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yeah, not working for me, multiple header errors every time, something must have corrupted. Fuck this, I'll just download the full version.
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I need to get a little more serious.Nah. Beside the things I already said, the fundamental difference between AL MC and his Ex, and MC and Zoe. The Players would not buy it. You spend 8 episode or more, 2 years, building a relationship with Jill for example, and its lead to a kind of love confession, only to Zoe show up later, and Suddenly MC is confused ?! Nah. Especially because Zoe was not a lingering feeling for MC , That was Josy. Zoe was never brought up beside that one background Story, and that it was, nothing more just a background Story. MC never give any vibe that he has unfinished business or lingering feeling toward her. This was the fundamental difference between Zoe, and Best Girl aka Josy . IF MC and Zoe was that serious, MC would act differently, try to keep in touch with her, visit her etc etc. But they Drifted apart very peacefully, Zoe even have a new Boyfriend.
Josy on the othehand was the Someone who MC was not ready to let Go. That is Why her arrival shaked the things up, not just with Maya, but also with Jill. Something MC still find weird and freak out about, is the developing relationship between Jill and Best Girl . Especially if He is "Dating" both of them.
Zoe, may can return as a friend, visiting, and may be giving advice to MC, but even that would not feel natural for the Players. Because we do not have connection with Zoe.
Something like this could only work with someone like Sage. if Sage leave the game, and later many Chapter later she show up, that could cause believable "drama", but even that I think would be just like a Friend return to Help MC clear things up in his head.
In similar way like Anna returned to help Seth Cohen, in The O.C.
THIS IS NOT AL.
THIS THREAD IS FOR BEING A DIK.
DPC itself has written that Being a Dik cannot be compared to AL.
However, if Zoey is just a backstory, DPC has put in quite a lot of details. The many details actually show that it can't be a pure background story.
I also assume so that the appearance of Zoey, if the player wants it, will not destroy the existing relationship with another LI. It will just somewhat twirl the balls of the MC and/or the ovaries of a LI. Jealousy, in good measure, can be a spice of love.
When do you learn to appreciate something when you have something to lose. Maybe Zoey will trigger just that.
For my MC, Sage is just a good friend. Ergo, she will never become a danger and/or drama for another LI. Actually, she could become more of a danger and/or drama for the MC if more than just a friendship develops between Maya and Sage.
If the player chooses only friendship with the MC, Zoey automatically becomes a backup to trigger just such a drama.
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Then you just have to play it with the mod or start over, just Jill, the most CHICK of the girls.
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While I'm certainly not going to defend (objectively) the way BaDIK handled the Maya/Josy crisis in Episode 4, I do think it manages to beat out the... incident in AL.
- The BaDIK MC is at least a decade older. A teenager overreacting to a failed romance (even one that never got off the ground) is a lot easier to swallow than a ~30 year old becoming a recluse because a friend died tragically.
- We have far more control over the MC in BaDIK during his funk. Sure, the MC is still a moody git, but we get to make a few significant choices in between the forced actions - starting with the the three potential paths through the episode. We can advance alternative romances! We can rate asses! We can return to the Pink Rose and bang our distaff doppelganger! We can water plants! ... okay that last one may not actually be in BaDIK's favor. But I stand by the rest!
- The tone of the game is worlds apart. I said AL wallows in the misery it unleashes, and I meant it. The MC is a broken man looking back on events from two years down the line, apparently having little to no contact with his friends in that time. In BaDIK, the MC is in his funk for 2 days, and his friends and acquaintances are all trying to lift his spirits - Jill even succeeds! (Hell, much as I dislike Jade, I thought her heart to heart for MC on her path was excellent.)
- Sort of obvious, but the final act of AL was the end of the game, whereas Episode 4 was just the end of BaDIK's season. That means BaDIK had the chance to recover from its mistake, and by in large it has used that opportunity well (IMHO). For AL, there is no recovering from that faceplant.
- Most importantly, the crisis in BaDIK is entirely rooted in the game itself: the MC's journey to adulthood, with all the bumps and bruises that normally entails. The crisis in AL, on he other hand, isn't about the MC connecting with new friends, it's about a serial killer we never knew existed killing someone the MC likes because she's batshit crazy. Not only does this mean that BaDIK's twist is a surprise rather than a blatant asspull, it also means BaDIK is well positioned to deal with the ramifications of the twist in the future. AL, in contrast, became a totally different game (including the near complete removal of game mechanics) because it was forced to grapple with something completely alien to what it had been doing for the first 6 episodes.
Allow me to return the favor.
- "All that time" was a week and a half. She obviously couldn't visit until Maya was at B&R, and for most of the first week Josy was probably hoping her acceptance would arrive any day.
- She explicitly says she needs to talk the matter over with Maya before she joins the HOTs, and as far as we can tell Maya accepts the logic of her decision even if she doesn't like it. (Note that Maya does back off in class when Josy tells her not to take her frustrations out on her).
- What's to defend? Becky never said anything bad about Maya. We don't even know for sure that she was lying about not remembering Maya. I suppose you could argue this makes Josy look self-absorbed, but it's not like having a girlfriend means you can't spend time with other people.
- I mostly agree with this (though I think Josy intended to come clean to the MC and then decide what to do with his input), but I don't see how that counts as frivolous. While she was clearly thinking about ending the relationship, I see no evidence that Josy was doing so lightly.
- Ummm... Maya asked the MC to let Josy sleep in his room. She was afraid of Patrick returning when her guard would be down.
How would Zoey do that? I'd say the MC is already a lot more emotionally invested with the LIs than he was with Zoey (and a few of the side girls to boot). If he's still dating multiple girls when Zoey resurfaces, I doubt she'd make a dent in his thinking; more likely he'd just try and add her to his collection.
Besides, as ChipLecsap said, we already had this exact scenario in Episode 4. Sure, it was handled badly, but adding Zoey to the mix would not have solved the problems. (Plus, I feel like Jill's polaroid has claimed the role if we ever need an encore.)
I think if Zoey does return at a dramatic moment, it's more likely to be as a sounding board for the MC. She can give him objective advice while still knowing the MC and caring about his well being.
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Damn. That was what I thought. Would you mind pointing me in the direction of the mod you'd recommend?
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[Mod] - [Ren'Py] Being a DIK Walkthrough+Cheat Mod [v0.7.2][scrappy] | F95zone
I don't use mods personally, but from what I read this one is very good and it updates very fast with each release.
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He hasn't been in college long enough yet for the girls to notice they've missed their periods, especially at the rate everybody's partying.
See, people often imprint on their first sexual experiences. No wonder he's got a stocking fetish.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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I agree with you 100% on the first part.While I'm certainly not going to defend (objectively) the way BaDIK handled the Maya/Josy crisis in Episode 4, I do think it manages to beat out the... incident in AL.
- The BaDIK MC is at least a decade older. A teenager overreacting to a failed romance (even one that never got off the ground) is a lot easier to swallow than a ~30 year old becoming a recluse because a friend died tragically.
- We have far more control over the MC in BaDIK during his funk. Sure, the MC is still a moody git, but we get to make a few significant choices in between the forced actions - starting with the the three potential paths through the episode. We can advance alternative romances! We can rate asses! We can return to the Pink Rose and bang our distaff doppelganger! We can water plants! ... okay that last one may not actually be in BaDIK's favor. But I stand by the rest!
- The tone of the game is worlds apart. I said AL wallows in the misery it unleashes, and I meant it. The MC is a broken man looking back on events from two years down the line, apparently having little to no contact with his friends in that time. In BaDIK, the MC is in his funk for 2 days, and his friends and acquaintances are all trying to lift his spirits - Jill even succeeds! (Hell, much as I dislike Jade, I thought her heart to heart for MC on her path was excellent.)
- Sort of obvious, but the final act of AL was the end of the game, whereas Episode 4 was just the end of BaDIK's season. That means BaDIK had the chance to recover from its mistake, and by in large it has used that opportunity well (IMHO). For AL, there is no recovering from that faceplant.
- Most importantly, the crisis in BaDIK is entirely rooted in the game itself: the MC's journey to adulthood, with all the bumps and bruises that normally entails. The crisis in AL, on he other hand, isn't about the MC connecting with new friends, it's about a serial killer we never knew existed killing someone the MC likes because she's batshit crazy. Not only does this mean that BaDIK's twist is a surprise rather than a blatant asspull, it also means BaDIK is well positioned to deal with the ramifications of the twist in the future. AL, in contrast, became a totally different game (including the near complete removal of game mechanics) because it was forced to grapple with something completely alien to what it had been doing for the first 6 episodes.
Allow me to return the favor.
- "All that time" was a week and a half. She obviously couldn't visit until Maya was at B&R, and for most of the first week Josy was probably hoping her acceptance would arrive any day.
- She explicitly says she needs to talk the matter over with Maya before she joins the HOTs, and as far as we can tell Maya accepts the logic of her decision even if she doesn't like it. (Note that Maya does back off in class when Josy tells her not to take her frustrations out on her).
- What's to defend? Becky never said anything bad about Maya. We don't even know for sure that she was lying about not remembering Maya. I suppose you could argue this makes Josy look self-absorbed, but it's not like having a girlfriend means you can't spend time with other people.
- I mostly agree with this (though I think Josy intended to come clean to the MC and then decide what to do with his input), but I don't see how that counts as frivolous. While she was clearly thinking about ending the relationship, I see no evidence that Josy was doing so lightly.
- Ummm... Maya asked the MC to let Josy sleep in his room. She was afraid of Patrick returning when her guard would be down.
How would Zoey do that? I'd say the MC is already a lot more emotionally invested with the LIs than he was with Zoey (and a few of the side girls to boot). If he's still dating multiple girls when Zoey resurfaces, I doubt she'd make a dent in his thinking; more likely he'd just try and add her to his collection.
Besides, as ChipLecsap said, we already had this exact scenario in Episode 4. Sure, it was handled badly, but adding Zoey to the mix would not have solved the problems. (Plus, I feel like Jill's polaroid has claimed the role if we ever need an encore.)
I think if Zoey does return at a dramatic moment, it's more likely to be as a sounding board for the MC. She can give him objective advice while still knowing the MC and caring about his well being.
But you are also underestimating Zoey. Of course the MC is more emotional with the other LI's right now than with Zoey. But here's the thing.
Zoey has known the MC much, much longer and thus better than all the other LI's combined. It's a little over 3 years that Zoey has spent with the MC. No LI can come close to that amount of time. She has the potential to be a danger to the LI's.
It is solely up to the MC (player) to decide what the MC will or will not do with Zoey when she reappears.
It may also be that Zoey ends up being a good friend who helps the MC through difficult times and/or problems.
DPC wrote in an EP8 status report that he has been looking forward to creating a scene for 2 years. That actually falls within the time frame of Zoey's review.
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Yeah... Especially when she told MC that she would not hesitate to play dirty in order to "win" (the swimming pool scene if MC stays with Sage in EP4). Along with that abandoned puppy face when she saw Chad left the party in EP7, I can't really shake off the sense that Sage was using MC to achieve something instead of trying to develop a healthy relationship with him.
Of cause, it's up to DPC that if MC can truly win Sage over/help her to leave Chad behind after all.
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I think you wildly overestimate that relationship.I agree with you 100% on the first part.
But you are also underestimating Zoey. Of course the MC is more emotional with the other LI's right now than with Zoey. But here's the thing.
Zoey has known the MC much, much longer and thus better than all the other LI's combined. It's a little over 3 years that Zoey has spent with the MC. No LI can come close to that amount of time. She has the potential to be a danger to the LI's.
It is solely up to the MC (player) to decide what the MC will or will not do with Zoey when she reappears.
It may also be that Zoey ends up being a good friend who helps the MC through difficult times and/or problems.
DPC wrote in an EP8 status report that he has been looking forward to creating a scene for 2 years. That actually falls within the time frame of Zoey's review.
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Let me add my dime's worth into this debate.I agree with you 100% on the first part.
But you are also underestimating Zoey. Of course the MC is more emotional with the other LI's right now than with Zoey. But here's the thing.
Zoey has known the MC much, much longer and thus better than all the other LI's combined. It's a little over 3 years that Zoey has spent with the MC. No LI can come close to that amount of time. She has the potential to be a danger to the LI's.
It is solely up to the MC (player) to decide what the MC will or will not do with Zoey when she reappears.
It may also be that Zoey ends up being a good friend who helps the MC through difficult times and/or problems.
DPC wrote in an EP8 status report that he has been looking forward to creating a scene for 2 years. That actually falls within the time frame of Zoey's review.
Zoey can never come back and expect to be a side girl.
She fucked the mc. They split up. She's off fucking some other dude. Then she comes back? Hello?! NTR much!!?
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side girls who fuck a lot of people who are not the MC? Where does that sound like????Let me add my dime's worth into this debate.
Zoey can never come back and expect to be a side girl.
She fucked the mc. They split up. She's off fucking some other dude. Then she comes back? Hello?! NTR much!!?
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side girls who fuck a lot of people who are not the MC? Where does that sound like????
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Oh man wait until some of those people find out what Stephens been up to with some of those girls.
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Zoey having a boyfriend would only make the MC more likely to have his way with her again. DPC has been pushing the cuck em all plot since day one
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its not a fetish its just that in northern Europe it can get really cold and energy costs a fortune so an extra layer of clothing even during strenuous activities helps save up some nice money!
so instead of a fetish:
- helps save money in energy
- helps save money in food since you will require less calories
- there is a less moisturizer culture so stockings can serve as a sucedanous for smooth skin
so its not a fetish its an investment that pays itself in the long run!
you know the worst Luddites that raised up where the stocking weavers so there is also a cultural thing to it!
one of the great concerns regarding the industrial revolution was that it would create unemployment!
Also NTR is just happening if you got an emotional connection to the girl so... yeah weaklings will call it NTR regular people will just call it life!
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Look, on the other points I agree, but they are all related to the fact that BADIK is undoubtedly a game of another level compared to AL, is much more ambitious, has a much larger cast. then comparing the final of a small game to an intermediate stage of a major one, it is normal that in the second case you have greater freedom
but on the point I made, you are very ungenerous. let's start with the premise that for me, both reactions are plausible.
but it is not true that in BADIK MC runs away from a love failure, he runs away in front of the fear of failure, in fact nothing has happened, he just suddenly sees in danger both the relationships he counted on and finds no other solution but to run away.
on the other hand, to reduce the drama of AL's MC to a bereavement, seems to me to be really bad... it may be a secondary aspect but he also loses his house, and finds himself living on a mattress in a friend's house. then it was not an acquaintance of his who died, but one of his very few friends, she is described as very introverted, one he trusted so much that he put her in the house. in addition to this the victim was undoubtedly the best friend of the girl he loves, so not only he is in mourning, but also the person closest to him is in a state of shock. Add to these considerations that Mc feels guilty for various reasons: because he thinks he is partly responsible, suspecting Melissa's stepfather, because it was a danger that he knew, that he faced only by baiting him without solving anything, he also feels guilty because he COULD have saved her, the fact that he did not physically succeed does not solve the guilt.
does not seem to me an unmotivated crisis
everyone can prefer what they want, but both MCs at some point decide to behave in an instinctive, irrational and from our point of view as players, inevitable and completely unrelated to our choices