VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DavDR]

exactly. and it's not just maya. these unavoidable things in the game is what I don't like that much

but as annoying as maya can be sometimes, dealing with her problems is still less annoying than being forced to ask that insecure annoying rat who keeps poking her nose into your business out to a date. where you play fucking tennis! I don't know which of the two I hate more. skip. "this did not go well for a first date" well thank fuck I might be out of this shit.

also noone speaks about having to spy on chad for sage. fuck you bitch, go into the gym and spy on your own. that's my fucking guitar and I ain't doing shit for you just because you graciously let me take back my property.

oh look, a dinner with a teacher (librarian, whatever, still a teacher). great, that's what I need, missing out on getting drunk with my fraternity cause I want some random teacher to think well of me? think I'll pass, thx. HAVING TO kiss her in her house? eh? cmon.

oh, I have to lose my clothes so quinn and camilla can abuse me in the bathroom? well how about a fuck no? I got the panties, Imma gtfo.

and so on.
what would be left of the story if we could skip on everything?
yeah, quinn is the "antagonist" but I believe a DIK MC would just tell her to fuck off instead of losing his clothes.
and how would you know you don't want to do anything with jill if you didn't... couldn't even make myself finish that sentence. go mind your own business, rat.
as for bella... well, you wouldn't know she has any dirty laundry if you weren't forced to that date and ended up at her place

but everyone is annoyed about having to deal with maya, a central character in the story from the beginning. she showed you around, she took you in her room (thanks to derek, sure, but you're living with her). you don't like her? well good! now enjoy her help around the campus and the warmth of the other bed in her room

when you take into consideration the kinds of problems every character has, I don't think anyone has it as hard as maya does. of course her entire life keeps spinning around those problems.

and in the end, everyone ends up hating the chick who (for most of the time) reacts like a normal person would in that sort of situation, while cherishing a chick who deals drugs, pimps her sorority and treats MC like a piece of trash just because she can.

I get it, it's a game, but try putting yourself into the story. how much of you would/could actually handle/tolerate a bitch like quinn IRL? and if you had the same type of problems maya does, would you be cheerful about it? would you not be thinking about it 24/7 and looking for a way out?

it's understandable that everyone has their own preferences and (dis)likes certain characteristics in people. but actively bashing* a character over the last 50 pages just because you dislike it... jesus christ.

I agree with the "maya haters"/"anti maya lobby" (however you wanna call them), maya definitely could have handled some situations better but so could every character in the story. those idiotic choices in various situations are why the story keeps going. otherwise everyone would be holding hands happily by the end of season 1

ok, maybe I got a bit too far into defending maya here but my point was - it's a story. however DPC writes it, we're here to go through it and affect it to our liking as much as we're given the chance. even if we have to be forced on dates with certain characters AHEM


*again, not to be confused with smashing

For anyone wondering why there are days long arguments about Maya, this is it.

I've explained as simply and as clearly as I can why the people who don't like Maya are upset with her role in the game. I've also explained as plainly as possible why Maya's problem's are so unbelievable and immersion breaking to the story.

But that isn't enough, Maya's fans are still going to insist that I show sympathy for that poor girl.

Well I don't have any sympathy for Maya. I don't like her. I started disliking her the first time I played the game, during the tour in ep1. IRL I seriously dislike judgemental women like Maya. It's something that just irritates me. As the story went on I couldn't help feeling more and more dislike for the character. I thought the demand for 100% honesty to be arrogant and soon found it hypocritical as well when I discovered what a liar she was. I also have nothing but contempt for someone who won't try to solve their own problems. Everyone has problems, a lot of people have problems much worse than Maya's, and I don't consider a college education to be something that everyone is guaranteed, it's not an intrinsic right. I also have zero respect for anyone who manages to go through 18 or 19 years of life without earning a single dollar.

This is all my opinion. I have my opinion and you have yours. Fine. But what I do find insulting is your insinuation that if I don't share your opinion then I have no sympathy or compassion. You have no right to say that.

 

[Olsens.M]

Look into dallis eyes...you see a reflection there...it says "fuck you"

i hope someone got my poor joke, my english is rather bad at times

it means he is looking at a sign that has the words "fuck you" written. I got your joke, bro. Don't you worry, Funny as "fuck you"

 

[Olsens.M]

Can't say that I'm excited for this never ending talk about that condom not tasting good.

I mean, if girls can do it (eat cum). I suppose the guys, who are Maya fans, can do it too lol. Not judging (anymore).

 

[ju1zzed]

it means he is looking at a sign that has the words "fuck you" written. I got your joke, bro. Don't you worry, Funny as "fuck you"

glad you got it, didnt want to insult you

 

[Olsens.M]

glad you got it, didnt want to insult you

aww little meat, you won't insult me. Keep it coming because I love these kind of conversations

 

[TuffyTenToes]

You should make 2 copies of the game, a modded copy and an unmodded one. You can use the mod as much as you like on the modded version, the saves are automatically transferred to the unmodded one, and it won't corrupt your game when the next update comes.

I've been doing it for a while now and it works perfectly.
Again, the saves are fine as long as you use the saves you made on an unmodded copy when the next update comes.

Thanks for the advice

I would have to start all over again though and I'm a lazy fuck
For the moment I'll wait for the Interlude and see if there's no problems when transferring the saves... if there are I suppose I'll have to ask for someone else's unmoded saves.

Thanks again

 

[Olsens.M]

Thanks for the advice

I would have to start all over again though and I'm a lazy fuck
For the moment I'll wait for the Interlude and see if there's no problems when transferring the saves... if there are I suppose I'll have to ask for someone else's unmoded saves.

Thanks again

you don't need unmodded saves, that is what I am talking about. You only need a new unmodded copy of the game. Your modded saves will work just fine when the next release comes, as long as you patch (update) the unmodded version. If you try to patch the modded one, you gona get corrupted files, because the scripts in it were already modified.

You don't have to play again, as mentioned above, you can use your saves (from your modded gameplat) in an unmodded copy as well with no harm to future updates.

Honestly I prefer to use dev console than mods. You can edit pretty much everything in the dev console. Money, brawler stats, mansion money, dtype and affinity.
I use the mod mostly to unlock all galery when I don't wanna run other paths from LI's/characters I dont care about.

 

[ju1zzed]

Honestly I prefer to use dev console than mods. You can edit pretty much everything in the dev console. Money, brawler stats, mansion money, dtype and affinity.

isnt this what the mod does?

 

[Olsens.M]

I surely put quotation marks on the words being bullied (it looks like ' ' in case you didn't notice).

and I was replying to Ached's response to my previous post. (you could find where I borrowed the 'bully' term, if you were interested )


my bad if I didn't make it clear, I was guessing the intention of people who had chosen to 'make her stop' during the cumpetition.

aww all good. My mistake then.

and about the condoms, it was about someone who said they'd rather eat the condoms with cum in it than touch Quinn. Because they are Maya fans and I am a Quinn simp.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[nyrek]

But what I do find insulting is your insinuation that if I don't share your opinion then I have no sympathy or compassion. You have no right to say that.

far from it. everything stated there is purely based on my opinion of the situation. I have compassion towards her as I see patterns of behaviour I would most likely show in the situation as well.
not completely though. I agree on the 100% honesty part. I really disliked her asking for it while being dishonest.

but in the end I don't mind her at all. not saying she's my favourite character but she's not the worst in my mind either. she has positive sides but she definitely has negative ones as well.

I am just astonished by people's will to bash on a character so much, regardless of who it is.

 

[Olsens.M]

isnt this what the mod does?

No, Mods modifies the scripts of the game. that is why some people call it cheat/hack. Dev Console, is a tool that are made for devs as the name suggests. They may be used to the same ending but they have a different approach to the game files.

 

[shazba]

Honestly I prefer to use dev console than mods. You can edit pretty much everything in the dev console. Money, brawler stats, mansion money, dtype and affinity.

isnt this what the mod does?

The mods actually include or remove lines of code while the console just changes values.

The big issue with mods adding or removing (particularly adding) lines of code is when you save the game, it saves at the location within the script. If you open an unmodded game and try to resume where a modded save last pointed to, that location may not exist or is some other way compromised. Then the game crashes.

If you just use the console, nothing is particularly compromised unless you've modded values in such a way that mutually exclusive conditions are both met, but that won't crash the game, it'll just be potentially unpredictable.

If the mods just added an intuitive interface for less technically minded people to change values, that'd be fine (there's still the risk of the game crashing when updates occur and you haven' reapplied the mod), but what I dislike about the mods are when the modders take liberties and literally change the game. That's why I don't use mods (unless I'm doing it myself, in which case I know exactly what's happening behind the scenes).

I am just astonished by people's will to bash on a character so much, regardless of who it is.

It's fun to bash a character. I like all the characters in the game (except the Madame ), but that won't stop me from putting the boot into someone like Jill from time to time.

They are not real, so there's no harm with being mean about them.

When other people get upset about that, the people getting upset need to take a step back and realise most of it is in jest, and even if it's not in jest, none of it matters in the slightest compared to literally everything else in life.

The only thing I don't like to read, are people writing vitriol towards DPC. The man works hard and has created an unarguably fun game. It's not for everyone, so disliking the game is fine, but there's never any need to start bashing a real life person who has earnestly created something (that's not to say you can't comment or criticise his work).

 

[Niu6609]

where is JBL btw?
i need some fellow sage lovers

Sage lovers unite!

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I finally got to finishing all the routes yesterday and honestly, Sage's route in the latest episode was definitely underwhelming compared to the other LIs.

In Bella's route, we were able to crack her shell and distract her from her nowhere-to-be-found husband and have kinky as hell sex with her while learning more about her throughout the route. In Jill's route, we see a turtle coming out of its shell and were able to access a long-awaited scene with quite possibly the purest female you'll meet in the game. In the MJ route we have an amazing water park trip, which is also a part of the game you have to unlock to, in turn, unlock a special render. And the sheer amount of interaction you get with either of them in this episode is insane too, not to mention heartwarming at moments. In the 'Others' route, holy shit, Quinn, Riona, Nicole, Lily, their developments are absolutely amazing! Especially Lily for me, since honestly, you're missing out on a lot just by not getting close to her at all.

Meanwhile, no matter what route I was on, there wasn't anything particularly exclusive about Sage's route. No special interactions you get from being on her route (other than the sex scenes) and no new information about her that's only exclusive to those who've been going for her. I'll replay her route to confirm if that's really the case, though, since the first time I played the new episode it was sometime from 11 p.m. to 4 a.m., so it's a tad fuzzy.

Anyway, here's to hoping Season 3 gives Sage more content and more depth as a character, since she feels kinda like the odd one out when it comes to character development right now. I genuinely adore her personality and all so I'm really hoping for DPC to let her redeem herself as an interesting character and LI.

 

[TuffyTenToes]

you don't need unmodded saves, that is what I am talking about. You only need a new unmodded copy of the game. Your modded saves will work just fine when the next release comes, as long as you patch (update) the unmodded version. If you try to patch the modded one, you gona get corrupted files, because the scripts in it were already modified.

You don't have to play again, as mentioned above, you can use your saves (from your modded gameplat) in an unmodded copy as well with no harm to future updates.

Honestly I prefer to use dev console than mods. You can edit pretty much everything in the dev console. Money, brawler stats, mansion money, dtype and affinity.
I use the mod mostly to unlock all galery when I don't wanna run other paths from LI's/characters I dont care about.

I think I got you, basically I have to download the whole game again when Interlude/Season 3 drops right? then copy the modded saves and update the mod.

That's what I've doing the whole game it's damn tiring but at least I haven't had any broken game stuff.

 

[Olsens.M]

The mods actually include or remove lines of code while the console just changes values.

The big issue with mods adding or removing (particularly adding) lines of code is when you save the game, it saves a the location within the script. If you open an unmodded game and try to resume where a modded save last pointed to, that location may not exist or is some other way compromised. Then the game crashes.

If you just use the console, nothing is particularly compromised unless you've modded values in such a way that mutually exclusive conditions are both met, but that won't crash the game, it'll just be potentially unpredictable.

This explains perfectly the difference between both. Even though I never had problems with scrappy mod saves on my unmodded copies so far. But this is exactly how they work.

 

[shazba]

I think I got you, basically I have to download the whole game again when Interlude/Season 3 drops right? then copy the modded saves and update the mod.

That's what I've doing the whole game it's damn tiring but at least I haven't had any broken game stuff.

When season 3 drops, it'll be a brand new game. You won't be resuming from a save point like we've been doing so far, you'll just be importing variables (the same variables that were exported when you finished episode 8).

So you won't have to download anything associated with seasons 1 & 2 no matter how modded your game was.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

Alright, I've been away from this lovely forum for a while, can someone explain why I can't click on BaDIK page when I sorted on Latest Update by rating. And why I don't get notifications when someone replied my post anymore? I asked for a soundtrack title a while ago and didn't get any notification but some people actually helped and replied.

 

[Lerd0]

I usually make my MC swallow cum.

...kinda sus.....

 

[felicemastronzo]

I like Maya and even if there were no Maya, I would still avoid Quinn. so during my replay, I usually make my MC swallow cum. I was just guessing concerns over STD might also be a cause.

that's one of the four things I've never done in any run... (the other three are licking Ashley, showing Jade's video and beating up Tybalt)

but if you're happy like this, I guess it's OK

Alright, I've been away from this lovely forum for a while, can someone explain why I can't click on BaDIK page when I sorted on Latest Update by rating. And why I don't get notifications when someone replied my post anymore? I asked for a soundtrack title a while ago and didn't get any notification but some people actually helped and replied.

maybe you inadvertently put it in "ignore thread" or "unwatch"?

 

[Niu6609]

that's one of the four things I've never done in any run... (the other three are licking Ashley, showing Jade's video and beating up Tybalt)

but if you're happy like this, I guess it's OK




maybe you inadvertently put it in "ignore thread" or "unwatch"?

Damn, how do you resist the temptation to punch the snobby, delusional prep in the face? And in every run, no less.