VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

Kellermann · Jul 22, 2022

RonWeasleyJr said:
The path ends with MC on an actual date with Envy, and introducing himself to Nicole's son.

MC is getting nothing in the bedroom whenever that rugrat is home, so hopefully she keeps him away at boarding school.

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RonWeasleyJr said:
Alright, so a serious post from me for once:

What is the consensus on how the "other girls" path will end? Will there be different endings for that one path, based on flags you trigger with Quinn, Envy, Lily, Riona, Heather, Camilla, etc?

I mean, I'm not expecting deep, highly involved paths with each woman on the level of the main girls, but there could be shallow "maybe ever after" endings for the Other Girls path, depending on which flags you trigger:

1) The path ends with MC on an actual date with Envy, and introducing himself to Nicole's son.

2) A flash forward to a year or two in the future. MC is walking across campus with Lily, who is wearing scrubs and talking about how one of her nursing school teachers is a regular at the Pink Rose. The two make plans to "roll" with each other and attend the latest HOT party together.

3) A flash forward to MC working as Jade's TA. Jade admonishes MC for forgetting to clean the chalkboard and drags him into the back room for "discipline."

4) After making MC her "plus three," MC seduces Heather away from Tommy and the game ends with the two happy together in a relationship with strong dom/sub overtones.

5) At the end of the game, Quinn complains that Camilla has been declining any other clients except for MC. Realizing that Cami likes her, MC asks her on an actual date and she happily agrees.

6) MC helps Riona see her worth as a person, helping her break free of Quinn's toxic influence. The final scene shows MC and Riona dating and enjoying a very healthy sex life, with MC making Riona cum on a regular basis.

7) The game ends with MC waiting to pick up Quinn from court ordered rehab. Quinn emerges from the half-way house in "normal" clothes and with her hair grown out. She's a fragile, emotional wreck, and MC assures Quinn that he'll be there for her every day.

And, of course, there's also the possiblity for some dark endings:

1) Quinn/Lily/Envy drag MC more and more into the world of drugs and drug dealing. The game ends with MC either on the run from the law, or dead from an overdose, or murdered by Quinn's enemies.

2) Stephen Burke blackmails MC and Jade into doing nothing while he corrupts the other girls. The game ends with MC standing outside Maya's dorm room, powerless to do anything while he hears Maya's mewls of pain as Burke fucks her for a scholarship.

3) Quinn and Lily corrupt Josy and get her to join the Pink Rose, completely splitting Josy and Maya up.

But it may be true that we don't get that much with the Other girls beyond a slideshow epilogue briefly telling us what the cast did after university. And as is shown below by OFT, DPC very well may keep things less than ideal or at least ambiguous with the girls. Honestly, I don't want DPC to tell me exactly what happens with the rest of MC's life (assuming he doesn't meet an untimely demise in the final episode). I want to be able to come up with that scenario on my own.

OFT said:
Founded on absolutely nothing but my notoriously unreliable gut instinct, I've been thinking Jill's jealousy points might be a mechanism DPC uses to break up her relationship with the MC regardless of your choices.

I'm typically an optimistic kind of guy, but the MC's whole opening monologue at the beginning of the game has left me with an unshakeable feeling that there could be no truly happy ending with anyone. Now I'm not saying the denouement will be anywhere close to as tragic as AL, because I don't believe that. What I'm saying is there's a chance it won't necessarily be this happy:

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This story will span the length of a single Fall Semester, with certainly a "flash-way-the-fuck-forward" epilogue. There is no way it's extending into the Spring without enormous fluidity-destroying, sensory-jarring time skips. If you're watching the final season of Better Call Saul, then you know what I'm talking about.

Therefore, if DPC intends to send the MC down the "We gave it a shot but it didn't work out" road resulting from a LI calling it quits, he needs to start planting those seeds now or very soon. Many possibilities exist for a LI to break it off, and some already have been laid (pun absolutely intended). I'm listing only a few select examples:

Sage:

The MC knew about the restaurant and said nothing.

Jade throws the MC under the bus, even if (or especially if?) you rejected her.

Bella:

James returns and they reconcile.

Let's face it: It was never going to work in the first place. But maybe it was more than a fling, something less than love, none of it regrettable.

Josy & Maya:

It will never be a fully-functioning throuple, or whatever you want to call it, and the girls go off to be with each other.

One tries to make it work with the MC, but they're too guilt-ridden when the MC rejects the other.

Those are easy to deduce. With Jill, I don't see anything so far that would make her doubt their relationship once the MC commits. So, in walks the Jealousy Point. One exit strategy could be that no matter what we do, Jill will accumulate enough of these points based on other influences that she reaches a tipping point.

Of course, that could be me talking out of my ass, but you're the one that said to pretend being Dalli for a little while.

Was marriage an ending in AL?

Hell, I don't even remember much of AL's third act. All I recall is maybe a boring talk next to a tree or something stupid like that? I was so bored with the story after the midway point that by conclusion, I was just hammering the spacebar and couldn't be arsed to give a damn. Played it once and never again. Couldn't have deleted that dung pile fast enough.

In BaDIK, you're probably right though. I'm not so sure extensive after action reports on the happy lives of MC and his girl(s) are a sure thing. DPC just doesn't seem like a happily ever after kind of dev.
I always figured M&J would go get married likely without MC,
Sage quickly moves on with her life after she gruaduates B&R and marries the first douchebag who asks her out at her new job,
Bella is in Arkham Asylum and most certainly doesn't end up with MC.
Perhaps naively I did assume there would at least be MC/Jill ending regardless of any bumps in the road or jealousy.

And so if most of the main girls are a failure then little hope remains for the side girls.

sorry Riona

P.S.
I'd very much like to see spring break B&R, but I understand the time skip required for that is asking a lot.

Room639 · Jul 22, 2022

People gave me shit for being critical prior to the Episode 8 release (comparing DIK to Game of Thrones - hopefully the Interlude isn't too similar to seasons 7 & 8), but the lengthy release times are beginning to be too much. We're looking at over a year between the release of episode 8 and episode 9. I won't tell people how to spend their money, but I find it impossible to justify spending $30 a month ($360/year!) on a game that releases one episode a year. Even at the $10 level, you should be able to expect two releases a year at a minimum.

This game is really good, but it's not sustainable at its current level. DPC it treating it as if he's a fucking genius working on a classical masterpiece, but even his biggest fans have to admit that he's beginning to milk it for the money (even if its just a bit). He spent 3-4 months on releasing it on another service (more revenue - as if you couldn't find a way to purchase the game?) and a bullshit interlude so he could test a new saving system. There are strong hints at 8 more episodes, which seems unneccessary - do we really need 8 episodes after making "The Big Choice" in Episode 8? Get over your bullshit ego, hire some people to help with the coding/technical stuff, and write a good story and include some nice graphics/animations. Nobody is going to put this thing in the Louvre when it's done.

Honestly, we're looking at another 4-5 years MINIMUM before this thing is completed. It's asking too much of your audience - especially now that there are more high quality games being released regularly.

RonWeasleyJr · Jul 22, 2022

Whenever we do get to the sex scene with Heather, I just hope like it's the first Jade sex scene where, after building up to it for multiple episodes, it is an epic sex scene that blows away everything that came before it.

After three episodes of teasing, when MC finally nailed Jade we got everything: car sex, mommy play, BDSM with handcuffs, drug use (the liquid that Jade pours in MC's cock), hate sex, choking, unintentional voyeurism (the couple across the street), intentional voyeurism (Jade filming herself with MC's camera), post-coital cuddling in a bathtub.

It was everything we all hoped for.

And then came Bella's sex scene at the end of episode 8. It was another epic, multi-orgasm affair, albeit one where Bella teased MC multiple times.

I hope we get the same thing with Heather. We didn't start building towards Heather as a possible sex partner until episode 4, and episode 9 will mark the sixth episode (excluding the Interlude) where he haven't tapped that ass yet. Whenever Heather finally submits to MC (because she's shown a strong submissive streak) the sex with her had better be a marathon encounter where Heather works out all her frustrations she has with Tommy, while MC learns to embrace the dominant side he first showed when sexting with Cathy.

My biggest fear is that this will turn out to be like Jess and Silver in T4bbo's "Babysitter." T4bbo spent two years building up to a blackmail/NTR scene between the two, but by the time we finally got to it, T4bbo had had a falling out with his writer and had to rely on someone who wrote horrible dialogue with bad grammar, and T4bbo had also lost focus and was working on the quasi-sequel "Babysitters," so the actual sex scene between Silver and Jess left a lot to be desired.

I know DPC won't read this, but all of us on TeamHeather have faith in you, DPC!!!

ChipLecsap · Jul 23, 2022

Room639 said:

, Okay,

qwerty9191 · Jul 23, 2022

i didnt see any start button

Pennel · Jul 23, 2022

qwerty9191 said:
i didnt see any start button

In the Interlude? You need to import a save from the end of season 2.

qwerty9191 · Jul 23, 2022

Pennel said:
In the Interlude? You need to import a save from the end of season 2.

problem is i didnt play season 1 or 2. how can i download this games?

ename144 · Jul 23, 2022

felicemastronzo said:
You extol Maya and Josy's threesome at the water park and call Sage and Quinn's the worst of all ?

It was nice to meet you, but you deserve two interludes per chapter

You have a low bar if you consider my faint praise to be extoling the Episode 8 M/J threesome, but it's absolutely better than the Sage/Quinn scene. That one makes a complete hash of Sage's path and worse, the sex wasn't even all that good. The scene is padding, a flashy non-sequitur intended to distract us from fact DPC had run out of development for Sage leading up the crossroads. I expect better from BaDIK.

I'm not a Quinn fan but my computer models suggest the scene works better from the Quinn side of things. So perhaps I'm not giving it enough credit in that sense. Even so, I think as a Quinn scene it suffers from the way the requirements hinge on Sage rather than Quinn. The coda at the end when Quinn asks how long the MC has been banging Sage is the only memorable part. Well, that and Sage wearing cat ears for no adequately explained reason.

The scene was trying to do to much too quickly and as a the result was a flop - at least in my less humble than usual opinion.

Shokwawe · Jul 23, 2022

w8 we have sex with Jilll in season 2?I just skipped last update of 8.x shiiiiii like i was w8ting season 3....

Skeltom · Jul 23, 2022

OFT said:
Founded on absolutely nothing but my notoriously unreliable gut instinct, I've been thinking Jill's jealousy points might be a mechanism DPC uses to break up her relationship with the MC regardless of your choices.

Right now the the jealous score isn't used for anything. It doesn't effect her diching the MC in episode eight at all if that's what you meant. Whether or not that changes in the latter episodes is still up in the air. My guess is she'll probably start having thoughts about whether or not her and the MC are really right for each other since he wasn't seeing only her.

shazba · Jul 23, 2022

ename144 said:
You have a low bar if you consider my faint praise to be extoling the Episode 8 M/J threesome, but it's absolutely better than the Sage/Quinn scene. That one makes a complete hash of Sage's path and worse, the sex wasn't even all that good. The scene is padding, a flashy non-sequitur intended to distract us from fact DPC had run out of development for Sage leading up the crossroads. I expect better from BaDIK.

I'm not a Quinn fan but my computer models suggest the scene works better from the Quinn side of things. So perhaps I'm not giving it enough credit in that sense. Even so, I think as a Quinn scene it suffers from the way the requirements hinge on Sage rather than Quinn. The coda at the end when Quinn asks how long the MC has been banging Sage is the only memorable part. Well, that and Sage wearing cat ears for no adequately explained reason.

The scene was trying to do to much too quickly and as a the result was a flop - at least in my less humble than usual opinion.

Threesomes in order of best to ~~worst~~ least best, there is no "worst" threesome, all are welcome

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If I've missed a significant threesome, by all means, insult me to my face, it would be an inexcusable ommission!

ename144 · Jul 23, 2022

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If I've missed a significant threesome, by all means, insult me to my face, it would be an inexcusable ommission!

I'd bump up the Mona & Cammy threesome to #3 (it was short but hot) and drop both of Quinn's (I didn't like the way her first threesome treated Riona and I've already discussed my displeasure with the second), but otherwise I'd say that's a solid ranking.

AchedCroissant · Jul 23, 2022

shazba said:
Spoiler: Nicole & Sandy

#1

ChipLecsap · Jul 23, 2022

ename144 said:
You have a low bar if you consider my faint praise to be extoling the Episode 8 M/J threesome, but it's absolutely better than the Sage/Quinn scene. That one makes a complete hash of Sage's path and worse, the sex wasn't even all that good. The scene is padding, a flashy non-sequitur intended to distract us from fact DPC had run out of development for Sage leading up the crossroads. I expect better from BaDIK.

I'm not a Quinn fan but my computer models suggest the scene works better from the Quinn side of things. So perhaps I'm not giving it enough credit in that sense. Even so, I think as a Quinn scene it suffers from the way the requirements hinge on Sage rather than Quinn. The coda at the end when Quinn asks how long the MC has been banging Sage is the only memorable part. Well, that and Sage wearing cat ears for no adequately explained reason.

The scene was trying to do to much too quickly and as a the result was a flop - at least in my less humble than usual opinion.

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If I've missed a significant threesome, by all means, insult me to my face, it would be an inexcusable ommission!

rem3403 · Jul 23, 2022

ename144 said:
I'd bump up the Mona & Cammy threesome to #3 (it was short but hot) and drop both of Quinn's (I didn't like the way her first threesome treated Riona and I've already discussed my displeasure with the second), but otherwise I'd say that's a solid ranking.

I'd drop Quinn to the bottom of the ocean because she is fugly

Lightaces · Jul 23, 2022

Darkin036 said:
Still no download link for season 1 and 2 for android guys ? its still down pls help

Unless things have changed, it is too big for Android.

felicemastronzo · Jul 23, 2022

ename144 said:
You have a low bar if you consider my faint praise to be extoling the Episode 8 M/J threesome, but it's absolutely better than the Sage/Quinn scene. That one makes a complete hash of Sage's path and worse, the sex wasn't even all that good. The scene is padding, a flashy non-sequitur intended to distract us from fact DPC had run out of development for Sage leading up the crossroads. I expect better from BaDIK.

I'm not a Quinn fan but my computer models suggest the scene works better from the Quinn side of things. So perhaps I'm not giving it enough credit in that sense. Even so, I think as a Quinn scene it suffers from the way the requirements hinge on Sage rather than Quinn. The coda at the end when Quinn asks how long the MC has been banging Sage is the only memorable part. Well, that and Sage wearing cat ears for no adequately explained reason.

The scene was trying to do to much too quickly and as a the result was a flop - at least in my less humble than usual opinion.

no, no, what creates a distortion in Sage's path is not the threesome, but the rebound guy from the chapter before (that one is shit in the middle of the living room).

for once Sage does something DIKish, it can't be that big a deal. the scene may create some guilt in us players, who know how Quinn is taking advantage of Sage's trust, but for Sage it's no backflip. Sage wants to have fun and as long as he doesn't see Quinn as a danger why should she care?

the best part of the threesome at the water park is unfortunately optional: Maya not knowing how the vagina works

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If I've missed a significant threesome, by all means, insult me to my face, it would be an inexcusable ommission!

first place: Camilla and Riona, it's exactly what a threesome should be, lots of fun, complicity between the girls, and after that you feel like the relationship with both girls has improved

second place: Sage & Quinn, a bomb, the only problems it has are "metacinematic" otherwise you might hope to have one per chapter

third place: Nichole & Sandy, the only problem is Sandy--in fact a stranger, very forced involvement. if it weren't for this aspect it would be a very good threesome too, very bold sexually

Gunizz · Jul 23, 2022

Room639 said:
[...]I won't tell people how to spend their money, but I find it impossible to justify spending $30 a month ($360/year!) on a game that releases one episode a year. Even at the $10 level, you should be able to expect two releases a year at a minimum.[...]

It seems absurd to me too, because professional software that people use for work does not cost that much and if firms made such prices the majority of customers would go away. But many people seem not very concerned with money when leisure or hobbies are involved. Photoshop monthly cost is much lower than BaD, for example.

Room639 said:
Get over your bullshit ego, hire some people to help with the coding/technical stuff, and write a good story and include some nice graphics/animations. Nobody is going to put this thing in the Louvre when it's done.

The coding is very difficult to outsource because it's very integrated with dialogues. He could hire someone for the animations, they take much time to pose and render. And DPC is objectively not so good with animations (just look at what some artists like Jackerman are able to achieve). But it won't happen with this game, he won't set up a team or share his BaD work, it's sure.

Room639 said:
Honestly, we're looking at another 4-5 years MINIMUM before this thing is completed. It's asking too much of your audience - especially now that there are more high quality games being released regularly.

That's not a problem for DPC because he earns a lot of money each month and his subscribers seem not to care about spending money and waiting so much. So he has got no incentive to shorten development times. It's really a lot of money each month and he has no assurance his next game will be a success like BaD. Now the competition is higher and larger compared with when he started BaD, and there are more skilled developers in coding, CGI and animations. So he could count only on his good writing skills, creativity and story planning (that's were he really shines) to cut his share of success. Would it be enough in the future? Probably in a few years there will be professional studios in adult VN or games, with skilled people dedicated on each aspect of a game. DPC works alone, would he be able to compete? Nobody knows and he's not stupid, he knows too.
He's probably making the right choice, "milking" a successful product until it lasts. Can we really blame him?

As for me, yes I would like to have more releases each year, but I am getting them for free at the moment. So in the end I'm fine with waiting, there is so much porn and VNs that I don't risk having nothing for wanking. The only ones that can put pressure on him are his paying supporters but it does not seem they are going to do it.

Darkdevil66 · Jul 23, 2022

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Hell no, all threesomes aren't welcome ! All right, I can deal with the fact that many snowflakes and chick players can't comprehend how perfect the Sage & Quinn threesome truly is and actually makes perfect sense with their characters, just like I said here :

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-interlude-season-3-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-7360447

Or like my Senpai ChipLecsap perfectly explained here :

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-interlude-season-3-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-8059960

I've tolerated the fact Kellermann has become a complete drama queen. That's fine, at least most patreons enjoyed the scene on the poll, and just like the fact many people has realized than Thor Love of Thunder is a complete piece of garbage ( Screw you Waititi ! ), it makes me think than there's still some hope for Mankind. I've even forgiven Felice for his heresy with the Goddess KRJ. But what the hell is that number 1 ????

On one side, you've got Nicole. One of the most perfect creatures of the game with a charming personality and a perfectly shaped and realistic body. No skin problem, no weird haircut, no goofy tattoos, no balloon boobs, no waist issue, no scary goblin smile or yellow teeth and then on the other side, you've got this disgracious cartoonish spider abomination. That thing standing next Nicole... the contrast makes it even worse.

WTF is that thing ? He whole body is disproportionate, her Lolo Ferrari's boobs probably destroyed her back, she has more flashy colors than fucking a wall tagging, her smile is hideous and the goddamn spider damn it :

You can't even enjoy a blowbjob without being scared that a fucking spider will jump on your dick :

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And please, let's not talk about the build up. There wasn't any build up, no alchemy, no passion. Nothing. That WAS SHITTY WRITING. Players have been waiting two fucking episodes to have a new scene with Nicole and suddenly Aragog came out from nowhere, like we were supposed to give a damn about her and forced her way through us. The whole exchange was basically :

MC : Hello random ~~Spider~~ Stripper.
Aragog : Hey lamb chops ! You and Nicole are a thing ?
Nicole : Yes, he's mature and it's his birthday !
Aragog : Great ! Let's have a threesome !
Nicole : Yeah totally ! Fuck the whole talk about serious relationship ! I want to share you right now !

It would have at least be 1000 times more enjoyable with a well established and attractive character like Lily but no DPC screwed Nicole's fans over. Just like he punished any completionist by creating multiple Madame scenes.

Reading Felice and Kellermann flirting is actually ten times hotter and sensual than the whole scene, and I'm not even into Yaoi. Hell, even RonweasleyJR NTR's fanfics are less repulsive.

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ChipLecsap · Jul 23, 2022

felicemastronzo said:
first place: Camilla and Riona, it's exactly what a threesome should be, lots of fun, complicity between the girls, and after that you feel like the relationship with both girls has improved

second place: Sage & Quinn, a bomb, the only problems it has are "metacinematic" otherwise you might hope to have one per chapter

third place: Nichole & Sandy, the only problem is Sandy--in fact a stranger, very forced involvement. if it weren't for this aspect it would be a very good threesome too, very bold sexually

Finally someone with proper Taste. You deserve a like. First of all you recognized that these 3 Threesomes are the only worthy of mention, and you were even right to put the Envy & Sandy at the 3rd place.

However, your taste need a bit more tuning, so to speak.

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The correct list.

1: Sage & Quinn
2: Rio & Camy - And not the Camy & Rio version, This is important, you start the Scene with Rio, and then turn it into the Threesome.
3: Envy & Sandy

But, you did great, Well done

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