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The biggest questions the interlude can answer is, is Zoey blue hair natural and are her boobs fake? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Happy up date eve I think the interlude will end up being very enjoyable at least I hope so during this horrible time. Then comes the fun of waiting for EP9 I just hope it comes before I start seeing Josy shape dots then of again those sound very nice:love::love:
 

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Anybody else is experiencing problems with the site right about now, suddenly? some images are not loading up and sometimes when I reload the page it says some bullshit about certificates and that my connection is not private.
Maybe the forum is getting ready for tomorrow you know when episode 8 came out there was so much traffic on the forum that it was working badly for like 1 week or 2

The biggest questions the interlude can answer is, is Zoey blue hair natural and are her boobs fake? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Happy up date eve I think the interlude will end up being very enjoyable at least I hope so during this horrible time. Then comes the fun of waiting for EP9 I just hope it comes before I start seeing Josy shape dots then of again those sound very nice:love::love:
She is black haired :cry::ROFLMAO:
 

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I just don't get it.
  • Did people skip the mc introducing his dad and his family situation at the beginning of episode 1? Who cares about Neil anyway!
  • Did they bail on the scene with Jade and Stephen fighting at the beginning of episode 3? I mean who wants to see domestic issues between a husband and a wife!
  • Did they completely ignore the camping scene with Maya, Josey, Derek and Lynn that made up the episode 4 prologue? I mean, why introduce Lynn, we'll probably never see her again!
  • What about the episode 5 prologue where Rusty & Tommy form the DIKs and we get to see Vinny and Nick joining up? Was that too much to endure? The mc hasn't even met Vinny, so what's the point?
  • Then there was episode 6's prologue where we got an insight into Rox and Buddy, did people want to skip that the first time too? Rox is dead, and Buddy is just a low life drug dealer, why bother?
  • Then in episode 7's prologue we got to meet Lana. Did people just fast forward through that scene? I mean Lana's dead, we can't fuck her right?
  • And most recently, the library scene with Bella and James made up the prologue for episode 8. Did it kill people to sit through that? I mean fuck James!
The Interlude is just another one of these prologues, giving us a back story for a character we know of, but don't know much about.

The thing is, the mc knows her very well, but we the player, hardly know her at all. If she showed up on the mc's doorstep, he'd be all kinds of things, thrilled to see his close/only friend from years back, maybe scared that he still has feelings for her while having (mildly) committed himself to another girl, maybe horny because she was indeed a good lay.

I mean the mc is gonna have a complex reaction to her return because she means a lot to him. But this, "Fuck her, I'm not interested in her" attitude means some players have failed to understand there is a story here.

We're slowly learning about the people in the mc's life:
  • His new acquaintances (the gang at B&R),
  • His old acquaintances (Zoey, Neil),
  • People he hasn't met yet (Vinny, Buddy); and
  • People he missed out on meeting all together (Rox, Lynette).
DPC has a story to tell here. Each character is part of the story. If you don't let him tell the story, the story is gonna be fucked up.

The most ironic thing here is we're getting the episode 9 prologue much sooner in the development cycle than any of the other prologues were released. Definitely a reason to be whining like little bitches... :rolleyes:
 

ename144

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Okay, non-topic related question. Is there a game tag-genre for games that have you manually play the game, like Treasure of Nadia, Evenicle 1, The Awakening, those types of games with maps, that you have to find clues and move in stupid mazes and temples, I'd like to avoid these kind of games at all costs. [IMPORTANT] I am not talking about free-roam, as BADIK has, tho.
I think "Sandbox" comes closest, but even that is a bit imprecise.


I can't take people seriously when they say they are not going to skip the update. You know you are going to download it. You are going to boot it up. Just soon as you hear that first guitar riff from Punk Rock Flu you are gonna be on board. If for no other reason than to bitch about it here on the board.
Eh, maybe. Normally I'd agree, but this time I sort of see their argument. From what we know (which is admittedly very little) this is an very self-contained chapter. It won't really give us a lot of insight into the rest of the game, so putting it off for a while has relatively low impact if you aren't eager to see Zoey.

I do plan to play the Interlude tomorrow (unless CoBD releases as well), but I certainly don't feel the anticipation I normally would. If there were other demands on my time this wouldn't be a particularly high priority.


I just don't get it.
  • Did people skip the mc introducing his dad and his family situation at the beginning of episode 1? Who cares about Neil anyway!
  • Did they bail on the scene with Jade and Stephen fighting at the beginning of episode 3? I mean who wants to see domestic issues between a husband and a wife!
  • Did they completely ignore the camping scene with Maya, Josey, Derek and Lynn that made up the episode 4 prologue? I mean, why introduce Lynn, we'll probably never see her again!
  • What about the episode 5 prologue where Rusty & Tommy form the DIKs and we get to see Vinny and Nick joining up? Was that too much to endure? The mc hasn't even met Vinny, so what's the point?
  • Then there was episode 6's prologue where we got an insight into Rox and Buddy, did people want to skip that the first time too? Rox is dead, and Buddy is just a low life drug dealer, why bother?
  • Then in episode 7's prologue we got to meet Lana. Did people just fast forward through that scene? I mean Lana's dead, we can't fuck her right?
  • And most recently, the library scene with Bella and James made up the prologue for episode 8. Did it kill people to sit through that? I mean fuck James!
Sure, but size matters. Those prologues didn't take an hour to play through. If we had to sit through 60 minutes of James and Bella delicately avoiding any actual information about their marriage while playing a book sorting mini-game, I would have been a lot harsher in my critique of Episode 8.

The Interlude is just another one of these prologues, giving us a back story for a character we know of, but don't know much about.

The thing is, the mc knows her very well, but we the player, hardly know her at all. If she showed up on the mc's doorstep, he'd be all kinds of things, thrilled to see his close/only friend from years back, maybe scared that he still has feelings for her while having (mildly) committed himself to another girl, maybe horny because she was indeed a good lay.

I mean the mc is gonna have a complex reaction to her return because she means a lot to him. But this, "Fuck her, I'm not interested in her" attitude means some players have failed to understand there is a story here.
I understand the story just fine, thank you. The problem is, you can't make me care about a character by subjecting me to her for a prolonged period of time. You need to interest me in the character first, otherwise the experience will at best be a tedious chore.

I know who Zoey is and why she's important to the MC, but I still don't care about her. The MC has spent the whole of Season 2 (allegedly) developing a relationship with the LIs and reached the point where he felt one was serious enough to commit to. IMHO, that means the new girl(s) must be at least as serious as it ever was with Zoey, since that's the only conceivable metric by which the MC could reach such a decision.

Unfortunately, that leaves Zoey out in the cold, and I don't see any way the Interlude could change that - short of retconning the game or including scenes with Zoey and the main cast interacting in the present. The former is (hopefully) ridiculous, and the latter seems impractical. Hence my concern over the direction of the story.

We're slowly learning about the people in the mc's life:
  • His new acquaintances (the gang at B&R),
  • His old acquaintances (Zoey, Neil),
  • People he hasn't met yet (Vinny, Buddy); and
  • People he missed out on meeting all together (Rox, Lynette).
DPC has a story to tell here. Each character is part of the story. If you don't let him tell the story, the story is gonna be fucked up.

The most ironic thing here is we're getting the episode 9 prologue much sooner in the development cycle than any of the other prologues were released. Definitely a reason to be whining like little bitches... :rolleyes:
Indeed, but the emphasis should be on slowly. The characters you mentioned have been explored at the pace of the overall story. We didn't need a special episode to learn Quinn's tragic origins, and I don't think Episode 6 would have been better if we got one anyway.

DPC had plenty of time to establish Zoey more gradually, but he put it off until now. That ups the Twist(tm), but it also ups our expectations AND increases the degree of difficulty. Hopefully he'll be up to the task and will pull this off anyway, but based on his track record I'm not feeling all that optimistic. DPC tends to struggle with big twists.
 

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I think "Sandbox" comes closest, but even that is a bit imprecise.



Eh, maybe. Normally I'd agree, but this time I sort of see their argument. From what we know (which is admittedly very little) this is an very self-contained chapter. It won't really give us a lot of insight into the rest of the game, so putting it off for a while has relatively low impact if you aren't eager to see Zoey.

I do plan to play the Interlude tomorrow (unless CoBD releases as well), but I certainly don't feel the anticipation I normally would. If there were other demands on my time this wouldn't be a particularly high priority.



Sure, but size matters. Those prologues didn't take an hour to play through. If we had to sit through 60 minutes of James and Bella delicately avoiding any actual information about their marriage while playing a book sorting mini-game, I would have been a lot harsher in my critique of Episode 8.


I understand the story just fine, thank you. The problem is, you can't make me care about a character by subjecting me to her for a prolonged period of time. You need to interest me in the character first, otherwise the experience will at best be a tedious chore.

I know who Zoey is and why she's important to the MC, but I still don't care about her. The MC has spent the whole of Season 2 (allegedly) developing a relationship with the LIs and reached the point where he felt one was serious enough to commit to. IMHO, that means the new girl(s) must be at least as serious as it ever was with Zoey, since that's the only conceivable metric by which the MC could reach such a decision.

Unfortunately, that leaves Zoey out in the cold, and I don't see any way the Interlude could change that - short of retconning the game or including scenes with Zoey and the main cast interacting in the present. The former is (hopefully) ridiculous, and the latter seems impractical. Hence my concern over the direction of the story.


Indeed, but the emphasis should be on slowly. The characters you mentioned have been explored at the pace of the overall story. We didn't need a special episode to learn Quinn's tragic origins, and I don't think Episode 6 would have been better if we got one anyway.

DPC had plenty of time to establish Zoey more gradually, but he put it off until now. That ups the Twist(tm), but it also ups our expectations AND increases the degree of difficulty. Hopefully he'll be up to the task and will pull this off anyway, but based on his track record I'm not feeling all that optimistic. DPC tends to struggle with big twists.
Episode 5's prologue was the longest so far, running for about 11 minutes, as it gave us the history as to how the DIKs were formed, and it gave us a look at Vinny's behaviour, so sure, a 60 minute intro is a lot longer, but I'd be shocked if it was simply boring.

I'll admit that none of these prologues are much to sit through on subsequent play throughs, because there is no interaction, no mc, and no lewd scenes. They are important to the game as it helps to set up the narrative, but they aren't the most fun part of the game.

I'm thinking this prologue will be a little different though. I'd be a little surprised if it was just 60 minutes of us reading dialogue between Zoey and a bunch of randoms.

If I was doing this, and I gotta say DPC is a lot better at this than I am, I'd play it out like this:
  • Rewind to mc's past and play out the initial scenes of the mc meeting Zoey, and give the player a few choices with their interaction.
  • Fast forward to when they are old enough to fuck, and play that out, in a much more interactive way than the flashback when the mc was telling Bella his story.
  • Give the mc a few more choices with Zoey that will help set the expectations for their future.
  • Have a slightly emotional goodbye scene with some interaction as to how they say goodbye and how the mc feels about it.
  • Skip ahead to Zoey settling in to San Diego, give her a bit of an adventure.
  • End with her showing up on Neil's doorstep.
After that, the players are ready for Zoey and all the trouble she'll bring. Some will like her, some won't, that goes for every single character in the game.

Regarding the speed at which DPC has seemingly decided to enamour us with Zoey, there are always techniques to pull that kind of thing off.
 
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I really think that official Patreon posts (eg. repost) on threads on F95zone should come with a tag, that is searchable.
eg. Open topic, click [Official Patreon] and it shows the reposts. Would be like yiff.party but for F95zone threeads.
 

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I really think that official Patreon posts (eg. repost) on threads on F95zone should come with a tag, that is searchable.
eg. Open topic, click [Official Patreon] and it shows the reposts. Would be like yiff.party but for F95zone threeads.
There should be a release of the Interlude (mini episode / prologue) later today.

But just for the record, if you go to your user preferences, change your search order to be by date (rather than the default "relevance"), then search for N7's posts in this thread, you'll find his weekly status updates a lot more easily.

Here's the latest status update post:

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-8-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-7613049
 
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Episode 5's prologue was the longest so far, running for about 11 minutes, as it gave us the history as to how the DIKs were formed, and it gave us a look at Vinny's behaviour, so sure, a 60 minute intro is a lot longer, but I'd be shocked if it was simply boring.

I'll admit that none of these prologues are much to sit through on subsequent play throughs, because there is no interaction, no mc, and no lewd scenes. They are important to the game as it helps to set up the narrative, but they aren't the most fun part of the game.

I'm thinking this prologue will be a little different though. I'd be a little surprised if it was just 60 minutes of us reading dialogue between Zoey and a bunch of randoms.
Yeah, I assume we'll be doing something interactive this time; an hour long flashback would be murder. The real question is if we'll be the MC, Zoey, or something else.

If I was doing this, and I gotta say DPC is a lot better at this than I am, I'd play it out like this:
  • Rewind to mc's past and play out the initial scenes of the mc meeting Zoey, and give the player a few choices with their interaction.
  • Fast forward to when they are old enough to fuck, and play that out, in a much more interactive way than the flashback when the mc was telling Bella his story.
  • Give the mc a few more choices with Zoey that will help set the expectations for their future.
  • Have a slightly emotional goodbye scene with some interaction as to how they say goodbye and how the mc feels about it.
  • Skip ahead to Zoey settling in to San Diego, give her a bit of an adventure.
  • End with her showing up on Neil's doorstep.
After that, the players are ready for Zoey and all the trouble she'll bring. Some will like her, some won't, that goes for every single character in the game.
Eh, why not go for some last minute speculation. I'm guessing we'll play as Zoey:
  • We'll get a relatively short montage of the MC and Zoey's time together
  • The main action will start just before Zoey leaves. He'll decide to stay, we'll get a sad sex scene, and then Zoey is off to San Diego. (If we do play as Zoey, the MC's actions/dialog here will vary a bit depending on his Status and Affinity in the imported save.)
  • Zoey settles in and meets people, probably surfs a lot, and thinks of the MC often.
  • Zoey gets her new boyfriend, who is extremely camera shy.
  • Some sort of plot will emerge that will eventually propel Zoey back to the MC's hometown.
  • Zoey will visit Neil, explain anything we missed, and ask about the MC. His answer will somehow lead us to the cliffhanger.
Not very detailed, but it's not like we have much to work with.

Personally, if I were going to try writing this, I think I'd try to keep it from the MC's perspective.
  • It would start similarly, but we'd as the MC, giving us a chance to establish his original relationship with Zoey
  • Zoey's time in San Diego would be narrated to the MC by Zoey (before they lost contact with each other). We'd get the chance to establish the MC's feelings towards Zoey after her departure.
  • The final segment, covering Zoey's departure from San Diego and return, would be narrated to the MC by Neil following his meeting with Zoey.
  • The MC would then get to choose how he'll reach out to Zoey now that he knows she's back, discussing it with either his chosen girl(s) or Derek. They'd reference the meeting with the Burkes, which would then lead us into Episode 9 picking up where we left off in Episode 8.
I guess we'll see if either of those ideas are anything like DPC's script soon enough.
 

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Yeah, I assume we'll be doing something interactive this time; an hour long flashback would be murder. The real question is if we'll be the MC, Zoey, or something else.


Eh, why not go for some last minute speculation. I'm guessing we'll play as Zoey:
  • We'll get a relatively short montage of the MC and Zoey's time together
  • The main action will start just before Zoey leaves. He'll decide to stay, we'll get a sad sex scene, and then Zoey is off to San Diego. (If we do play as Zoey, the MC's actions/dialog here will vary a bit depending on his Status and Affinity in the imported save.)
  • Zoey settles in and meets people, probably surfs a lot, and thinks of the MC often.
  • Zoey gets her new boyfriend, who is extremely camera shy.
  • Some sort of plot will emerge that will eventually propel Zoey back to the MC's hometown.
  • Zoey will visit Neil, explain anything we missed, and ask about the MC. His answer will somehow lead us to the cliffhanger.
Not very detailed, but it's not like we have much to work with.

Personally, if I were going to try writing this, I think I'd try to keep it from the MC's perspective.
  • It would start similarly, but we'd play from the MC's perspective giving us a chance to establish his original relationship with Zoey
  • Zoey's time in San Diego would be narrated to the MC by Zoey (before they lost contact with each other). We'd get the chance to establish the MC's feelings towards Zoey after her departure.
  • The final segment, covering Zoey's departure from San Diego and return, would be narrated to the MC by Neil following his meeting with Zoey.
  • The MC would then get to choose how he'll reach out to Zoey now that he knows she's back, discussing it with either his chosen girl(s) or Derek. They'd reference the meeting with the Burkes, which would then lead us into Episode 9 picking up where we left off in Episode 8.
I guess we'll see if either of those ideas are anything like DPC's script soon enough.
I'm definitely not partial to be "playing the game as Zoey". Watching her background story is one thing, assuming her role... definitely not my cup of tea.

Since it's a bit of a prologue, I'd be surprised if it was narrated to the mc. We usually just witness the prologue scenes omnisciently, and the narration-style story telling has been left to Lynette's journal (with exceptions being the mc telling Bella about Zoey and the whacky sex scene with Riona narrating the action).

Personally, I'm quite looking forward to it. Definitely not full episode hype mode, but a subdued, "this should be good" kinda looking forward.
 

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Eh, why not go for some last minute speculation. I'm guessing we'll play as Zoey:
  • We'll get a relatively short montage of the MC and Zoey's time together
  • The main action will start just before Zoey leaves. He'll decide to stay, we'll get a sad sex scene, and then Zoey is off to San Diego. (If we do play as Zoey, the MC's actions/dialog here will vary a bit depending on his Status and Affinity in the imported save.)
  • Zoey settles in and meets people, probably surfs a lot, and thinks of the MC often.
  • Zoey gets her new boyfriend, who is extremely camera shy.
  • Some sort of plot will emerge that will eventually propel Zoey back to the MC's hometown.
  • Zoey will visit Neil, explain anything we missed, and ask about the MC. His answer will somehow lead us to the cliffhanger.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

or invisible...:unsure:

there has to be something that ties the interlude to what we've done so far, to the great choice of the eighth chapter.

that's why i think the closing of the prologue will be about MC's present, for example with Zoey looking at some pictures on MC's social networks related to the route he's following

according to me we will "play" Zoey essentially in minigames, not in the choices that will make, it would make little sense if they were important choices with consequences
 

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I don't know if this is overkill, but what if Zoey is related to others like: Tommy, Vinny, Quinn, Buddy or Lana. that whole relationship can work as an impetus to get the MC involved in the drug plot and in turn make Zoey more important than a boom in the MC's relationships
 

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I don't know if this is overkill, but what if Zoey is related to others like: Tommy, Vinny, Quinn, Buddy or Lana. that whole relationship can work as an impetus to get the MC involved in the drug plot and in turn make Zoey more important than a boom in the MC's relationships
The word is connected, not related :D

I don't know maybe she is involved in gunpowder plot to blow up B&R because they didn't accept Steve.
 
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