VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lostanddamned]

Indeed she's going to suggest a GF swap with Sally for one night stands

She'll end up like "You know what, Sally can stay with you. I'll stay with Magnar. He's my Papi now."

And MC will be like:

 

[varage]

Basically you have to be a Chick, you need to do her tennis date, choose fight for Jill, to have went to her picnic date with her in episode 6 and then help her with her recital. Then you should get the option to choose her route.

You also need to date rape her which he tried to white night his way through.-kidding about date rape i mean the make out session when she's talking about dating rusty.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Basically you have to be a Chick, you need to do her tennis date, choose fight for Jill, to have went to her picnic date with her in episode 6 and then help her with her recital. Then you should get the option to choose her route.

for now it is apparently not necessary to help her with the recital, it is enough to console her afterwards...

 

[vogelbeest]

to say: Burke doesn't just give Maya a scholarship, that would only give extra time to solve the problem, but it wouldn't solve it. Maya needs 2 scholarships, one to attend and one to pay the loan

Now that's just overthinking the problem... Worst case scenario is her father getting the money she eventually needs to pay back for her education, she needs to pay that back eventually anyway so that doesn't change anything....
But the fact that remains is she will no longer be dependent on her father when she gets a scholarship so alot of her current problems get solved that way... The way to Josy is free and tuition is paid so she can continue her studies....

And aslong she is attending B&R she can prove she can't start paying back yet so if her father decides to say she doesn't study she can just prove her case and show proof of the scholarship or proof of attendance... Either the loan is for the full term and she can prove she does just that or the loan pays per semester and they will terminate further deposits but still refrain from demanding paybacks till her studies are completed, in that case the father will even receive less money and ultimately Maya will need to pay back less aswell!

 

[varage]

There is one thing that can solve all these plot problems and give this game the ending that it deserves. it starts with an F and ends with an E and DPC loves them can anyone guess?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Now that's just overthinking the problem... Worst case scenario is her father getting the money she eventually needs to pay back for her education, she needs to pay that back eventually anyway so that doesn't change anything....
But the fact that remains is she will no longer be dependent on her father when she gets a scholarship so alot of her current problems get solved that way... The way to Josy is free and tuition is paid so she can continue her studies....

And aslong she is attending B&R she can prove she can't start paying back yet so if her father decides to say she doesn't study she can just prove her case and show proof of the scholarship or proof of attendance... Either the loan is for the full term and she can prove she does just that or the loan pays per semester and they will terminate further deposits but still refrain from demanding paybacks till her studies are completed, in that case the father will even receive less money and ultimately Maya will need to pay back less aswell!

but now you're making assumptions just like the ones we'd be wrong to make...

of course with a scholarship (which we still don't know if Burke will want or will be able to give her) Maya would be in the ideal situation she thought she could get with Quinn's free tuition (which was just to buy her time), but there is still the problem of the loan to pay back

the father could continue to play dirty, and could do so because it is a double signature loan (he could re-discuss it, ask for an integration etc.)

however as you see you can't simply say that Maya's father controls the membership money. you have to deal with what we have been told.

Many for example think that the solution will be to simply tell Maya that she has been cheated.

 

[felicemastronzo]

There is one thing that can solve all these plot problems and give this game the ending that it deserves. it starts with an F and ends with an E and DPC loves them can anyone guess?

FettuccinE

 

[vogelbeest]

but there is still the problem of the loan to pay back

Currently she has to start paying back the loan after she finishes her studies but she is dependent on her father to pay for her to attend college, thats all leverage he has.... A scholarship takes away that leverage...
But it also means she will continue to study hence there will be no significant difference in paying back the loan....
She can start paying back the loan after her studies in both scenarios...

 

[BeingADikDik]

but now you're making assumptions just like the ones we'd be wrong to make...

of course with a scholarship (which we still don't know if Burke will want or will be able to give her) Maya would be in the ideal situation she thought she could get with Quinn's free tuition (which was just to buy her time), but there is still the problem of the loan to pay back

the father could continue to play dirty, and could do so because it is a double signature loan (he could re-discuss it, ask for an integration etc.)

however as you see you can't simply say that Maya's father controls the membership money. you have to deal with what we have been told.

Many for example think that the solution will be to simply tell Maya that she has been cheated.

I feel like I'm having a stroke reading these discussions about scholarships and loans.

When Maya and father took out the loan to pay tuition, the source of the loan PAID the tuition directly. The only one that needs to get paid back is the loan source. If Maya gets a scholarship, then those funds would pay back the loan source directly in lieu of Maya and father. The principal balance on the loan would decrease. If the scholarship can fully pay off the loan, then Maya's father has no financial leverage over her (though the family drama would persist and is the real issue that needs to be addressed, NOT the loan - Maya's approach to the problem is all wrong, as she's still running away from the core issue rather than directly confronting it).

 

[AchedCroissant]

I got the swan scene on the route where I didn't pursue any LI (not even the side-chicks). So that route will be interesting in the future, to see how it will turn out.

I was talking about the Quinn bench scene, where you see Bianca's boyfriend. Though that might be triggered by the roof scene in episode 4.

Oh yes this scene

But I don't know why you got another

 

[felicemastronzo]

Currently she has to start paying back the loan after she finishes her studies but she is dependent on her father to pay for her to attend college, thats all leverage he has.... A scholarship takes away that leverage...
But it also means she will continue to study hence there will be no significant difference in paying back the loan....
She can start paying back the loan after her studies in both scenarios...

because you assume that it is a normal student loan and the fact that it actually is is not confirmed anywhere. if it is (normal), her father cannot dispose of it as he pleases by deciding whether to pay the tuition fees each time or not.

everyone makes their own assumptions

I feel like I'm having a stroke reading these discussions about scholarships and loans.

When Maya and father took out the loan to pay tuition, the source of the loan PAID the tuition directly. The only one that needs to get paid back is the loan source. If Maya gets a scholarship, then those funds would pay back the loan source directly in lieu of Maya and father. The principal balance on the loan would decrease. If the scholarship can fully pay off the loan, then Maya's father has no financial leverage over her (though the family drama would persist and is the real issue that needs to be addressed, NOT the loan - Maya's approach to the problem is all wrong, as she's still running away from the core issue rather than directly confronting it).

If the money was already paid to BR Maya's father would have no leverage even now.

and Maya like any student would only have to pay off the loan at the end of her studies.

which is clearly not the case.

 

[Heycock]

(though the family drama would persist and is the real issue that needs to be addressed, NOT the loan - Maya's approach to the problem is all wrong, as she's still running away from the core issue rather than directly confronting it).

Wich would be the solution? I mean how she could solve the problem from that angle?

 

[BeingADikDik]

because you assume that it is a normal student loan and the fact that it actually is is not confirmed anywhere. if it is (normal), her father cannot dispose of it as he pleases by deciding whether to pay the tuition fees each time or not.

everyone makes their own assumptions


If the money was already paid to BR Maya's father would have no leverage even now.

and Maya like any student would only have to pay off the loan at the end of her studies.

which is clearly not the case.

B&R has already been paid. Schools don't let students enroll without paying their bills at the beginning of the semester.

The payment schedule is moot. Whether Maya is on the hook now or after she graduates, she perceives the same problem. In fact, if loan repayment is deferred until after graduation (as is usual), then that just extends the leverage her father has over her throughout her studies as she accumulates debt.

Again, the issue is really not financial - Maya needs to confront her father to resolve this issue.

 

[vogelbeest]

because you assume that it is a normal student loan and the fact that it actually is is not confirmed anywhere. if it is (normal), her father cannot dispose of it as he pleases by deciding whether to pay the tuition fees each time or not.

Not assuming here, Maya is clear about her situation : her father has the money from her loan and she needs his cooperation to pay or she cant study, if she can't study she needs to start paying back the loan....
That's the split she is in... she needs to study to not start paying back and she needs to stay away from Josy to keep her father paying so she can study....

It's irrelevant what the loan requirements are aslong she starts paying back when she either drops out or finishes her studies.

 

[Heycock]

Again, the issue is really not financial - Maya needs to confront her father to resolve this issue.

I see. You asume thats a posibility. That Maya didnt tried it already, and that Patrik is a reasonable guy who can change his mind. We dont have any reasons to think thats true. Actually its the oposite. Judging for the effort Maya did to solve the problem from a different way, it seems she would already contemplated a simplier solution.

 

[BeingADikDik]

I see. You asume thats a posibility. That Maya didnt tried it already, and that Patrik is a reasonable guy who can change his mind. We dont have any reasons to think thats true. Actually its the oposite. Judging for the effort Maya did to solve the problem from a different way, it seems she would already contemplated a simplier solution.

It doesn't matter. Maya needs to make clear to Patrick the position she in which she has been placed, and tell him why it is unacceptable. If the consequence is that she is unable to financially continue to attend B&R and forever destroy the father/daughter relationship, then that needs to be made clear to Patrick and the mother figure (assuming she's still in the picture). Derek also needs to stand up for his twin sister in a meaningful way.

Maya would rather find a way to get out from under her father without this kind of confrontation, which is immature and short-sighted. A reckoning is inevitable - might as well do it at the onset with all cards on the table.

 

[Pendrell]

Besides, do you get the Quinn scene after choosing Others on the Riona route? Because on my Camila route I did, even though I didn't help Quinn when she got robbed, so I think that's triggered by something else.

After choosing Others, you get the “Quinn screen” if you’ve been on Quinn’s route and not been rejected by her before the bench scene outside the library. You can have other SGs within the same playthrough, but Quinn is a necessary condition to end up with that screen.

The “MC alone” screen after choosing Others is any other playthrough where you’ve rejected or been rejected by all the MGs and either weren’t on Quinn’s path, or Quinn dumped you before the bench scene.

If you didn’t help Quinn in episode 6, but you’re saying you got the Quinn screen after choosing Others, the only explanation is a bug or mod.

 

[vogelbeest]

Again, the issue is really not financial - Maya needs to confront her father to resolve this issue.

The whole situation is a plain blackmail scenario, can't really describe it any more accurate...

 

[Heycock]

It doesn't matter. Maya needs to make clear to Patrick the position she in which she has been placed, and tell him why it is unacceptable. If the consequence is that she is unable to financially continue to attend B&R and forever destroy the father/daughter relationship, then that needs to be made clear to Patrick and the mother figure (assuming she's still in the picture). Derek also needs to stand up for his twin sister in a meaningful way.

Maya would rather find a way to get out from under her father without this kind of confrontation, which is immature and short-sighted. A reckoning is inevitable - might as well do it at the onset with all cards on the table.

His father already understood this. It was his plan in the first place. There is no need to made it clear to Patrick.

I think that confrontation would end as Maya already said how it would end: with her out of college and paying a loan for a degree she didnt get. Why? Well, couse Maya knows his father better than we do.

Maya would avoid that, wich is quite smart.

 

[ciberma7865]

It doesn't matter. Maya needs to make clear to Patrick the position she in which she has been placed, and tell him why it is unacceptable. If the consequence is that she is unable to financially continue to attend B&R and forever destroy the father/daughter relationship, then that needs to be made clear to Patrick and the mother figure (assuming she's still in the picture). Derek also needs to stand up for his twin sister in a meaningful way.

Maya would rather find a way to get out from under her father without this kind of confrontation, which is immature and short-sighted. A reckoning is inevitable - might as well do it at the onset with all cards on the table.

Wait you think that Maya is seeking a tuition in order to be kind to her father ? If she confront her father now she's homeless by the end of the semester with debt as a bonus. We"re not saying that Patrick isn't an issue (he clearly is) but he's not the issue. I will add that Maya finding a job isn't a solution too. Her father doesn't want her to work (her especially apparently Derek already had a job where he was the best employee) so even if she find a job you can easily imagine Patrick saying "you stop or no college"