VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[namelessone22]

I imagine you’re the same kind of person who would have argued that it was a massive reach to say Chad and Troy were in a relationship. This wasn’t ever said explicitly, instead you could work it out by reading between the lines. It was never explicitly said that Sage was related to Jade but the breadcrumbs were all there.

To argue the picture can’t have been taken by Lana because she isn’t mentioned is not evidence she didn’t take it. We can presume either, the camera is on a timer or someone took the picture, either is an assumption that the game doesn’t tell us explicitly. I forget if taking pictures was Lana‘s hobby that Jill picked up or if it was always Jill’s?

It is not a “massive reach” to suggest that Lana may be taking a picture of a group of women, around her age, standing 100 yards from her family home. It is also not a massive reach to equate Lana and Lynette. Let’s go over the (potential) evidence.

These are all facts given to us by the game.

1. Lynette and Lana both died young
2. Lynette and Lana both liked to write
3. Lynette and Lana were both ostracised from their families
4. Lynette is friends with the parents and or older relatives of Jill’s friends
5. Lynette has a picture with said friends, standing in front of the Royce family home.
6. The MCs Polaroid of Jill fades into the picture of Lynette and her friends.

The game is explicitly telling us there is a connection between Jill and Lynette. Taking 1 step from there I am saying either Lana and Lynette are the same person or they knew each other. That is not a massive leap.



The only thing that doesn’t sync with the timeline is Jill’s age. This is presuming we know her age. We don’t. DPC has hidden surnames in the past to mask identities, it isn’t a huge stretch to think he might mask someone’s age to hide someone’s identity. IF Jill is older than we think, this ’fixes‘ the main sticking point of this theory.

Lynette’s journal is taking place before she leaves the family home to be with Neil. Something she does against her fathers will. Lana is estranged from her family because she did something that they didn’t like. Leaving to be with a poor, uneducated, construction worker could be that reason.

Jill’s friends all seem to be either older or at least at a different stage in their lives. One talks about travelling to Japan and investing. This certainly isn’t proof, but is curious, and could imply she is older than we know.

With regards to Lynette and Lana, not looking alike I agree. However it is interesting to note that in Jill‘s flashback, she has black hair, however in this picture her hair is lighter when compared to Jill.

Spoiler: Polaroid

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I agree Aunty Jill still requires a few to many well what ifs & maybes to be as sure as some of us were about Chad and Tory or Sage and Jade. But I don’t think it is irrational. And certainly not as out of left field as Zoe and Josy being related would be.

What I am 100% confident of is that there is a connection between Jill and Lynette, and that connection, one way or another is going to involve Lana.

I didn't pay enough attention to this when I first saw it in the game.
I thought Bella was going to be Jill's mom or older sister.

 

[varage]

See, you have a strong argument; Maya's thought's don't include what she's doing to the MC despite having abused him pretty severely AND continuing to conceal a rather significant secret. Maya being selfish and manipulative is a valid interpretation of that.

My only objection it's not the ONLY valid interpretation. If you aren't interested in debating those interpretations, I think it would behoove you to be a little less strident in hammering relentlessly on your own. It would make your argument more persuasive, and reduce the temperature of the thread to boot.

I'm going to offer you a slight bit of advice.. The guy you're trying to rile down invented the term discussion rape.. He's what people in the business call mules. You know how stubborn they can be he doesn't like Maya that's end of it. No convincing him of nothing. What Maya did was wrong hiding Josy but Later he mentions the Maya taser scene. Yes, she's in it for the money that's why she grinds him without consent yes, but MC doesn't try to stop it either. Nor did she know about the tasing, and she went out of her way to find out that "hey you were the only one tased that night I'm so sorry." Hell, week is Hell week The reason she was thinking about herself during that scene is because it wasn't about him. THAT SCENE was all about her. Had she been sent to Ponytailed guys room she would have done the exact same thing because there wasn't meant to be any feelings involved. It was a Job a Job she felt she needed to do.
In that particular scene it had NOTHING to do with the MC he was a body grinding with zero feelings behind it. To expect her to be like I wonder what he feels about this is asinine at best. Because, just as he was going through hell week slightly later so was she. The only difference being is she had a realer reason to do it. Meaning despite any moral compas she may own. I believe she would have exceeded her own expectations to get it done. Whereas the MC could have stayed with whoever while waiting for a new dorm to open up, or even went to the dean and notified them of the theft. but he chose the former. Aka Maya, Derek, Sage, Bella etc. He didn't NEEED to be a Dik. He wanted to be a Dik. Maya NEEDED to be a Hot.

 

[DavDR]

I'm going to offer you a slight bit of advice.. The guy you're trying to rile down invented the term discussion rape.. He's what people in the business call mules. You know how stubborn they can be he doesn't like Maya that's end of it. No convincing him of nothing. What Maya did was wrong hiding Josy but Later he mentions the Maya taser scene. Yes, she's in it for the money that's why she grinds him without consent yes, but MC doesn't try to stop it either. Nor did she know about the tasing, and she went out of her way to find out that "hey you were the only one tased that night I'm so sorry." Hell, week is Hell week The reason she was thinking about herself during that scene is because it wasn't about him. THAT SCENE was all about her. Had she been sent to Ponytailed guys room she would have done the exact same thing because there wasn't meant to be any feelings involved. It was a Job a Job she felt she needed to do.
In that particular scene it had NOTHING to do with the MC he was a body grinding with zero feelings behind it. To expect her to be like I wonder what he feels about this is asinine at best. Because, just as he was going through hell week slightly later so was she. The only difference being is she had a realer reason to do it. Meaning despite any moral compas she may own. I believe she would have exceeded her own expectations to get it done. Whereas the MC could have stayed with whoever while waiting for a new dorm to open up, or even went to the dean and notified them of the theft. but he chose the former. Aka Derek, Sage, Bella etc. He didn't NEEED to be a Dik. He wanted to be a Dik. Maya NEEDED to be a Hot.

Yes, and I suppose that if Quinn had ordered Maya to go steal Magnar's homework, or to take the nude pics of Cathy, or beat up a weak kid like KRJ you would be perfectly fine with it because Maya needed it! And Maya needing something is the only justification to do something, no matter how mean and selfish.

You call me stubborn because I won't adopt your views, and you're willing to excuse anything your favorite does, just because they're your favorite.

 

[varage]

Yes, and I suppose that if Quinn had ordered Maya to go steal Magnar's homework, or to take the nude pics of Cathy, or beat up a weak kid like KRJ you would be perfectly fine with it because Maya needed it! And Maya needing something is the only justification to do something, no matter how mean and selfish.

You call me stubborn because I won't adopt your views, and you're willing to excuse anything your favorite does, just because they're your favorite.

My favorites Bella doe but i enjoy them all. And I'm not justifying her but comparing that to robbing Tybalt seems to make the same since do you hate the mc as well for stealing from the rich kid? Because the only convincing it took to do that was them saying go do it. Or giving Magnar a wedgie. (Beating up a weak kid) If Maya had done it would it somehow become worse?

 

[DavDR]

My favorites Bella doe but i enjoy them all. And I'm not justifying her but comparing that to robbing Tybalt seems to make the same since do you hate the mc as well for stealing from the rich kid? Because the only convincing it took to do that was them saying go do it.

Have you ever seen me make an argument justifying the MC's actions? I'll help you with that, the answer is no. And it still doesn't change the fact that you'll make excuses for anything Maya does.

 

[varage]

Have you ever seen me make an argument justifying the MC's actions? I'll help you with that, the answer is no. And it still doesn't change the fact that you'll make excuses for anything Maya does.

No, I will however View it with empathetic eye's and try to figure out why she did it. I wasn't put on the earth to judge but I've chosen to observe.

 

[DavDR]

I wasn't put on the earth to judge but I've chosen to observe.

Ahh yes, you're such a better person than I. All I do is have sympathy for all the people who are hurt by the kind of people that you empathize with.

 

[nyrek]

you guys are still arguing about maya? it's been 2 days now

 

[romero94]

No, NTR hysteria is, I feel, a major issue in AVN's. I'm not particularly fond of it myself but where cheating becomes necessary for the progression of the story authors have to feel safe in using it.

Well that is totally different story. If by this means story progresses then ok, but not putting NTR where it don't belong, or even worst, putting it into the game just for the sake of it.

 

[romero94]

who are your favourite girls? I like Bella

Always Bella, I've beat the game 3 times, CHICK, DIK and CHEAT, and couldn't bring myself to choose anyone but Bella at the end, 3 out of 3 fucking times!

 

[varage]

you guys are still arguing about maya? it's been 2 days now

Nah we good we mutually agree'd that Maya is actually undoubtably the best most gracious and unselfish lover of them all and want no playthrough but hers in future episodes.

 

[Canto Forte]

Oh, Maya. The girl who takes yout love .. she takes it deep!
MC to Maya:
No worries, honey! I got more and more love to give. I am practicing like crazy!

 

[J.A.L.]

Tremolo and Maya are not a married couple, as far as I know. They are not even a couple. They are just friends, and were starting to be something more. Now, Tremolo knows that Maya has lied to her, and she´s a lesbian into another relationship. He has right to say "I´m out of this fucking drama. I don´t want to talk with you again. Go on with your life, I´ll do the same with mine".

And Maya following him around making puppy dog eyes, using her brother Derek, and organizing antics in public to, again, be able of babbling a bunch of pathetic excuses to Tremolo so she can feel good about herself, it´s not "rape discussion" (that´s probably an exaggerated term), but indeed it´s emotional blackmailing. Something, emotional blackmailing, in which that needy drama queen is a master with three PhDs.

 

[OmenBR]

Honestly when the MC said he wanted to go by the name Tremolo i was genuinely hoping that there was some kind of variant where he could instead go with Ass Man lol

 

[always86]

I didn't pay enough attention to this when I first saw it in the game.
I thought Bella was going to be Jill's mom or older sister.

Haha you REALLY weren‘t paying attention.

 

[Canto Forte]

You can indeed set your own MC name, should you actually game and not sight see.
Go game!
GiT!

Honestly when the MC said he wanted to go by the name Tremolo i was genuinely hoping that there was some kind of variant where he could instead go with Ass Man lol

 

[znar25]

I love this one View attachment 1550433

A path where Sage is the real deal and nothing else, is, worth it.

 

[Tadpol]

No, I will however View it with empathetic eye's and try to figure out why she did it. I wasn't put on the earth to judge but I've chosen to observe.

Ahh yes, you're such a better person than I. All I do is have sympathy for all the people who are hurt by the kind of people that you empathize with.

We all forget something essential.

We actually have to observe, but not because it would make us better people, but simply because it's not real life, it's a story.

In addition, we follow the story through the MC. What matters is not how we interpret a character's actions, but how the MC interprets them.

The MC doesn't have your feelings about Maya at all.

 

[PashafromRussia]

It will be so quiet on this forum page because all users will blacklist each other, lol. The Waifu wars have moved to a new level.

 

[TajaRrR]

It will be so quiet on this forum page because all users will blacklist each other, lol. The Waifu wars have moved to a new level.

I don't get that, I mean ok, you may not agree with someone else about how he speaks on specyfic character, but to block him because of that?