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Literally every Jill scene in the game.
"Would love to do that the next time as well!"
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"Would love to do that the next time as well!"
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I'm calling it.Literally every Jill scene in the game.
"Would love to do that the next time as well!"
Jill is gonna turn out to be the kinkiest girl in the game.
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I'm certain her motives do matter to some people, they don't really do to me.
A lot of people find criminals cool or at the very least interesting, but only until they're on the receiving end of some criminal energy and become the victim of it.
I've done my fair share of questionable bullshit in my life but i still definitely wouldn't want to hang out with a serious criminal, much less someone who's partially proud of being one.
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I’ll bite… what exactly are her motives and actions we are misunderstanding?
I mean… what was her motivation to slap Riona that time? Where am I going wrong in thinking that despite her occasional good qualities nothing really overcomes the fact she’s a physically abusive pimp of teenage girls?
- Dec 19, 2018
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I understand what you're saying and I'm also certain that you understand that sometimes people are products of their environment. It may be a stereotype that a lot of poverty stricken people are criminals but their environment leaves them little to no choice in the matter. A lot of different life variables predict the outcome you're gonna have. If you're born into a poor family, it's a LOT harder to succeed by legal means than it would be if you were born into non-poverty. It's a pretty big reason people turn to crime.
Scroll up a little bit. I explained it a couple posts above.
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She is going to bend MC over and penetrate him with a 32 inch purple dildo strap on
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He already explained that indirectly. I don't want to go too much into it because it's impossible to verify the life you've lived online and people that never lived it have this false impression it's something that can be deduced with logic alone; but when you're raised in that environment your survival mode never really turns off.
Letting Riona run her mouth in that instance could escalate to running her mouth in front of others which weakens Quinn's authority. To allow that type of challenge is weakness and weakness has been and never will be allowed. It's something you learn to never show under any circumstances ever. Quinn shows this in-game after she gets dropped and bumps into MC during ep. 6 and if you take the time to pay attention to people you know irl raised in similarly shitty situations you can see it in them too. You never show weakness and you dont allow it either.
- Jul 19, 2017
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Right, pretty much all people are a product of their environment.
I don't want to unpack my life here in a porn game thread but let's say that i've spent enough time around moderately criminal people that i can definitely tell that her edgy "I'll fuck you up" stance towards pretty much everyone is a way to hide lots of weaknesses and i'm sure she's a huge pussy deep inside (heh, get it?). I've watched characters like this unravel lots of times and just being that type of character instantly makes her undesireable for me, and that was basically the question somewhere back there.
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Pretty much. If you know, you know
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Exactly. I didn't have a chance to explain about the Riona incident but I would have said the same thing you did more or less.
I know what you mean. I've been around those types my entire life. I guess it's why I'm sympathetic with Quinn...because in a lot of ways, our stories are parallel. I've never ran a prostitution ring though. However, that's all I'm willing to say about my real life on a public forum.
I respect your opinion when it comes to her type being undesireable for you though.
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She's not that bad, I've had worse once
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Well you know, in various stages of intoxication sometimes you do things you later regret. But you still do it. For the motherland.She's not that bad, I've had worse once
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I might be facepalmed heavily for what I'm about to say, but whatever.
It's simply easier to put a label on a person you don't like than trying to understand her/his motives, what made one that kind of person, backgrounds and etc. It's fine, it's just a defensive mechanism that saves you time, energy, and mental health. Take Maya, for example - I don't like her at all, which is why I had labeled her as a whiny, naive, hypocritical egoist. I know she's much more than that Maya fans, please, don't crucify me , but I don't care. Same thing with Quinn - for some people she's nothing more than a bully and a criminal and it's fine because such labels help you to deal with a difficult situation using a simple method. Like I said earlier - it saves you time and mental health. So starting a serious fuss over that matter seems pointless to me.
tl;dr We all like what we like and avoid things we don't like.
It's simply easier to put a label on a person you don't like than trying to understand her/his motives, what made one that kind of person, backgrounds and etc. It's fine, it's just a defensive mechanism that saves you time, energy, and mental health. Take Maya, for example - I don't like her at all, which is why I had labeled her as a whiny, naive, hypocritical egoist. I know she's much more than that Maya fans, please, don't crucify me
, but I don't care. Same thing with Quinn - for some people she's nothing more than a bully and a criminal and it's fine because such labels help you to deal with a difficult situation using a simple method. Like I said earlier - it saves you time and mental health. So starting a serious fuss over that matter seems pointless to me.tl;dr We all like what we like and avoid things we don't like.
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people calling Ari model ugly like Linda doesn't exist
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Don't tell me you're one of those guys that hung around here claiming that Jill being naive was part of some grand plan of hers and she's playing everyone along and she's using Tybalt to unveil Burke's crimes in the end.
Though I'll say it right away, don't expect a major Jill scene in the next episode. Knowing DPC he'll start progressing her story in season 3 and have the first big scene in season 4, probably.
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Well, she is not exactly a "serious criminal". More like a low tier criminal, the bottom of the bottom. If you asked me her worst crime is not even ilegal, that awfull heirstyle she wear for such a beauty face.
We don't crucify people. We force them to assist to conference of Judith Buttler. It's way worse.
But really if your are concient than at the end of the day your anger towards someone is subjective and irrational... maybe you just considerer be true to your rational being, wich is a way better guy at it seems.
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I've unironically always thought that would turn out to be the case, that's why I try to keep an open mind about Jill despite my misgivings with how her path has been paced so far. If Jill turns out to be a super sex freak, she's going straight to the top of my tier list under the Queen
Your questions are great and you actually sound pretty genuine and amenable to changing your mind on Quinn, which is a nice change from some of the hard line stances people take over the girls in here
Because Jamie and boop have explained it, I'll also add my thoughts on your specific questions.Quinn slaps Riona, pimps her out, puts her down by saying her grades couldn't cut it to stay at college, and is basically a terrible friend to her. Despite all that though, I don't think I've ever seen a single person on here claim that Quinn doesn't care about Riona. She does. She lets her smoke their product for free, despite the obvious shit situation they're in, and is clearly looking out for her in the extremely brutal and realistic sense that comes with being involved with drugs and abuse since you were old enough to measure your height with chalk on a wall. Now, you might not subscribe to this explanation of Quinn's behavior at all, and that's perfectly fine. All I'm asking you to do, is to put the really bad actions that Quinn takes during the story, and to contextualize them in another way.
A lot of people who dislike Quinn, maybe most people who dislike her, bring up Quinn slapping Riona as exhibit A for that dislike. That's completely understandable, because if that's how Quinn treats her friends, she can't be a very good person. But the mistake these people are making, in my opinion, is attributing Quinn's slap to malice. It wasn't malice, it was survival. When you're fighting a war, when you're in the trenches, and the guy next to you starts panicking and having doubts, you can't take the risk that they might pop their head up and get their brains blown out. You grab them, and you slap the shit out of them, for their good and yours.
Quinn's fighting a war. She's been fighting a war since she was a kid, as far as we know. Riona's fighting it with her, for reasons we don't know, and we don't know exactly how bad it is, but we do know that she's starting to lose her nerve. Have doubts. Maybe even start to believe she could do well at college and be something else. Quinn can't have that. She's probably seen what happens when people in her business try to get out, especially with an outstanding debt. Quinn needs Riona's head in the fight, for her own good. That's why she slapped her, in my estimation. To remind her things are serious, not out of some sadistic reflex.
That's my own personal view on it anyway, to be read in conjunction with the other explanations of Quinn's behavior from the others. If you can bring yourself to maybe rethink Quinn's motivations for slapping Riona, you might view her other actions in a new light. She really is a great character so it'd be nice if more people took a closer look at her for their own enjoyment of the story at least.
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