ChipLecsap

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Did you get your account stolen by Mark or that Jill_Royce retard, mate? You get offended at every post, it's not like you to be such a bumboy. :Kappa:
I had to endure way worse from you, Just shut up and take it like a Man :LOL:.
But, hey up until this point I thought you are just being delusional, but it's turn out you are just a victim of using wrong eye cleaner :(. I see you now in a totally new light:LOL:
 
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Heycock

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Yeah more than likely Tybalt was lying because I doubt that several Preps with lot's of opportunity in their future would risk a Perjury charge for Tybalt. Also the fact that there was no fire, and therefore no evidence of a fire. Add to that there would never be a trial where the Preps could perjure themselves because there would have to be an investigation first and Tybalt's Father Stephen is the last person in the world that would want an investigation into what happened at that party.
From "Josy should be with Lucas couse he is rich", comes "rich kids don't lie".

This guy makes Tybault to look like Emiliano Zapata.
 
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Lostanddamned

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I had to endure way worse from you, Just shut up and take it like a Man :LOL:.
But, hey up until this point I thought you are just being delusional, but it's turn out you are just a victim of using wrong eye cleaner :(. I see you now in a totally new light:LOL:
You know I pity you, I never knew that you were dropped on your head as a baby. Explains your unhealthy obsession with Josey, who's not even yours. :unsure:

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll have DPC comission my special render: Steve and Josy in Steve's Mustang. :Kappa:
 

shazba

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Oh? Where have I been wrong?

The Student loan isn't 'authorial license' it's just bullshit. The discussions here have proved that repeatedly.

The Tybalt Lawsuit was bullshit too. Mostly because MC didn't start the sprinklers and Tybalt possessed zero evidence that he did. There were never any grounds for a suit. There was no standing to bring a suit. And MC didn't possess sufficient funds to warrant a claim.

DPC hasn't researched shit. His statement in the Q&A was a bald faced lie.
We all know the loan situation with Maya went off the rails. While I agree that DPC messed up his explanation since there's no reason for the father (who deals in car sales so would very likely understand how loans work) would actually get his loan terms wrong, and although it's possible, it's unlikely that Maya would just remember incorrectly and randomly get the loan terms wrong, it's really not such a big deal.

Did DPC fuck it up? Yes.

Did DPC double down and fuck it up more? Yes.

Is it truly important to the plot that a technicality in the retelling of a blonde bimbo's loan details is flawed? Not really.

Are people harping on it over and over like it's grounds for DPC to be hung drawn and quartered? Yes...

DPC's own words:

"Sometimes I write about a topic I think I know something about, then realize I'm talking out of my ass."

The loan would be one of those times.

Now the Tybalt blackmail...

It's not about research. Tybalt lied. There is 100% no doubt that Tybalt lied. We know there were no witnesses. We know there was not huge grounds for a lawsuit. We know Tybalt made it all up to trick Jill into dating him and avoiding the MC. We know Jill is naïve. It's not about research. It's about Tybalt being a snivelling cunt.

There’s also the oft-overlooked fact that a lot of these plot elements don’t have to be 100% true to have impact. The characters only have to believe they’re true.

Maya only has to believe she’s financially trapped by her father to be controlled by him. Jill/MC only have to believe Tybalt could sue to be blackmailed.

We can debate all the live long day the legal systems of DPC’s made up world but that isn’t what the plot hinges on. It hinges on characters believing these things to be true. The MC even brings up something mentioned above regarding legally it being Derek who is responsible for the party and Jill points out he will just have someone lie for him.

This isn’t about logic. The issues like the loan/blackmail aren’t about convincing us the reader of their legal validity. DPC’s job is to write a situation where we believe the characters believe a certain situation to be true and he’s done… an alright job here? Maybe… Maya and Jill are just dumb to fall for it but at least Jill eventually sees the light of day and shuts him down.

Regardless, debating for the upteenth time the fictional laws of the land is pointless but people keep dragging that back into things even when you try and discuss what the characters think.

I’m sick of attempts to discuss what characters think and feel being countered with “but I would have thought/felt this way so (insert character) is dumb and badly written because they didn’t think/feel how I would have in this situation.”
Agree 100%. I've been saying this for ages. DPC did get the loan technicalities wrong. Or Maya did. Or Patrick did. But it's not important.

The game has so much to offer. To get bogged down on a few technicalities... :rolleyes:

It's like what Bruce Lee says in "Enter the Dragon":

"Don't think. Feel! It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger or you will miss all of the heavenly glory."

If the plot elements don't have to be 100% true and anything DPC makes up is to be treated a gospel, then what was he researching? Why would he spend his valuable time researching if he's just going to make something up?

The answer of course is that he didn't research anything. He was lying. Welcome to logic 101
Whatever happens in DPC's story is gospel in his story. Even if it's wrong, it's what happens in his story.

Getting one aspect wrong in his story doesn’t mean he hasn’t researched other aspects of a story.

If I wrote about a loan situation, I wouldn’t research it since I’d rely on my current understand (having taken out a number of loans myself in the past), but who knows, I might still get it wrong.

But if I were to write about something like anal prolapse, I might have to do some research since I’ve never experienced that first hand.

Your logic is flawed. One mistake doesn’t prove he’s never researched anything for his game. Looks like you’ll be repeating Logic 101. :p
 
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I'm thinking that the pregnancy test is Bella's. She isn't pregnant now but was with her husband, but they lost the baby and led to their split. The locked room is a nursery.
 
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Mr. NoNose

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okay so I'm going crazy with all these comments. I did my first playthrough and ended up with Sage (because Jill wasn't an option D; ). Could ya'll break down for me all the possible endings to season 2? So Maya and Josy go together, but do you have to like choose one over the other at some point. Is it the same with Jill and Bella?
 

DarkKiller

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That version of "reformed" Quinn is quite controversial, yeah, but check out this one. My heart just melted when I saw it the first time :love: Though I still prefer her current haircut, I'm fine with whatever she needs to quit all that criminal shit
If she had that haircut and wasn't a bitch to everyone then maybe I would have a harder time deciding who my favourite LI is.
 
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Why do some think that they know better than the creator himself about certain plot points or storylines within the game?
The creator (in any medium) usually knows where he's going with something when he presents it, it's just that he knows what the end goal for a certain plotline is, but we, the players/readers, etc. don't (at least for a certain amount of time), so we can just speculate and think about the resolution in the future in the meantime.
Thus, saying that something 'doesn't make sense', or 'is a plothole' when you don't know the full extent and context of the story of what the creator has in mind, but just base your thinking on some bits and pieces of what you're given + your gut-feeling is quite foolish. Let the storylines develop first.
Theorizing, theory-crafting based on those bits and pieces and other things is ordinary and normal; prematurely claiming to know the author's/creator's story better than himself isn't.
 

DavDR

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We all know the loan situation with Maya went off the rails. While I agree that DPC messed up his explanation since there's no reason for the father (who deals in car sales so would very likely understand how loans work) would actually get his loan terms wrong, and although it's possible, it's unlikely that Maya would just remember incorrectly and randomly get the loan terms wrong, it's really not such a big deal.

Did DPC fuck it up? Yes.

Did DPC double down and fuck it up more? Yes.

Is it truly important to the plot that a technicality in the retelling of a blonde bimbo's loan details is flawed? Not really.

Are people harping on it over and over like it's grounds for DPC to be hung drawn and quartered? Yes...

DPC's own words:

"Sometimes I write about a topic I think I know something about, then realize I'm talking out of my ass."

The loan would be one of those times.

Now the Tybalt blackmail...

It's not about research. Tybalt lied. There is 100% no doubt that Tybalt lied. We know there were no witnesses. We know there was not huge grounds for a lawsuit. We know Tybalt made it all up to trick Jill into dating him and avoiding the MC. We know Jill is naïve. It's not about research. It's about Tybalt being a snivelling cunt.


Agree 100%. I've been saying this for ages. DPC did get the loan technicalities wrong. Or Maya did. Or Patrick did. But it's not important.

The game has so much to offer. To get bogged down on a few technicalities... :rolleyes:

It's like what Bruce Lee says in "Enter the Dragon":

"Don't think. Feel! It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger or you will miss all of the heavenly glory."


Whatever happens in DPC's story is gospel in his story. Even if it's wrong, it's what happens in his story.

Getting one aspect wrong in his story doesn’t mean he hasn’t researched other aspects of a story.

If I wrote about a loan situation, I wouldn’t research it since I’d rely on my current understand (having taken out a number of loans myself in the past), but who knows, I might still get it wrong.

But if I were to write about something like anal prolapse, I might have to do some research since I’ve never experienced that first hand.

Your logic is flawed. One mistake doesn’t prove he’s never researched anything for his game. Looks like you’ll be repeating Logic 101. :p
OK what was he researching? What else is there in the story that is so outside of normal everyday experience's that it would require research?

Also just because you are willing to swallow anything an author dishes up to you doesn't mean that everybody else is.
 
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HogRocket

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Why do some think that they know better than the creator himself about certain plot points or storylines within the game?
The creator (in any medium) usually knows where he's going with something when he presents it, it's just that he knows what the end goal for a certain plotline is, but we, the players/readers, etc. don't (at least for a certain amount of time), so we can just speculate and think about the resolution in the future in the meantime.
Thus, saying that something 'doesn't make sense', or 'is a plothole' when you don't know the full extent and context of the story of what the creator has in mind, but just base your thinking on some bits and pieces of what you're given + your gut-feeling is quite foolish. Let the storylines develop first.
Theorizing, theory-crafting based on those bits and pieces and other things is ordinary and normal; prematurely claiming to know the author's/creator's story better than himself isn't.
Ray Bradbury used to tell a story about some convention or talk he had given where, when it was over, a fan came up to him and argued with him about the meaning/message of "Fahrenheit 451". The guy kept claiming that Bradbury, the AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, was wrong in his "interpretation" of the meaning of the book.
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