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I did not meant specifically YOU... everyone drawing branch routes and whatnots when it's soooo simple... if you are nice to the one you are aiming for you will get your reward... if you are sticking your dick in every hole that comes around... why acting surprised when the desired result falls short ?!?The only reason why I'm making a big stink about this is because it's me, after more than two or years, attempting something totally new that's NOT Jill related; different choices, situations, all of it, so yeah, I'm fussing like a baby over it because I don't want to waste a day or two fucking everything up, especially if I want to make an actual, serious run at Rio going into E9.
Josy spent her highschool years at the B&R city since she went to school with Maya and Derek!I strongly suspect that we will get to see the MC.
Before high school:
Neil had a legal battle at one point. Maybe we'll learn more about that as well.
High School:
We know how Zoey and the MC met. But what we don't know is how the parents' lawsuit was averted by the bully the MC beat up. The charges were averted, so no lawsuit. We will also certainly learn how Zoey and the MC became closer. Why did Zoey go to San Diego before, or how could Zoey go to San Diego before? Simple. Zoey is 1 year older than the MC. Josy lived with her father during her senior year of high school. This is where the events overlap. The MC is still in high school when Zoey goes to San Diego. Now Josy comes to the same high school, but never meets Zoey. The breakup between the MC and Zoey was not long ago and the MC was also not sure if it was love or not. The MC doesn't want to jump right into the next relationship. Josy is in a relationship with Maya and we know that Josy is faithful in a relationship but that she doesn't talk about that relationship. Josy and the MC probably run into each other all the time at school, but don't notice each other. That only happens when they both work at the store.
But what does this have to do with Zoey now? Zoey is a year older than the MC. What if Zoey just wanted to take a year off and then go to college with the MC? Then Zoey meets Josy's mom in San Diego as she's getting a tattoo. They talk at length and find things in common, like Josy goes to the same high school as Zoey. Now Zoey meets another man and falls in love with him. Contact between Zoey and the MC breaks off. But Zoey's new relationship does not last. Suddenly she sees a video of Tremolo on the Internet, as he gives a concert with Jill. Old memories are awakened and Zoey goes off to college.
In my opinion, Interlude will answer some questions.
How did Tommy end up at B&R? (This question is not really important).
Josy was not accepted to B&R in the beginning. And why? She's actually the perfect college girl.
Surprisingly, she does get accepted to B&R. But why? Was she on the phone with her mother? Is Josy's mother and/or Zoey the connection to the rich and powerful in the BaDIK world?
DPC himself has written that he is also doing the interlude to clarify some issues and not just for technical reasons. It is also to answer some questions to better understand EP9.![]()
there is a red button with an X on your top right corner, if it starts being too much you can click it!Yeah I'm actually a little nervous because I don't want to waste hours trying to get whatever Rio screenies I can. I'm going to have to do a run where I'm not a client of hers and a run where I am just to get whatever I can.
At least Jill's run is pretty straight-forward, do this and this and that happens. We'll see how long I can go with this. Taking a big step outta my comfort zone.
those that wait outside can also watch a Tybalt meltdown as he goes hysterical and demands that the MC leaves his house and calls security and the cops on the MC if the MC as traumatized him enough! or Tybalt tries to murder the MC in a rage attack using the excuse of trespassing hurting Josy in the process?You're just forgetting something again.
Those who wait outside can also go into the room later.
Those who wait outside can also meet other people (Jade) and together they can then go into the room.
Those who wait outside can also see who comes running out of the room.
Those waiting outside can also be invited in by the people who are already in the room.
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This leads me to think that half of the variables will be ignored. DPC has done this before. Whether MC beat Tybalt, whether he meets Maya or not, whether he uses the services of the restaurant, all this will be omitted. I'm sure DPC will focus on the romance with Jade and the sex video, and the rest will play a secondary role. At the very least, he will devote a couple of lines to this. That's exactly why I'm not too worried about Sage's way. It will be the decisions made in episode 9 that will affect, but not the past ones. Otherwise, the code in episode 9 will become chaos.Some adults are childish a lot of the time.
It could go the other way; Jade might be a lot more accepting of the MC scrapping their trysts if she thinks that it's Sage, her own daughter, who he's getting serious with; she might appreciate knowing that her daughter's bf is refusing to cheat. But if it suits DPC to create yet more drama, then Jade lashes out at MC by wrecking the dreams of one of his friends.
There are so many variables in play here - did MC ever fuck Jade in the first place, has Burke got a sex tape, is MC dating Sage, is MC dating Maya ... that the story could go in almost any direction. How many different futures is DPC going to write in, depending on which of those variables has what status? I have no clue.
Yeah I've dropped a few games where I was shocked to see stuff like that where I didn't expect it to be. Anyways, I'm going quiet about this whole thing. If I do it, I do. If not, oh well, but if I do, I guess I'll report my "findings".there is a red button with an X on your top right corner, if it starts being too much you can click it!
i know i did it 2 times already playing a few games with surprise unnatural NTR (i mean if the MC can not see it, how come we are forced to watch it?)!
I don't think Maya's ever really apologized for that. She touches on the subject in the ruined library in Episode 4. It's an informal apology, but it falls well short of the mark if she then turns around and rejects the MC for nebulous DIK reasons.I think that's part of DPC's problem. I've heard vague mentions in the forum that there's dialogue from Maya where she apologizes for the 100% thing. I've never seen it because I don't play the M/J path anymore. If there is such dialogue then DPC has put it in the wrong place. Any efforts to make amends should have gone to an MC that was rejected by M/J, not to the ones on her path. Sometimes I think DPC doesn't realize that he's got a game here with multiple paths.
I agree Riona's potential relationship with the MC does seem to be evolving, but IMHO Heather's "Be nice" comment was more mundane. I think she just wants the MC not to tease her too much over her OCD-like tendencies.Yes, get her at the Ep7 party. Toward the end of the episode she will text you asking for help where she thinks someone is following her.
EP8 is interesting on the Rio path as if you help her with the stalker problem at the dorm party her attitude does appear to change toward you (it is nice in a way and a victory for Rio fans).
Also at the end of Ep8 if everything else happens, she rearranges the furniture in your room as a bit of a tease (like a little kid would do when they like someone).... it is sweet in a way but what I think is also important is Heather says, "Be nice to her".
To me, that is pretty big. Rio has either already told Heather about MC or Heather has really good intuition that Rio likes MC.
Make my "Interlude" a full up Rio/MC episodeWith good writing, Rio could be girlfriend material.
The aftermath of Episode 8 was the first time DPC has given a realistic estimation of the total number of episodes; I don't think he's changed his mind in the last two months. And I doubt he plans to makes Interludes a regular thing, though that might change if it's wildly popular.I don't understand him. He always complains that the long development process increases his stress. And instead of making the episodes shorter, but richer, he makes a side story the size of the first episode. While from the outside it looks like he's tired of the game, he wants to take a break by focusing on the side story about Zoey.
P.S. If he really decides on a mini-episode+ episode strategy, he will never finish the game. It's impossible.
He needs at least 8 years to close all this.
That's why I'm waiting for his questions and answers and I'm afraid that he has changed his mind about the number of episodes in the direction of increasing them.
Personally I just concluded a DIK run (Major DIK run) and had the options of Bella, Sage, Others.Since ep 8 basicly forces you to choose a LI, it's not really necessary to do a run for each...
I think effectively you should be able to see pretty much everything in just 3 runs ; the chick and neutral runs should get you Maya, Josy, Bella and Jill.... Dik path should get you pretty much the rest.... (Zoey not known yet though)
Maybe after ep 8 you'll end up with 5 or 6 saves if you choose to have 1 for Jill, 2 Bella, 3 Maya and Josy, 4 Sage, 5 Zoey, 6 everything that moves...
from a game point of view it is very unlikely that MC's actions can decide Maya's fate in the middle of the game. but more importantly carrying on from here to the end of the game the double possibility of Maya being helped or not would be incredibly wasteful for DPCSome adults are childish a lot of the time.
It could go the other way; Jade might be a lot more accepting of the MC scrapping their trysts if she thinks that it's Sage, her own daughter, who he's getting serious with; she might appreciate knowing that her daughter's bf is refusing to cheat. But if it suits DPC to create yet more drama, then Jade lashes out at MC by wrecking the dreams of one of his friends.
There are so many variables in play here - did MC ever fuck Jade in the first place, has Burke got a sex tape, is MC dating Sage, is MC dating Maya ... that the story could go in almost any direction. How many different futures is DPC going to write in, depending on which of those variables has what status? I have no clue.
the fault of this is entirely DPC's, who kept on talking about this loan making it less and less credible. if the author keeps on talking about it adding details it's normal that even here they talk about it, almost in every chapter there was an addition on the matter.Imho the whole "Maya loan-debate" is one of the most (if not the most) out of proportion discussed trivialities in this thread...
Call it artistic freedom and accept the fact it's her motivation to want to join the HOT's, her reason to do things she otherwise would not have done and her story is integral to the main story.... Her relation with Josy is also influenced by these events and no matter if you're on her path or not she is a friend and you're even part of helping Maya in her "quest for tuition".
Judging BaDik as if it was a legal documentary seems just plain nitpicking to me....
then statistically the most likely outcome of leaving MC and Josy waiting outside is that they end up having sex in the bathroom...That meeting is going to make for some great drama!
This is DPC we are talking about. He won't hesitate to write a questionable story just for the sake of creating drama. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Jade tries to do screw up things if you rejected her. That is so in DPC's style that he wouldn't miss up that opportunity.from a game point of view it is very unlikely that MC's actions can decide Maya's fate in the middle of the game. but more importantly carrying on from here to the end of the game the double possibility of Maya being helped or not would be incredibly wasteful for DPC
so the most probable outcome is that it ends with nothing happening, rarely at the beginning of the chapter something important happens.
while from a narrative point of view Jade is a gender studies teacher who is supposed to harm a girl who precisely because of her sexuality has been mistreated and blackmailed by her father, i.e. she's supposed to do the worst possible from an ideological point of view. and all this simply because a student decided that it wasn't appropriate to continue having sex with a married teacher.
For God's sake, it's not impossible, but it would make Jade the worst villain of BADIK so far.
the fault of this is entirely DPC's, who kept on talking about this loan making it less and less credible. if the author keeps on talking about it adding details it's normal that even here they talk about it, almost in every chapter there was an addition on the matter.
if DPC had simply once told us that Maya's father controlled the money of her college enrollment nobody would have asked too many questions, instead DPC had to create the hyper drama of Maya being condemned to bankruptcy for life if she didn't obey her father...
then statistically the most likely outcome of leaving MC and Josy waiting outside is that they end up having sex in the bathroom...![]()
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but also 16 or 32 years, like one render a weekIf this game takes 8 years to make and we get to play a piece of it each year, that's fine (better than having to wait 8 years before we even get to play 1 minute of it).
Too many people act like 8 years (or 4 or 10 or whatever) is such a long time. Like they'll be dead before then (Mark Takagi, I'm sure you'll live to see the end). It's no time at all. Game of Thrones aired for 9 years, and that's been over for almost 3 years already.
This game will be over in no time, and you'll all be complaining about how long his next game is taking.![]()
since he's DPC it's impossible for him to write two stories: one in which Jade opposes and one in which she doesn't. the question is not how much sense it makes (there should be limits anyway...) but that there can't be two fates for Maya in the middle of the storyThis is DPC we are talking about. He won't hesitate to write a questionable story just for the sake of creating drama. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Jade tries to do screw up things if you rejected her. That is so in DPC's style that he wouldn't miss up that opportunity.
I mean he wrote the whole loan thing in such a way that everyone involved in it is either retarded. That the whole thing is taking like 9 episodes to get resolved is another thing. It went on for way too long and people are already tired of either seeing tuition or loan mentioned in the game.
Same with the Jill's blackmail storyline. Another senseless, retarded thing written just for the sake of drama and the postponing of content.
He may not realize it, but letting storylines play out for too long or recycling the same storylines over and over again are not really the signs of a good writer.
He openly bragged about how many branches or decisions his game had. Now if none of your previous decisions or branches you chose matter at this point, it's going to come back and bite him in the ass.since he's DPC it's impossible for him to write two stories: one in which Jade opposes and one in which she doesn't. the question is not how much sense it makes (there should be limits anyway...) but that there can't be two fates for Maya in the middle of the story
more impossible than seeing Magnar having sex with a LI of some game ever existed.
But that's a little disingenuous, you know DPC is churning out renders faster than any other game here.but also 16 or 32 years, like one render a week
the longer the better....
as a gamer there is not a single reason to wish that you have to wait longer (as if six months per chapter were not enough...), but maybe it's me who's strange...
But that's a little disingenuous, you know DPC is churning out renders faster than any other game here.
Pretty much most other games here are taking about the same time between updates, some a bit longer, and some bit shorter. But they all deliver less than this game, most definitely.
So why the fuck do people keep complaining about how long this game is taking?
4 years is how long it should take if he does 2 episodes a year (the current rate), and 8 years is based on people crying that we'll only see one episode a year.![]()
You're the one who said 8 years or 4 years is the same thing...
not me, so if you are the one who is ungenerous with DPC which should double the implementation time
that was clearly a provocation, as yours4 years is how long it should take if he does 2 episodes a year (the current rate), and 8 years is based on people crying that we'll only see one episode a year.
I'm suggesting it'll take as long as it takes.
You're talking about one render a week; it has nothing to do with what was being discussed.
but the ramifications have already been there, it's full of events that you only witness under certain conditions and choices. but the story has always remained granitically one.He openly bragged about how many branches or decisions his game had. Now if none of your previous decisions or branches you chose matter at this point, it's going to come back and bite him in the ass.
Especially if he makes it that Jade is mad at you no matter what you did at that point. Besides that is going to be so OOC of Jade that it's a whole another matter to discuss.
Or if Burke suddenly becomes an asshole to the MC, even though in the last 8 episodes he has never been anything but friendly and very diplomatic with him.
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Because it is distracting from the main story and the characters we are invested in and instead focusing on unknown characters that I don't give a toss about. the Interlude has already likely pushed the release date of ep. 9 to late 2022. That's why. Please don't tell me you're back on your "I don't care if it takes 12 months between episodes, I'm willing to wait! uWu!" theme. You had some sensible post nut clarity right after ep. 8 but it sounds like you're back to your old ways.Last time I wrote about the Interlude my post got deleted for being off topic...
Anyway, I don't know why you guys are making such a big negative deal about the Interlude.
DPC said it outright, he wanted to provide a bit of backstory (just like the prologues for many of the previous episodes), but this one warranted a long enough prologue to make it standalone. He also made that comment in the context of the story being about halfway.
This is not the new normal, it's just a novelty (his exact words were "a special part of the game").
Personally I reckon he would have done better to not even have announced it, and then released it midway through the development of the next episode. Like something to break the drought. Everyone would have played it and would be looking forward to more Zoey, instead he announced it way early and now we've all gotta wait while watching the less optimistic of us wailing about how they don't want Zoey.
And in the same vein, back on the topic of how long it will take DPC to finish the game, and how it's gonna take years: Most decent games take years to make, it's just you don't end up playing them piecemeal throughout the development.
If this game takes 8 years to make and we get to play a piece of it each year, that's fine (better than having to wait 8 years before we even get to play 1 minute of it).
Too many people act like 8 years (or 4 or 10 or whatever) is such a long time. Like they'll be dead before then (Mark Takagi, I'm sure you'll live to see the end). It's no time at all. Game of Thrones aired for 9 years, and that's been over for almost 3 years already.
This game will be over in no time, and you'll all be complaining about how long his next game is taking.![]()
I can picture that too.then statistically the most likely outcome of leaving MC and Josy waiting outside is that they end up having sex in the bathroom...![]()
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