- Apr 9, 2021
- 95
- 75
What about the *Universal Ren'Py Mod [1.5.1] (mod any Ren'Py game yourself)*, then ?I've noticed that IT might be THE definitive tool to really start to understand the mechanics better!1) If you want to investigate how the variables influence the game, don't use any mods. They deliberately alter the script(s), so won't give you an accurate insight into how the game is supposed to work.
BUT if it's not too much to ask, can you direct me to instead to a guide that can explain how to modify certain variables and how they work with each other in Ren'py games? (NOT talking about the documentation on their official website, I would like SOMETHING that had already been reworked by some """genius""" mind)
Thank you very much... in this way you would be very helpful to me!
For whom would it be *ridiculously complex*...?2) There is no comprehensive list of console commands/hacks, because it would be *ridiculously complex*, most variables aren't relevant enough to require alteration, and most people who want to cheat would use cheat mods.
From what I inherently understand, I believe that many of those variables in Ren'py games are only useful to developers for technicalities that don't interest the "end-player" but would it "cost so much" to create a universal guide (as close as possible to the rules on which development in Ren'py is based) to allow even the poorest of knowledge to become accustomed to it?
I think that even more convoluted mechanisms have been explained on this forum anyway, so this is a NOT a PROBLEM, in my opinion!
This is absolutely true, so why not provide the means to understand THOSE better?3) The risk of breaking a game when changing variables without understanding the ramifications is universal, not specific to this game.
Review the previous point for further insights and thoughts on this "major issue".
The post you quoted me in fact I had found it and that's exactly why I then replied to the thread in that way (let's say a bit 'bitter) because despite having spent a BIT of time on it to understand how to edit the ones that were inserted I was not able to grasp the basic concepts and annoyed I abandoned.4) Someone has posted all the variables (at least all the variables that are getting transferred to 0.9). They're not much use divorced of the context of how they're used though.
Surely it's my fault, but I don't think I'm the only one who had THAT feeling...
Is there really a need for such an advanced knowledge or is there something fundamentally wrong with my approach?
With much pleasure I will go to perform these steps even though I have done them often already... and as I said in this very long answer.5) If you want to understand how the game works in detail, then you need to extract the script files and interrogate them. The easiest way to do that is to use UnRen (or the newer fork), which will let you unpack the RPA archives (option 1) and then decompile the rpyc script files (option 2). You can then use a text editor like Atom or Notepad++ to examine/search the decompiled rpy script files and discover how certain variables may influence things in the game.
I have not yet grasped the logic of value insertion that theoretically should be crystal-clear with ease once you become familiar with how things works in the "Ren'py nfrastructure". For example, look ad the image below this very comment (↓).
Those are the variables that have been influenced in one of my last saves on Being a Dik 0.8.2 ("they" are a little bit all scattered and I think also erroneously modified with the cheat console).
So obviously from this kind of screens other than the most "glaring" values in the edit which are the ones with ([0/1] meaning on and off), how would I have figured out the rest of what they were referring to in "this mess"?
I look forward to new to clarify even this last doubt, thanks again Meushi and chat you soon!
Link to the uncompressed IMAGE to view it better (unfortunately the Chromium's cache AND the command for a full-page screenshot from the Developers' tools are limited in size and resolution so the image/screenshoot is cut but anyway for the list you can refer below in the spoiler section) →
You must be registered to see the links
This is the list, but is it really all of them? (Link to the save I'm talking about →
You must be registered to see the links
)You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Last edited: