VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lostanddamned]

Drama theories:
1. Jill is adopted, because of the shame that her sister bring to her family
2. Her sister is actually MC's mother
3. Isabella & Neill were couple back in the days... and they loved each other deeply
4. The relationship between Bella & Neill probably is the reasons behind the death of MC's mother and the missing husband of Bella.
5. Neill is not the biological father of MC, his partner is, MC's mother slept with both of them during the renovation

Dude like all of these have been mentioned and discussed over and over again before.

1. Sounds really implausible. We've already had flashbacks of Jill, so I'm just going to say no.
2. Is impossible due to Patreon reasons.
3. Is a theory of mine, but it hasn't been hinted or backed up by anything before, so until MC brings Bella back home with him this one is a no.
4. Just no.
5. This one could be true, but not with the Lynette part.

 

[dalli_x]

Damn, haven't seen this one.
dalli_x beware or someone is going to take your spot.

3. I have already written it myself.
4. is also new for me. However, this does not even make sense to me and that means something.

 

[citizenofncc]

Dude like all of these have been mentioned and discussed over and over again before.

1. Sounds really implausible. We've already had flashbacks of Jill, so I'm just going to say no.
2. Is impossible due to Patreon reasons.
3. Is a theory of mine, but it hasn't been hinted or backed up by anything before, so until MC brings Bella back home with him this one is a no.
4. Just no.
5. This one could be true, but not with the Lynette part.

1. Jill could be adopted as a baby, there is no evidence of that she isn't...
2. if Jill is adopted there is no patreon reasons...

 

[sixart]

9000 posts

You mean 9000 pages of this thread right ? 9000 post means fuck all !

Drama theories:
1. Jill is adopted, because of the shame that her sister bring to her family
2. Her sister is actually MC's mother
3. Isabella & Neill were couple back in the days... and they loved each other deeply
4. The relationship between Bella & Neill probably is the reasons behind the death of MC's mother and the missing husband of Bella.
5. Neill is not the biological father of MC, his partner is, MC's mother slept with both of them during the renovation
6. Burke know about the whole situation between Neill, Bella & MC's mother, that's why he has all this power in B&R, because he keeps the Royce secret safe.

Now this is just ridiculous from the beginning till it's end... d3philer ^ this might be a prime example why I'm reluctant to be active... this is waste of space / time / assets / whatnot and even if the majority isn't this extreme but surely wondering into that direction...

 

[memegamerfun]

Has anyone put forward the theory that Derek is the bad guy? Or that Bella has James body in a freezer in that locked room in her house?

 

[AchedCroissant]

Has anyone put forward the theory that Derek is the bad guy? Or that Bella has James body in a freezer in that locked room in her house?

Yes

 

[TuffyTenToes]

Jesus christ, you guys ever take a break??

 

[memegamerfun]

Yes

I should have known I’m not special enough to come up with anything unique

 

[Lostanddamned]

Spoiler: ???

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I am dalli_x and you are too. He's all of us. Together.

 

[hakuna-matata]

I think Bella has a Crypto Mining Farm in her locked room.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I am dalli_x and you are too. He's all of us. Together.

love you, but not enough for this...

 

[Ilhares]

what if any......

What indeed? It's important to quote anybody you might actually be replying to, so that it makes some sense.

I do think Jill will become more proactive. I think she's the type that's very guarded, but once in love, she'll be open to a lot more.

I find it challenging to believe, after she spent so many episodes being a naive moron. Goblins have limited intelligence and should never be used as a player race.

I am dalli_x and you are too. He's all of us. Together.

I don't know where you're from, pal, but on this side of the line? We ain't dalli_x.

 

[Lostanddamned]

love you, but not enough for this...

I know you love me for Magnar, which is enough for me.

I don't know where you're from, pal, but on this side of the line? We ain't dalli_x.

Dalli is in our hearts. You just have to believe in him.

He that believeth and has found Dalli shall be given the holy MEGA link.

 

[DarkKiller]

I think Bella has a Crypto Mining Farm in her locked room.

Between that and murder I'd choose murder any day of the week, she better be a psychotic killer

 

[LizaS]

Can't we just stop and be mesmerized about how beautiful Princess Sage is?
Talk trash about DnG all you want, I'm just happy to see this princess.
DnG could also be a foreshadowing. As spoken here before, when you save Sage and leave everyone else behind, you get killed by Quinn.

Not enough Sage stans in this thread btw, or are they just not vocal?

 

[OFT]

I'm currently tracking development for BaDIK, Pale Carnations, City of Broken Dreamers, Leap of Faith, and The Unbroken (I'm following Where the Heart Is, too, but they don't give render counts very often).

Unfortunately, it's impossible to make a proper comparison because, as OFT implied, there are no clear rules for what constitutes an 'animation.' A 1 second looping blowjob counts the same as a 4 second sweeping panorama of a city or a 9 second clip of a girl inserting a butt plug. That's especially important since DPC seems to be adding lots of small animations these days, which may pad his numbers unfairly. Drifty reports animation progress for Leap of Faith as "frames of animation," which would be a lot more robust, but no one else does that and trying to reverse engineer a frame count is more work than I've been willing to do. Even the static render count is a bit dodgy since Pale Carnations uses Honey Select for its character models.

Still, if we want a *VERY* rough comparison, we can give it a try. I think the best option is to take the total static and animation counts for the most recently released update, then normalize that data per development day. It's a very blunt instrument, but it's the easiest way to keep the data in the same ballpark and has the added advantage that other games could be incorporated relatively easily. So here goes:

Spoiler: Highly Unequal Render Rate Comparison of Selected Games

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Take that for what it's worth.

First off, great comparison, although being the number cruncher you are, I can't believe you didn't back-calculate the number of Leap of Faith animations based on previous average animation length and estimated frame rate.

Tell him, Lost:

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

Second, my question was actually about the number of scenes. As I mentioned, I've seen a lot of comparisons regarding the number of animations and renders and the amount of gameplay time between BaDIK and other games. What I haven't seen is a comparison of the number of scenes.

On a similar note to what you said about there being no clear rules for what constitutes an "animation" (even though you mistakenly attributed it to me), it can also be said about what constitutes a "scene." I suppose it would help to define "scene" before I ask such a question.

If I were so bold as to set some basic ground rules, I would say a move from one distinct location to another is the primary definition of a scene change as it applies to AVNs, just as it does to film. For the purpose of this question, I'll mostly disregard (with certain exceptions) other types of film scene changes, such as during a group scene when some characters leave and others stay and a different dialogue begins, or when the focus changes from one group to another within the same location.

With this in mind, I'll give a rough total number of scenes in BaDIK Episode 8 with which to compare to other games. Remember, I'm mainly (but not solely) going by a change in location. Moving from one room to an adjacent room counts as a change in location.


Episode 8 Scenes by Category in no particular order:

Spoiler: Bella (9)

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Spoiler: Quinn (2)

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Spoiler: Jade (2)

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Spoiler: Diary (6)

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Spoiler: Dorm Party (tricky, but I'll just count the majors: 5)

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Spoiler: Pink Rose (6)

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Spoiler: Sage (6)

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Spoiler: Gym (6)

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Spoiler: HOTs (5)

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Spoiler: DIKs (10)

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Spoiler: Jill (9)

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Spoiler: Classes (10)

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Spoiler: MC's Room (5)

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Spoiler: Waterpark (4)

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Spoiler: Miscellaneous (3)

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Spoiler: Intro (2)

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Spoiler: Ending (Not counting all the different cuts during narration: 3)

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Total: 93 (I was way off, too, Pasha)


I'm sure you've either spotted some scenes that you don't think are actual "scenes," or you think some were unjustifiably overlooked. Yes, I know I left out things such as phone conversations during free roams, the beach ball mini-game, and the MC trying to figure out how to use DPC's Official BaDIK Mod for future episodes....uhhh....I mean that black box on his desk. (A fella can dream, right?)

No matter how you want to tweak the list, I think the point is made that there is a crazy amount of individual scenes built into a single episode.

NOW, can anyone tell me how the number of scenes in Episode 8 compares to the number of scenes in an update of any other comparable games/AVNs?

 

[notakernelguy]

killed by Quinn

More like get killed by Quinn's restaurant. This shit is still hanging there like a Checkhov's gun
Sage's gonna think you betrayed her and went around her back if you used it

 

[JETracktor]

you get killed by Quinn.

You mean get Sopranoed by Quinn?

Spoiler

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[PashafromRussia]

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Can't we just stop and be mesmerized about how beautiful Princess Sage is?
Talk trash about DnG all you want, I'm just happy to see this princess.
DnG could also be a foreshadowing. As spoken here before, when you save Sage and leave everyone else behind, you get killed by Quinn.

Not enough Sage stans in this thread btw, or are they just not vocal?

It's funny that there is a solo ending with Bella and a solo ending with Sage, but there are no solo endings with Jill, Maya and Josie.

 

[Darkwen]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Josy had had sex with a man before.

But.

DPC again leaves many gaps on this topic. The first thing I have to mention is what Maya told the MC in EP3. She is no longer a virgin, has dated men, but has never had sex with a man. Yet she is no longer a virgin. Could this also apply to Josy?

Let's take a look at Josy. So we know that the characters in BaDIK do not have sex until they are 18. In the flashback of Josy and Maya from EP4, they both have sex with each other for the first time, ergo they are 18 years old. This all happened during high school vacation, so it should also be clear that they are both older than the MC since his birthday was after he was in school. So they are all currently 19 years old. Back to the topic. Josy and Maya had their first sex in the first half of the year, which means Josy was already about 5-6 months 18 years old. Also, we learned after the fact that she had friends where she was, but there was no mention of whether there was a boyfriend.

Considering that Maya and Josy were living near B&R at the time, as we learn from Maya in EP1, stepbrother Tommy was not far away, and we all know that Tommy would not react well to Josy's boyfriend. The DIKs at least agreed that they would rather not tell Tommy that Josy spent the night at the MC. So Tommy may have been acting as a cockblocker, which can also be seen as a reason for Josy's hatred of Tommy. After all, Derek tells the MC in EP3 that he will not be a cockblocker.

Looking at the sex scenes now, I notice that Josy is good at taking the MC's cock while she fucks him. But what I've noticed is that she's definitely sexually inexperienced when it comes to blowjobs, titty fucking, and ass fucking, and she's insecure when it comes to having an orgasm in front of the MC. This is unusual.

- In EP2, Josy asks the MC if he enjoyed the blowjob. The MC's answer was clear.
- Also, we learn through Josy's thoughts that she hasn't had human contact in a long time. Probably, she was faithful to Maya from the first sex to the sex with the MC.
- So during sex in EP5, Josy knew the MC liked the blowjob and is sure of it.
- But we also learn that she has never done a titty job and an ass job and this is new to her. But she takes the MC's cock all the way in.
- During lesbian sex in EP6, we learn that Maya has used Mr. Dildy very rarely, but Josy implies that she has experience with dildos because she tells Maya that frequent use doesn't make her insensitive.
- But now comes the part where Josy offers Maya to be there when she has sex with the MC for the first time, and Maya thinks it's pretty wild. Josy says it's no more unusual than anything else they're currently doing, at least not for Josy herself. I'm confused by this.

Did Josy have sex before she got together with Maya, but then she should have had more practical experience, but mostly only has theoretical knowledge.

In EP2 Derek tells the MC the following. "I knew a girl who said "everything’s a dildo if you push hard enough"." Derek has known Josy for a long time, and Maya can't even get along with Mr. Didly. So that might explain why Josy can take the MC's cock all the way.

In EP5 Hangout, we learn more about Josy, so Arieth wanted to teach her everything. And she did. At the MC's birthday party, we learn that John, Elena and Arieth had a threesome. At the end of EP6, at the HOT initiation party, Josy greets Elena and I find this scene odd because none of the other girls make eye contact in the following 2 screenshots.

Spoiler: Screenshots

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Now comes my guess as to why Josy said it's not unusual for her to be there when others are having sex. Josy probably asked Elena or Arieth for help because Josy and Maya's list included having sex as a threesome. John, Elena, and Arieth showed it to Josy. That's why Josy and Elena look at each other like that in the screenshots, because they have a little secret that maybe the MC, but certainly not Tommy should and must know.

And the thing is this. Josy may have never fucked a man before the MC. If that's not the case, I don't care either.

I think Josy has been with a guy before MC but it didn't go well because as we can see from sweet Josy's first two scenes her fear of coming to fast and how she feels about her body. My guess is it was her first boyfriend or maybe at a high school party. Which every of the two could even be both it really mess Josy up when it comes to sex. Now there is a very real chance that she is faking and everything she knows about sex comes from porn. MC may or may not be Josy's first guy but he is the first she is falling in love with.