc's, we're just nudging him occasionally (“blowjob or anal… ” - that kinda thing).

I think so far he's managed the balancing act well, though it's going to become more and more difficult to pull off as the story progresses. At root the two elements he's balancing are in tension with each other - an unchangeable backbone story vs the choice/affinity system. Despite there being some constant elements to the MC's personality, I do think that by ep 7 a massive chick MC and a massive DIK MC (to use the most extreme contrast) are very different people, more so than just differences between lewd scene choices, and players will have different expectations of what they want from future episodes. From what I can gather DPC's intention seems to be to somehow pay off the branching choice variables, but in a way that doesn't impact the main story. Really tricky.

Let's take the MC's attitude to Quinn (of course!) as an example. If Quinn is intended to remain as an antagonist for the duration of the story then she will need to serve necessary narrative purposes in that role. But MC's different attitudes to Quinn can be diametrically opposed depending on the choices you've made. Either you consider her "evil", and in the Maya hangout in ep 7 MC will sympathise with her when she tells him about Quinn's antics; or, if you've been pursuing Quinn up to that point but (just for kicks) go to the Maya hangout in ep 7, MC basically defends/excuses Quinn's actions, saying it's just her sense of humor. These different "MC characters" are not compatible and it's going to be harder to reconcile them as we get deeper into the main story.

 

[Lostanddamned]

Got is the perfect example of what i just said. I said many people tend to stick with stuffs even if the quality is dropped, and while Got quality dropped, the Ratings or viewrship, how you like to call it , have never been better.

"Worst of all is that DPC hasn't written the story like he always claims, but makes it up as he goes"

Come on dude, let's not carried away. just because Davdr left us, does not mean you need to take his place with nonsense. . He said the story is maped is written, he know the key points and the endings, how we get there is what he is writing in each episode.And so far there is no reason for us to doubt on this.

And 6 years from now I will be 42 if I live through
But I honestly doubt it would take that long. Not every episode will be as big as episode 7 or 8. I think 16 episode will be it, even with 2 episode a year that's just 4 year..

Did he map the story though? That's questionable, because earlier we saw Tommy and Quinn injecting themselves with heroin or whatever it was (hell even using the same needle), but then 2 episodes later Quinn is shown hesitant about buying cocaine.

Same thing with the Bella library scene. The cry for help thing is mentioned just once and it's never mentioned again. DPC tried to come up with something as he went and then realized that it's too dark for the theme of this game and not wanting to be a one trick pony, now tries to work his way around it by not mentioning those stuff.

Stuff like these make me believe that he has literally one ending written (Jill, obviously) and everything else is going to be written on the spot as he goes.

Even if he does 16 episodes, October 2025 will be the last episode, if the pace remains the same.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Same thing with the Bella library scene. The cry for help thing is mentioned just once and it's never mentioned again. DPC tried to come up with something as he went and then realized that it's too dark for the theme of this game and not wanting to be a one trick pony, now tries to work his way around it by not mentioning those stuff.

That's a bit of assumption on your part. At this point we still don't know what he intended to do with Bella. There's no real progress with the whole what's hidden behind the door ? stuff so far. James' absence is still a grey zone. Something dark could still happen. Furthermore, he can come back to the famous lines in future episodes.

Stuff like these make me believe that he has literally one ending written (Jill, obviously)

I don't think so. By his own admission Jill is the latest LI he created because he realised he needed to put an additional character.

Let's take the MC's attitude to Quinn (of course!) as an example. If Quinn is intended to remain as an antagonist for the duration of the story then she will need to serve necessary narrative purposes in that role. But MC's different attitudes to Quinn can be diametrically opposed depending on the choices you've made. Either you consider her "evil", and in the Maya hangout in ep 7 MC will sympathise with her when she tells him about Quinn's antics; or, if you've been pursuing Quinn up to that point but (just for kicks) go to the Maya hangout in ep 7, MC basically defends/excuses Quinn's actions, saying it's just her sense of humor. These different "MC characters" are not compatible and it's going to be harder to reconcile them as we get deeper into the main story.

Overall, the locked affinity should drastically change the way he's gonna react to many things.

 

[Jimayo]

I got the vip pass at first, and then I regretted, because like many here, I thought I would get some action with some of the other strippers. But then I had no save to go back, so I simply used the mod to set that I didn't get the pass and added the $10 to the mansion.

I got the pass but I chose to go to the old folks home so it wasn't an issue.

 

[felicemastronzo]

At the end of the day, BaDIK is a story, and a decent, fun story at that. If the readers were able to influence the story too much, they could walk away thinking it's a shit story, but then if they don't get to influence the story and don't enjoy where it's headed (saving Maya, suffering Jill, making out with middle-aged women in the library when all you intended to do was drop by and say hello), you may still walk away thinking it's a shit story.

It's a total balancing act, but at the end of the day, this is not our story to control, it's the mc's, we're just nudging him occasionally (“blowjob or anal… ” - that kinda thing).

but isn't that already the case now?

if the story is good it's because of DPC, if the story doesn't make sense it's because of our bad choices.

I would say that this balance is not working very well. it is true that Mc MUST do certain things, otherwise we would move too far away from the story that DPC has in mind, but many times we are given the opportunity to do other things that the game clearly decides not to take into account.

We can be restaurant patrons, be just back from a threesome with Maya's main nemesis, but MC still has a meltdown at Josy's arrival.

we can have MC have sex with every HOTs available, and yet he's still worried that Sage won't take him seriously, that she'll just see him as a rebound

those are two pretty obvious examples involving important scenes in the game

but also the fact that an MC being intimate with Jade doesn't even question her in the problems Jill is having with her son to me represents a choice (having a relationship with Jade) that DPC decides to ignore in the plot.

 

[Killerwhale5678]

Can someone share the last status update

 

[ChipLecsap]

Yes, I mean DPC forces you to go on a date with Jill (that you/MC set up by the way) and even after that you still lead her on while you are fooling around with her best friend. You don't think Jill will be upset when she finds out you ditched her for Bella...or worse, you were pursuing Bella while dating Jill? Whether you have the option to fight for Jill in ep 7 or not, you're still doing her dirty. I'd like the option on a Bella CHICk run to just tell Jill early on (preferably before the date) that I'm not interested in you at all and I don't want to date you. Gotta get that drama though.

No, No , No, No, Wait a second . You not leading on Jill, unless you choose to do. Yes, you ask her out on a date, there is nothing wrong with that, that is not lead on. How you handle the Date is what matter. You dont shower with her, you dont kiss her , and She will make the conlusion to Bella, that MC is not intrested in her. Even MC say the line that, I don't think I'm interested in her after the episode 4 date.


And if you continue along this road, you reach the point in episode 6, when she won't ask you out for the birthday picnic , so you technically off from her path. DPC merely given us the setups for these paths, but it up to us whether we walk on it or not. for example it is mandatory for us to at least have sex with either Josy or Maya, but if you refuse, no matter the affinity they reject you anyway.
And you get the option to Fight for Jill, only if you are on her route, otherwise its not come up .

so Yeah you don't directly say " I'm not interested in you" , But you don't even need it.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

Wait, wasn't Jill the one who asked MC for a tennis date which is our first date with her? That kino scene where we made Josy jealous lmao

 

[Lostanddamned]

No, No , No, No, Wait a second . You not leading on Jill, unless you choose to do. Yes, you ask her out on a date, there is nothing wrong with that, that is not lead on. How you handle the Date is what matter. You dont shower with her, you dont kiss her , and She will make the conlusion to Bella, that MC is not intrested in her. Even MC say the line that, I don't think I'm interested in her after the episode 4 date.
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And if you continue along this road, you reach the point in episode 6, when she won't ask you out for the birthday picnic , so you technically off from her path. DPC merely given us the setups for these paths, but it up to us whether we walk on it or not. for example it is mandatory for us to at least have sex with either Josy or Maya, but if you refuse, no matter the affinity they reject you anyway.
And you get the option to Fight for Jill, only if you are on her route, otherwise its not come up .

so Yeah you don't directly say " I'm not interested in you" , But you don't even need it.

Chip is correct. On my Bella save, I went to the date with Jill (that's unavoidable, like the Josy date in episode 1) but rejected absolutely everything with her. Afterwards you don't get the picnic scene at the end of episode 6 or any of the Jill scenes in episode 7 (with the exception of Lana's flashback and the beanie Jill scene).

Though Jill's variables are confusing, there seems to be one after the date in episode 4 which shuts some scenes off, but it isn't fatal, then there's another one after episode 7 which shuts the whole thing off. Which really makes me wonder if the outcome of episode 7 is going to be different if you rejected her at first but then you started chasing her again.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Wait, wasn't Jill the one who asked MC for a tennis date which is our first date with her? That kino scene where we made Josy jealous lmao

MC ask her out, Jill is the one who set it up , or plan it, whatever the better word for it

 

[Deleted member 3080021]

What's the usual time between updates for being a dik?

 

[PashafromRussia]

The developer has a very difficult job. In episode 7, several mutually exclusive routes of character development appeared. And for each of them you need to write a scene.
It is not surprising that in the status update, DPC writes that there are 21 scenes left and it apparently concerns all possible roures of development, depending on the chosen solutions.
So,
1) Josy or Maya?
2) Jill or Josy? Jill and Josy become friends and this will become a problem if MC is on the path of a relationship.
3) Sage or Quinn?
4) Jill or Bella?
5) Jade or Bella? Bella will find out that her lover fucks Jade behind her back.
I believe that episode 8 will be the most dramatic of all. The girls will start fighting for the main character!

 

[znar25]

Over future chapters, the only way I can see the icemaker on the HOTs fridge to get fixed is if you are on the Sage or Quinn path. --- wear normal cloths --- OR ---sexy handyman cloths with toolbelt---

 

[`Ray`]

I don't think so. By his own admission Jill is the latest LI he created because he realised he needed to put an additional character.

I don't understand this... Did DPC ever said that Jill was added because he thought of an additional character? If yes, then did he make the whole story for Jill afterwards? Give me the source where he said this.

You won't have or find any because DPC did not add Jill, She was just revealed later. Read this Post to clear your doubts.

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[Room639]

The plot is slowly starting to thicken, and the MC will equally occupy himself banging girls and living life. Sounds pretty cool to me.

We're 7 episodes in an 2.5 years of production. I would hope for more than a bit of plot slowly beginning to develop after all that time.

 

[dalli_x]

DPC himself has written that he is finally creating a scene in EP8 that he has been looking forward to for 2 years.

Theory

In EP3 the MC goes to Jill to play her song on his guitar. When the MC enters the Preps Mansion once again, he sees a Rich talking on the phone. The phone conversation suggests that someone important to Rich may have passed away. Just before the MC makes the date with Jill perfect, Jill is interrupted by Tybalt. Jill was about to make a guess about the MC's origin. Take a look at Screeshot 1 and 2. Maybe the solution is in screenshot 2.

Possibilities
Related to Tybalt
Related to Richard
MC is rich
MC is a madman
MC is insane rich



This could then explain Josy and Maya's attire at the Spin the Dildo game in EP4. We know that on the MC date with Jill in EP4, the MC tells Jill all about his current emotional state. Jill learns that the MC is also attracted to Josy and is totally confused. Here comes my guess. Jill met with Josy and Maya and the three of them discussed this situation. Take a look at Josy and Maya's looks at the MC. Maya's looks at the MC with a hopeful look. Maybe she thinks that the MC can solve her tuition problems. Josy, on the other hand, somehow has a blank look. Maybe she learned that her mother is a native Royce (Lana) and the MC had a date with Josy and Jill. Stupid situation. But that could explain some strange scene in EP7. For example, why Josy asks the MC directly for Jill in the pool or why Josy says to Jill in EP7 after the presentation of Tybalt, where everyone can see the dick picture, that Jill has to fight for him. To me it sounds like Josy will hold back from a romantic point of view and give Jill the lead.



This would actually clarify why Josy is afraid of losing Maya and the MC. Maya has also fallen in love with the MC, I think there is no doubt about that. But if the MC decides for Jill, Maya might want to stay with the MC. I always think of the custom render picture in this context, how Josy, Jill and the MC are sitting in a cafe and Josy is holding hands with the MC. Unfortunately I can't show this picture because I want to keep my Patreon account.

Also, there might be a surprise in EP8 that maybe one or the other was at B&R college 2-3 years earlier. Screenshot 4. The guy behind Rusty left shoulder could be a Derek with glasses. There are several mentions of glasses in the game. Dani, Jamie's ex, also says she wears contacts because glasses make her look fat and she would have rather spent the $12 on hair dye instead of a pregnancy test. Sage also has great ideas for Halloween. We see in this screenshot maybe 5 people that are very important to EP8.



Just a few thoughts from my side. All just theory and conjecture to get the thread going again.