PashafromRussia

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This game is the best i ever experienced as a Visual novel/dating sim, even without the lewd stuff. The story is awesomly written, and the art is so beautiful that I sometimes struggle with my hornyness fighting with my will to continue just for the story.
History is her weakest point. In principle, in all Western visual novels, the plot is rather mediocre and weak. When I want something serious, I usually read Kara no Shoujo. When something carefree and fun is BaDIK.
This is not a claim. It's just that all Western projects are bad at writing history. Because they are written by amateurs, not professional writers like in Japan.
 

Warscared

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History is her weakest point. In principle, in all Western visual novels, the plot is rather mediocre and weak. When I want something serious, I usually read Kara no Shoujo. When something carefree and fun is BaDIK.
This is not a claim. It's just that all Western projects are bad at writing history. Because they are written by amateurs, not professional writers like in Japan.
things are changing, but in the end of the day the japanese market is big enough for artists to prosper while the western market is not big enough for people to make a living if they do not cater to audiences specific kinks!

but its slowly changing BAD is one but leap of faith Summer´s gonne and a few others are raising the bar!
not on the bar of the Japanese but still in terms of development/grothw its been quite astonishing!

besides people need to work and try out to develop most of those japanese authors have written over a dozen works while the best in the west are at what? 2-5 stories so far?
problem is the lack of professionals and that is due to the lack of hard core money!

any manga done in japan is assured that if they reach a certain level they will be made into tv series and will have merchandise that triples the money, while in the west most people still depend on patreon!

since there is not enough money you do not have 2-5 companies scurring the market to turn vn´s into tv series get book/video comic releases and therefore active passionate well payed teams that can grab a text and a few examples of the caracthers renders and turn it into a full story in 2 weeks!

japan limit is how well the writter artist can deliver the text and give the samples of the caracthers there are publishers who will deal with everything!

in the last Q&A dpc even stated he had to be careful with legal issues, what does an artist as to worry about lawyer shit for? same for taxes or the technical skills to mass produce the renders?

he must do all because there is nobody that he can trust to do it properly!

same for oceanlab he had to redo half of the work because the person he worked with was not up to standard!

if it starts to become profitable enough companies will be born!

the other option is the Japanese start looking for authors outside of japan... but then only a limited amount of the authors truly appreciated in the west will get signed in!

@ possible mods!
yes this is off topic and at the same time is probably the most important mission of this site to spread new authors to new audiences so delete it at your own pleasure... you will have failed in your strategic mission to accomplish an operational victory... if you are unable to see the big picture its your own issue!

P.S: but probably that`s the best solution to get the best western authors to those Japanese publishers once some money starts trickling in and western authors can have some confidence in delegating responsibilities perhaps we will finally get speed and quality that get us BAD in a year or broken dreamers in 2 years instead of half a decade best scenario!

so no my friend its not that Japanese have better authors, they have a better and more well developed industry that releases their best authors from all the bullshit!
 
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mightybored

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Boys, what is the most popular theory about this?
Because it's not fucking random. DPC created a mini-scene of as many as 5 renders and even called the renders in the game code "surprise".
Who's hanging around MC window? If it was just Elena who went to her boyfriend, it wouldn't make much sense.
Is this Tanya?
Is that Quinn going to the Diks?
Your guesses.

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I can't see anyone, but I'll throw it out there that it's Zoey. She's got no idea that MC is on the other side of the tarp, though.
 

shazba

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Boys, what is the most popular theory about this?
Because it's not fucking random. DPC created a mini-scene of as many as 5 renders and even called the renders in the game code "surprise".
Who's hanging around MC window? If it was just Elena who went to her boyfriend, it wouldn't make much sense.
Is this Tanya?
Is that Quinn going to the Diks?
Your guesses.

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Just to point out, there were 73 renders with "surprise" in the sequence that this scene was part of; the last 5 in the sequence were this scene in the mc's bed. The rest of the sequences was the mc's "surprise" birthday party...

That still doesn't diminish the fact that these 5 frames were included, when 1 would have sufficed, so I also believe this is some sort of foreshadowing, but the filename has nothing to do with it.
 

felicemastronzo

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Boys, what is the most popular theory about this?
Because it's not fucking random. DPC created a mini-scene of as many as 5 renders and even called the renders in the game code "surprise".
Who's hanging around MC window? If it was just Elena who went to her boyfriend, it wouldn't make much sense.
Is this Tanya?
Is that Quinn going to the Diks?
Your guesses.

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since we are talking about DPC any theory is legitimate.

probably he wanted to mean that someone enters and exits from the DIKs mansion, probably related to the mole issue or directly to Vinnie

being part of the general plot (not related to Bella's visit for example) it is not sure that it will be specifically explained, but probably at some point it will make more sense.
 
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varage

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Well, i think is you who knows is wrong, you just don't realize yet. You started this conversation saying that the MC was an hypocrite and since then you defended him on every single act.

I quoted a couple of sentences couse i thought it was enough. Yet I see you didn't get my point, i don't say you defend cheaters in abstract, i say you acuse Josy of every single absurdely detail and overlook every sinlge fault of the MC. By doing so every single principle becomes relative, for Josy is inaceptable and for the MC is forgivable. Including fidelity. You understand now?.

I never denied that Josy or Maya are at fault with each other. That was never the argument. The argument is that they are not at fault with the MC, and that the MC cant hold any claim against them for their own faults. So you can say Josy is actually a cheater and you were questioning a cheater... but her cheating on Maya was never the point, so you actually weren't. You were questioning a girl for not telling her lover at wich college she went...



See? Why you have to argue if you see my point. It is a moral issue. After all, as the own MC sayd:



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Yes, if he feels like a cheater that's on him but he's in fact not one we've already established that he doesn't care about cheating just lying. It's all beside the point to be perfectly honest because i love Jose even if im berating her. The point of all these posts was never Jose's a bad person or Maya's a bad person or MC's a good person.

The point of every one of these posts were why did MC act like a chud and I think we've gotten to the bottom of it. Because they lie because Jose and Maya get back together while sweeping him under the rug like a dirty secret.
His anger was never about being a cheater it was about hurting Maya. Not knowing the scope of the full picture and sure you're right if Jose's boyfriend was Troy, he wouldn't give a shit nor should he because he'd be fine with hurting Troy. The only thing he cares about is hurting a friend.

These posts were always and foremost getting to the bottom of chapter 3's end scene's MC's head. My stance on cheating doesn't change if you're in a relationship keep your pants on no matter how persistent a Chad is. Because a Chad isn't responsible for your actions.

Also, I have to argue because for some reason you said I defend cheater's which I do not I find the act deplorable tbh. Even Jose's defending cheaters speech is cringe worthy during dinner night because if you're searching for happiness you don't cheat on someone to find it you leave that someone and accept the risk of being alone. That's how you find love.
 
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TuffyTenToes

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I will not repeat what a cool game is, that I highly recommend it, etc., all this is already clear.
I just wanted to share my personal impressions of the female characters.
First, and most importantly, almost all of them are "alive". It is very interesting to get to know their characters, discover them from different sides and get acquainted with their stories.
Secondly, the girls here are jealous of each other (yes, in different ways, yes, not all of them, but it is presented very naturally, as for me), but without obsession and with meaning.
Thirdly, everyone here will find something of their own. The girls are different, for almost every taste, so someone will surely sink into the soul, but not to me ... It was a disappointment for me that in such a game I could not find the female character I needed here.
Didn't know bots have feelings.
 
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27X

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History is her weakest point. In principle, in all Western visual novels, the plot is rather mediocre and weak. When I want something serious, I usually read Kara no Shoujo. When something carefree and fun is BaDIK.
This is not a claim. It's just that all Western projects are bad at writing history. Because they are written by amateurs, not professional writers like in Japan.
It's more that history isn't appreciated in the west. Also the visual medium in the west has never relied on application of present form as a derivation of past methodologies. Most visual artists in the west in particular sequential mediums like to believe the line of their methods are literally one generation old.
 

znar25

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I agree with you that true love doesn't really happen in such a short time.

But I assume that there was a serious interest between Josy and the MC since EP1.

Let's take a look at Josy. An awakened girl who has no problem meeting other people. Mmmmhh. She works with her crush for 2 months and suddenly develops contact issues. I've seen this happen many times in real life. Usually when there was a serious interest in a person. The only problem with Josy is that she thinks she is too short and she doesn't like her breasts either. With all the other guys this doesn't bother him, but with the MC it's different and she loses her confidence in his presence. This can be read well in EP5 and also that she finds the MC totally hot. So the whole thing is mutual.

Maya even explains it herself. She has dated other guys, but she hasn't developed feelings for any of them like she has for the MC. Is it love? Not yet, but serious interest.

The MC is introduced to us as a decent and somewhat shy young man. He never had many friends, as we later learn. With Zoey, there was only one girl with whom he could gain experience. He overcomes his shyness and confesses to Josy that he has had a crush on her for 2 months. Unbelievable! Hand on heart. That was brave for a guy like the MC. Equipped with more confidence, he meets Maya. To be honest, I can even understand Maya telling him she has a boyfriend. Maya doesn't want to get hit on, but probably always gets hit on by Horny Dogs. Then what I said above happens to Maya. This also creates a serious interest between Maya and the MC because he is different.

I agree with you that the MC is annoyed by the lies, he doesn't know yet why they lied. He was honest from the beginning and expects the same from the others. The MC's trust is shaken.
Also, (you might agree), that Maya and MC were forced to live together and thus they both learned a lot about each other at a very fast rate. By chance (if MC plays CHICK route), Maya learns what it like to be with a "great guy" (as Sage later tells Bella about CHICK MC).
 

znar25

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You guys who hated the "repair the mansion" resource management game, you do realize we're probably getting a "get ready for the Halloween party" resource management game in Season 3, right?

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Note: sidebar; the god damn ice maker on the HOTS fridge was never fixed. Would have thought MC would have taken care of that. :p
 

sixart

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were forced to live together
I think this is a little too much... it was the quickest and most comfortable solution... in other and good words the " bestest " :KEK: Being " forced " together that has some depth dude... though let me tell you I would have picked said " bestest " solution too in a heartbeat ! ;):ROFLMAO:
 

vogelbeest

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Boys, what is the most popular theory about this?
Because it's not fucking random. DPC created a mini-scene of as many as 5 renders and even called the renders in the game code "surprise".
It's the same person that did the blackmail to Chad/Dawe i guess... Atleast that's the only thing that would make sense now.
Probably it's Vinnie or atleast someone working with him.... Just my two cents, but seems to me it's not random.
 
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Mieko_Donnie

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There's someone walking by the window - it's rather difficult to see it on single screen, but since there's a sequence of them in the game (three of them one after other), you can see that different lamps covered by somebody moving outside.
Just saw it on my game, you're right wtf.
It's Chad :KEK:
 
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