VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Oliver Wendell Homely

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MorbidViews21 said:
Yes book readers sometimes shit on the live action counterpart. But book readers also sometimes love the live action counterpart. Most movies are based off a book of some sort or a comic. Good movies come out all the time.

Yes, if DC can get Double A or Triple A voice actors, it would take the game to the next level. Hearing my mcs name or pet names, i could care less about that. But like you said, it will be optional.

I also agree that good voice acting will be achievable by AI in the future, but that won't happen for a long time. 20-40 years imo. Maybe longer.
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I won't argue the point any further, as it's a matter of taste. I'm perfectly content to do the voices in my head, but can't argue that others are wrong to want to hear actors do them. Sadly, it would certainly lengthen development time.

Re AI voice acting, to have an AI "act" out a line in a way that is completely indistinguishable from a human may be a couple of decades off, sure, but I was talking about a voice acting simulator that allows the dev to control it. I think that is probably right around the corner, if not already viable. There are already games (like Fallout 4 and The Outer World) that include characters who will say your MC's custom name. And apps that read text already sound pretty human and can read naturally. Enhancements that will add emotion and nuance to the readings will need to be done by the dev, so rather than hire a bunch of voice actors, the devs would instead hire a technical voice "director" who would set all the lines so that they are "performed" appropriately (perhaps even brilliantly).
 
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Ilhares said:
While I haven't seen anything from DPC directly addressing and confirming it (not in the last year+ at any rate), the general consensus is 2/3 or 1/2. He could wrap it up in the next 4 episodes, which would make Season 3 the last, or he might stretch it to a full 4 seasons, but I don't think anybody expects it would last longer than that.
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Thanks, yeah the game so far does feel about half to 2/3rds through the story. I'm enjoying it so if they want to make it 12 seasons that would be fine by me too, haha.
 
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MorbidViews21 said:
Yes book readers sometimes shit on the live action counterpart. But book readers also sometimes love the live action counterpart. Most movies are based off a book of some sort or a comic. Good movies come out all the time.

Yes, if DC can get Double A or Triple A voice actors, it would take the game to the next level. Hearing my mcs name or pet names, i could care less about that. But like you said, it will be optional.

I also agree that good voice acting will be achievable by AI in the future, but that won't happen for a long time. 20-40 years imo. Maybe longer.
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but how many games have good voices? in the genre of BADIK almost none.

BADIK in particular would need a cast so varied that to have decent actors the expense would not be indifferent.

maybe it will be a thought that DPC will be able to do at the end of the game (so in 2050-never), to relaunch the game, but I doubt it.

at the moment it would cost him an effort (since he does not like to work with others) that would hardly be repaid.
 
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MorbidViews21 said:
Good voice acting would actually take this game, to the next level. Pretty much most of top tier visual novels(Japanese) are voice acted. Voice acting this game when its all done is a huge task, but i think it will be worth it. That being said, I doubt it actually gets done. DPC has seemed to lost a bit of interest in voice acting the game, based off his latest Q&A. Mainly, because the game is getting bigger and bigger.
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Potentially. Highly unlikely though for several reasons. First Japan have an actual industry for VNs, its huge in comparison, and ontop of that it was a consideration and decided in development before they even started making it. Plus the voice acting itself, it got producers and writers that work through problems, its an entirely new kind of production, its not just a script and a woman reading it.

Thats such a big fundamental difference between a game that have been out for years already, with set expectations and an audience that have their own distinct impressions of every character already. Its an incredible gamble at this point.

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It doesn't matter if players have had a mental voice for characters for years. Book readers have their medium get live action all the time. Waiting years or decades to get it live action. Their fine with it, as long as it's good.
Like i said, good voice acting would make this game come alive and take it to the next level. The only negative i see, is that it will take away time for his new project(which won't come for a very long time).
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What are you even talking about? Sure things get adapted for a different medium all the time. Thats not even remotely the same thing.

Adding voices now would be akin to swapping the actors midway in every damn scene. It would be incredibly jarring and bad, alienate people left and right to their favorite characters.

BaDik wouldnt be adapted. It would effectively have an entire recast, midway in the movie.

Any new game could have voices. But not this one, not now.
 
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PashafromRussia said:
The teaser for the new episode depicts three girls we saw earlier in episode 8.

I don't think the whole season was dedicated to them (maybe MC 'll let fuck one of them, but in general we don't care about them).
I would put my teeth on the fact that the episode will be dedicated to side girls and what temptations MC will be subjected to after deciding to date one of the main girls.
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I agree, and I wouldn't be surprised if the decision gets taken out of our hands even. Or at least they will create rumors around the MC which test his relationship.
 
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Green Isosceles said:
Or at least they will create rumors around the MC which test his relationship.
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Why is that a rumor if you go and fuck them all ? It became a fact ! :p

Who cares there is a rumor if it's just a lie ? Especially when you are in a relationship these things come to light one way or the other... :rolleyes::LOL:
 
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GeneralCuiJM said:
There are already games (like Fallout 4 and The Outer World) that include characters who will say your MC's custom name.
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In the case of Fallout, I believe there is an actual list of names that they supported, which were all individually recorded by the VA, it can't adapt to whatever random name you throw at it. Most TTS systems can't pronounce things correctly without an extensive library full of rules for specific words, either.

But, in time, it may get there. Deepfake tech will surely assist in that part of things, so one day we'll be able to toggle all of our MC's internal monologues to sound like James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman. Or if you're a real sadist, Richard Attenborough.
 
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d3philer said:
Haven't seen Napoleon Dynamite since that scene when Bella btfos him out of the library, was gonna ask dalli_x with how many out of the main cast he is related with and why is he the big bad mastermind of the entire series.
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Okay now I'm curious... which one is that bloke and what answer can dalli_x cook up !
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Ilhares said:
In the case of Fallout, I believe there is an actual list of names that they supported, which were all individually recorded by the VA, it can't adapt to whatever random name you throw at it. Most TTS systems can't pronounce things correctly without an extensive library full of rules for specific words, either.

But, in time, it may get there. Deepfake tech will surely assist in that part of things, so one day we'll be able to toggle all of our MC's internal monologues to sound like James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman. Or if you're a real sadist, Richard Attenborough.
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If and when it gets here, I'll still turn it off, because I can read much faster than any actor can speak, and I'll be pissed because it took so much longer to download and ate up so much more hard-drive space.

This wouldn't be like going from silent movies to talkies. I don't play porn games for the acting. Ooh, doesn't Richard Burton sound great as me! Nah! Don't listen to voice acting in the games that have it; wouldn't listen to it in this one either.
 
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dalli_x said:
Why don't you finally come up with something yourself, or are you incapable of doing so? :rolleyes:

Always only no, no , no etc. to read from you is boring in the long run.:sleep:
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I already made my point on this... I don't come up with things I leave that part to you and many others... I follow the game as it is I'm not on a wild goose chase :KEK: Even if it's boring in the long run... :rolleyes::p Blurting thousand and one theories and hoping one will hit... is a waste of time in my eyes ( not necessarily in yours though ) so I patiently await what story DPC wants to tell me... ;)
 
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