ffsage

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Well the comparison is not fair, Zoey is beautiful

Madame is disgusting, If you put the old woman Derek fucked and Madame I would prefer the old woman and the worst thing is that she is younger than Madame and looks better than Madame
Well, I see you kinda like her... I believe you would call a blue haired duck beautiful as well... Oh wait that's Zoey!
 

DavDR

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Dude, you gotta accept when people are trying to meet you halfway in these discussions.

Maya can be an annoying, whiny, pain in the ass. She has been selfish, and no one is denying this.

But she's not a monster either. She's a young woman whose dad has smothered her growth such that she isn't equipped to stand on her own two feet, or at least she doesn't think she is.

The whole tasering and stuff, while I joked about it earlier, Quinn and her cohort would have played it off as typical. They would have convinced her it was no big deal and Maya would have gone back to worrying about her own bullshit.

As far as she was concerned, all her eggs were in the HOTs free tuition basket, her life was basically on hold until she solved this big issue, and so her own problems are all she can think about.

She keeps doing this, thinking whatever it is, is her only chance, and like the mc says to her in the closing scene of episode 8, "I feel I've heard you say that before, Maya."

So yeah, she needs to calm the fuck down, think her options through carefully instead of these hairbrained schemes (and I can't see the Burkes are gonna hand her a silver bullet either).

So Maya has made a lot of mistakes in this story, and her inability to solve her own issues gets on some people's nerves, like really badly. But other people see her as someone who needs a break in life.

Every character in the game is flawed, and that's great, it's what makes them interesting and provides fodder for discussion. Unfortunately the discussions are typical so hyperbolic that people lose sight of what they are discussing:

Maya Fan: "I like Maya, she has a cute ass."​
Maya Detractor: "You're fucked in the head, Maya is a fucking hypocrite of the highest order, she's draining the mc's blood to make money to fund her lesbian lifestyle, she is literally the worst fucking character in the history of AVNs!"​
Maya Fan: "That's bullshit, she is so sweet and innocent, nothing is her fault, her dad raped her as a child and now Quinn wants to rape her too! She needs the mc to help her because she hasn't developed the common sense of a 3 year old yet. It's not fair, poor Maya, I hope she'll suck my dick one day!"​
Maya Detractor: "OMG You simpering fuckhead! No one in their right mind would want to help such a succubus! Maya just uses people and then casts them away once she has sucked the marrow from their bones!"​
Maya Fan: "Fuck you! I hope you and your family die in a burning car crash. Maya is more important to me than any living human being (except my mom, I need her to pay the bills to keep the basement lights on and my porn streaming)! I bet you're a Quinn fan, oh yeah I know you are! She is the epitome of evil, by liking her, you are basically selling your soul to the devil!"​
Quinn Fan: "What the fuck are you smoking? Quinn had a hard upbringing. Her dad's dead in case you didn't know, she has to sell drugs and pimp girls out, how else is she gonna make it through college. Grow a fucking brain!"​
Maya Detractor: "Haha Maya Simp hasn't got a brain!"​
Quinn Fan: "You're a fucking moron too! Who do you fucking like? Bella? You wouldn't have the package to satisfy her!"​
Maya Detractor: "WTF! You wanna screw Quinn, she looks like a guy!"​
Felice: "I like the Madame, she has a cute ass."​
Maya Fan / Maya Detractor / Quinn Fan: "Fuck off!"​

Anyway, back to flawed characters, here's a list I made earlier of all the girls and their flaws.
Oh F you Shazba, I had to turn off my Spotify right in the middle of a Tom Petty song to respond to this crap.

Anyway, I refuse to compromise with anyone defending Maya in this scene. This scene is the absolute focal point of my dislike for that character, and all characters like her. There is no defense of her selfishness and manipulation here. Dear God, she's so self centered it's a wonder that other characters aren't ripped apart by her gravitational field.

And leave Felice alone, he's not into Madame. He's just pathetically besotted with KRJ, the poor bastard.
 

godkingxerxes

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Madame is horrible, I hope once we finish with the bullshit at the start of episode 9, which for the record do you guys see it as similar to episode 7 in which it seems like something might pop off with Patrick and the Lesbians and nothing happens or do you think we might get some real shit going on?

Anyways, after that drama, I hope we go to the Pink Rose and find out Madame is in a car wreck and the real VIP prize is a stripper bangfest with Envy, Lily, Sandy, Rose and Brandi.
 

PashafromRussia

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I don´t think Sage has paranoia. It´s not paranoia if you are right about your fears. I don´t think that DPC is going to make another 180º change of direction for Sage, from "I don´t care if you date or fuck others" and "Let´s fuck Quinn, you and me" to irrational jealousy.

I think the relationship with Sage will be ruined if Tremolo fucked with her mom. Maybe there will be another situation like "tell her or not that her ex is gay", but this time with her father´s business with Quinn, if (or better, when) Tremolo discovers it. And maybe DPC set another booby trap in the path of Tremolo that we don´t know already and will potentially make explode Sage´s relationship. But I don´t think Sage is going to start behaving like a crazy possessive girlfriend.
I'd be surprised if Sage behaved differently. She has already admitted that it is very difficult for her to let go. And if you reject her at the end of episode 8, she admits that this is for the best since she has already begun to get attached to him and did not want to lose his friendship. She gradually falls in love with him and this is the most inconspicuous process unlike other girls and I like it. Because their friendship is really often very difficult to distinguish from a real relationship.

I would definitely like to see Sage as possessive and jealous of every girl. But having sex with Quinn raises a big question. In the future, their relationship is likely to be similar to Heather's relationship with Tommy, but healthier and more trusting. Sage will become a light version of Heather in the future.
I personally don't think Jade's problem is significant.

Firstly, if it turns out that MС fucked her, it will primarily hit on Jade and her reputation.
Secondly, despite the fact that she took the breakup quite negatively, I think the maximum that she can do is to talk negatively about Tremolo, that he uses Sage and provoke a breakup. Probably at some point she will try to seduce him. But I am sure that sex with Jade in the past episodes will not cause Sage and MС to break up. Otherwise, the radical diks will have only one branch of the Others, and I think DPC gives MC a chance to correct itself.
Thirdly, Quinn's problem seems to me much more significant.A clash between Quinn and Sage seems inevitable. Quinn says in episode 8 that when she becomes the head of Hots there will be changes and Sage will definitely soon find out the truth about the secret brothel within the walls of Hots. MS can tell her the truth and side with her, confront Quinn, or side with Quinn. This choice seems to be the only logical way to end any relationship with Sage.

In general, as already noted, MС rejects only Jade, but does not reject Lily, Envy and others. MС will be able to explain that sex with Jade was in the past and Sage already knew that MC was popular in this times and fucked many girls and will be able to forgive him. Besides, Tremolo didn't know she was Sage's mother. Perhaps they will break up for a while and if MС plays the cards right, they will start dating again.
I am sure that past relationships will not matter as much as infidelities during a relationship. The connection with Jade makes sense for dramatic effect, the entire ending of episode 8 comes from the assumption that the player on the way Sage fucked Jade. To end such an intrigue with a banal parting is too stupid.
 
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DavDR

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I'd be surprised if Sage behaved differently. She has already admitted that it is very difficult for her to let go. And if you reject her at the end of episode 8, she admits that this is for the best since she has already begun to get attached to him and did not want to lose his friendship. She gradually falls in love with him and this is the most inconspicuous process unlike other girls and I like it. Because their friendship is really often very difficult to distinguish from a real relationship.

I would definitely like to see Sage as possessive and jealous of every girl. But having sex with Quinn raises a big question. In the future, their relationship is likely to be similar to Heather's relationship with Tommy, but healthier and more trusting. Sage will become a light version of Heather in the future.
I personally don't think Jade's problem is significant.

Firstly, if it turns out that MС fucked her, it will primarily hit on Jade and her reputation.
Secondly, despite the fact that she took the breakup quite negatively, I think the maximum that she can do is to talk negatively about Tremolo, that he uses Sage and provoke a breakup. Probably at some point she will try to seduce him. But I am sure that sex with Jade in the past episodes will not cause Sage and MС to break up. Otherwise, the radical diks will have only one branch of the Others, and I think DPC gives MC a chance to correct itself.
Thirdly, Quinn's problem seems to me much more significant.A clash between Quinn and Sage seems inevitable. Quinn says in episode 8 that when she becomes the head of Hots there will be changes and Sage will definitely soon find out the truth about the secret brothel within the walls of Hots. MS can tell her the truth and side with her, confront Quinn, or side with Quinn. This choice seems to be the only logical way to end any relationship with Sage.

In general, as already noted, MС rejects only Jade, but does not reject Lily, Envy and others. MС will be able to explain that sex with Jade was in the past and Sage already knew that MC was popular in this times and fucked many girls and will be able to forgive him. Besides, Tremolo didn't know she was Sage's mother. Perhaps they will break up for a while and if MС plays the cards right, they will start dating again.
I am sure that past relationships will not matter as much as infidelities during a relationship. The connection with Jade makes sense for dramatic effect, the entire ending of episode 8 comes from the assumption that the player on the way Sage fucked Jade. To end such an intrigue with a banal parting is too stupid.
I see the logic of your arguments but, scoring with a Mother and Daughter is very dangerous territory. Believe me, I've been there, it's not pretty.
 
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Lostanddamned

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Imagine all characters are dead and you have to choose between Madame and Zoey.
That's a retarded comparison. Zoey is leagues above most characters in terms of beauty and I'd say that she even edges out some LI's if they are compared who's more beautiful.

It's like you're asking "who are you going to choose if your only choices are Lily and that catfishing Swyper girl (Ida? Or whatever her name was)."
 

ffsage

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That's a retarded comparison. Zoey is leagues above most characters in terms of beauty and I'd say that she even edges out some LI's if they are compared who's more beautiful.

It's like you're asking "who are you going to choose if your only choices are Lily and that catfishing Swyper girl (Ida? Or whatever her name was)."
Well, I gonna reply like this; who are you going to choose if your only choices are Lily and Zoey? The person who chooses Zoey is clearly a retardinho. So that puts Zoey all the way to the bottom.
 

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I have to check with you guys, if you played through the Josy/Maya path and Josy sex cleanly after the HOT party in EP7, do you have an entry in the Scene Gallery. Maybe it's a bug. :unsure:

For me it is only see when I play with mod.:whistle:
Well there isn't much to "see" so i think DPC didn't see it as a scene people would replay
 
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AchedCroissant

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Looking at the images that DPC has given us, it could be said that we will see different stages of the life of Zoey and the MC probably
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Because in this image where we see a more current image of her when she has tattoos
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So I have a feeling that DPC will give us the days when the MC and her become friends, then they become boyfriends later when she goes to California, and her life in California then there will be several jumps in time to cover all that

Until we get to the point where she appears on EP 8
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It seemed weird to me when DPC made a wallpaper of her when it didn't make sense at the time

So he had already planned her return for a long time
 
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