VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

maybe this will be controversial to some: but if you erase the part of her identity where Jill is a virgin, or better yet have her dating history actually include Tybalt and the reality they she had slept with him at least once, she would instantly lose like 60% of her "fans".

People dont even like to believe/imagine that Bella ever had sex with her husband or that Sage had sex with Chad, so the Jill fans arent alone in that regard but i do think they are the most hypersensitive about it and the most "obsessed" for lack of a better word that she is "unspoiled" by other men

Yes, it is naive to believe that the girls in the game did not have sex except for the MC.
Josie has 100% experience with guys, she is not a virgin.
Maya only had experience with girls.
Bella has been married for a long time and it is absolutely naive to believe that she and her Husband did not have sex.
Sage has a good sexual experience, besides, she has a very high libido and I very much doubt that before the MC she did not cheat on Chad. Because he didn't satisfy her in bed.
Jill quite possibly had some "games" with Bella.
Riona, Camilla, Quinn, Sarah, Mel, Lily... no comments. Everything is clear here.

This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.

God, it's good that I have a normal, moderate views on life and do not start a drama because the girls had sex with someone before me. It's pretty hypocritical and ironic, don't you think? People of conservative views play a porn game, which is a sin of lust and depravity.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If DPC live with a trauma of losing money, imagine screwing a fandom that literally finances this game

He will not do anything with Jill

with Jill?!?!?

with every girl!!!

Zoey, the rebel because she has blue hair, goes out to conquer the west and meets two boys, one officially gay who is an inspiration for her to resume her studies, and one who has yet to come out to whom even her boobs in his face have no effect.

So much is the austerity of fantastic San Diego that the girl is seized with nostalgia for the only cock she can now remember (assuming it is not the only one)...

because let's be clear: that Zoey had had a boyfriend in San Diego is just a misunderstanding!!!!!

but it's the players who are naive. it's not like it's the story of the game that does everything it can to wallow them in this sense of security...

 

[anonnyscouse]

DPC is so scared to lose that crowd that we don't even see anyone else using the restaurant. We know Fuckface can't be the only customer but the closest we see to anyone else using it is the queue in the cafeteria and Rio and Quinn coming out of the dorm bathroom. For the restaurant to be worth it for the money it can't just be students using it.

The only sex without Fuckface that's even hinted at are Arieth (seen in dorms and with Dawe, pic with Jacob and Derek and hinted with everyone else), Heather (post sex in Tommy's room) and of course Carolyn (in the threesome).

 

[SomboSteel]

You mean Rusty, right? That would actually make sense, if she dated with him, and all, but ended up badly, and Jill now more cautious with her dating. Because of previous experiences. and Yet She can't help it, but to Fall for a "Bad Boy MC ".

May be she would not be the patreon virgins ultimate fantasy, But She would be Definitely a Better Character. for a Chick MC there would be still Bella and Maya who are make more sense on that path.
Jill is a missed opunitiy in so many way. and now we even have permanent affinity its not even have chance, to see Jill develop in to a Rich Qeen B, wiht a bad boy MC on her side.
even though that in the end she admitted She found it Funny, Tybalt humiliation.
But there are people who are still hopeful for a Josy, Maya solo route, So may be, Jill will regret, breaking up with MC. Still, it's hard to make a meaningful, second "first time " sex with her. Thats why she shoould nevere been a virgin in the first place.

no i did mean Tybalt. i think in another timeline DPC would have made this game where she had tried the dating scene multiple times already. she would have been with Tybalt just due to their proximity, her polite attitude, and his unrelenting thirst for her and she would have probably given in and gone out with him and either be pressured into sex with him (slowly but surely) or maybe even give him some pity sex and then dump him. she would have also had her time with Rusty and it would have also been another bad experience for her. and all this comes together with Jill deciding to just wait for Mr Right until the MC shows up.

but then you realize how she then is waaaaay too similar to Bella and her "saving herself" only for MC for convenient reasons even though she is in the prime of her life and should be living it to the fullest lol

but i do agree that in many ways Jill seems like wasted potential from a story growth perspective. im quite certain DPC added her last minute to appeal to a certain demographic that isnt shy about donations

 

[FappingWorldwide]

Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.

Yeah otherwise his words don’t really make sense, unless they were slightly “poorer” in his younger years i.e. his delusional comments about Bella’s neighborhood. Because Tybalt does look a fair bit like Jade imo, to the point that I can’t decide wether or not he’s actually her biological son or not.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think that pretty much true already. Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.
But while Sage grown to be a Decent Human, Tybalt ended up as an arrogant prick, who think he he rose by his own, and earned his entitlement. etc etc

his words are very generic

for Tybalt also Bella comes from nowhere, if Jade had been a single mother or otherwise of humble beginnings that spoiled Tybalt would remember his childhood as a nightmare

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

with Jill?!?!?

with every girl!!!

Zoey, the rebel because she has blue hair, goes out to conquer the west and meets two boys, one officially gay who is an inspiration for her to resume her studies, and one who has yet to come out to whom even her boobs in his face have no effect.

So much is the austerity of fantastic San Diego that the girl is seized with nostalgia for the only cock she can now remember (assuming it is not the only one)...

because let's be clear: that Zoey had had a boyfriend in San Diego is just a misunderstanding!!!!!

but it's the players who are naive. it's not like it's the story of the game that does everything it can to wallow them in this sense of security...

Yes, I know the psychological portrait of girls like Zoey in reality. In the real world, she would fuck at least five partners in a year in San Diego. But most likely ten. She is a rebel, she does not care about the moral principles of society, sex is just pleasure.

 

[FappingWorldwide]

The only sex without Fuckface that's even hinted at are Arieth (seen in dorms and with Dawe, pic with Jacob and Derek and hinted with everyone else), Heather (post sex in Tommy's room) and of course Carolyn (in the threesome).

Also Ashley, Wendy etc. with Derek. John Boy and Elaina, Jamie and Danielle. Tania with Tommy. Rusty and Tommy with Rio, Rusty with Ida (or whatever chewing gum chick is called). It’s left in the dark wether or not Tommy and Quinn fucked or not, but I sorta got the sense that they have at some point? You can also help Jacob hook up at one point.

Maya and Josy have also slept together before and after the MC.

But yeah Rio, Camilla have for sure been screwing around to the max.

 

[ffive]

but then you realize how she then is waaaaay too similar to Bella and her "saving herself" only for MC for convenient reasons even though she is in the prime of her life and should be living it to the fullest lol

To be fair, Jill isn't saving herself for the MC specifically, since she can reject him, too; much to chagrin of some people /s

 

[anonnyscouse]

Also Ashley, Wendy etc. with Derek. John Boy and Elaina, Jamie and Danielle. Tania with Tommy. Rusty and Tommy with Rio, Rusty with Ida (or whatever chewing gum chick is called). It’s left in the dark wether or not Tommy and Quinn fucked or not, but I sorta got the sense that they have at some point? You can also help Jacob hook up at one point.

Maya and Josy have also slept together before and after the MC.

But yeah Rio, Camilla have for sure been screwing around to the max.

I was referring to confirmed on screen I did forget Wendy and the Granny (we see pics for them). We also get verbal confirmation from Tommy confirming Tania so can include that. All your other examples have plausible deniability that means that the idiots who hate that sort of thing will just ignore it.

 

[SomboSteel]

To be fair, Jill isn't saving herself for the MC specifically, since she can reject him, too; much to chagrin of some people /s

id agree with that if she actually hooks up with somebody after she dumps MC. but guess what will never happen? lol

if Jill dumps MC, DPC will probably have her join a Convent

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yes, I know the psychological portrait of girls like Zoey in reality. In the real world, she would fuck at least five partners in a year in San Diego. But most likely ten. She is a rebel, she does not care about the moral principles of society, sex is just pleasure.

it's not so clear to me which girl Zoey is

seems to me to be a girl with major socialization problems, in high school she needs to find someone far worse off than she is in order not to spend her free time in complete solitude (both have virtually no other friends)

she is not a party girl (which doesn't exactly make her a HOTs)

even in San Diego Emma drags her, otherwise she would still be wearing the teetotaler bracelet in the hostel

the fact that she's a rebel (in what? aside from the hair I mean) doesn't make her compulsorily a man-eater, hard to get laid if you don't even talk to other people...

 

[ffive]

id agree with that if she actually hooks up with somebody after she dumps MC. but guess what will never happen? lol

NGL, i would love to see Jill hook up with someone else down the road in this scenario, if just for the fireworks it'd produce out of the game.

 

[ChipLecsap]

no i did mean Tybalt. i think in another timeline DPC would have made this game where she had tried the dating scene multiple times already. she would have been with Tybalt just due to their proximity, her polite attitude, and his unrelenting thirst for her and she would have probably given in and gone out with him and either be pressured into sex with him (slowly but surely) or maybe even give him some pity sex and then dump him. she would have also had her time with Rusty and it would have also been another bad experience for her. and all this comes together with Jill deciding to just wait for Mr Right until the MC shows up.

Tybalt should have been a total different character then.In his current state, no woman even want to go near him. So no, a storyline like that would not add anything to Jill.

I do think that the original idea was Jill had bad experience with dating, but then later DPC give a little Fanservice, by making her virgin.
It doesnt matter now.

 

[ffive]

it's not so clear to me which girl Zoey is

seems to me to be a girl with major socialization problems, in high school she needs to find someone far worse off than she is in order not to spend her free time in complete solitude (both have virtually no other friends)

Zoey strikes me as some sort of a cross between Maya and Josy, psychologically -- she's socially awkward and has hard time accepting her mother's new(?) marriage. She opens up with the MC but i'd agree she doesn't seem like someone who'd be going out and actively pursuing casual sex just for the heck of it.

 

[nyrek]

if Jill dumps MC, DPC will probably have her join a Convent

and the revenue stays stable!

dpc wouldn't decide it's ok to hurt his own business

 

[felicemastronzo]

Zoey strikes me as some sort of a cross between Maya and Josy, psychologically -- she's socially awkward and has hard time accepting her mother's new(?) marriage. She opens up with the MC but i'd agree she doesn't seem like someone who'd be going out and actively pursuing casual sex just for the heck of it.

the description of her, despite the interlude, remains the height of the generic

the family issue is also the height of the generic: she has a stepfather with whom she does not have a good relationship, and this is so taken for granted that there is not even a why, it is not even clear which of the two started the war (for Josy at least we know about a generic accusation of taking her father away, though she understands her father...okay)

Zoey could be an introvert like Maya, only unlike her she vents this limitation by pushing away those around her (MC, her mother, Emma...), wanting to be perceived as strong. Maya at least is more honest in this.

With Josy I see far fewer points of contact, at the cost of being wrong Zoey does not let herself be told what to do on almost any occasion, she has a fairly strong will

 

[AchedCroissant]

if Jill dumps MC, DPC will probably have her join a Convent

Or she goes on a trip you know how typical a horny young girl goes on a trip and spends months without fucking and not even with another woman

Oh yes it's Zoey

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair, Jill isn't saving herself for the MC specifically, since she can reject him, too; much to chagrin of some people /s

and the revenue stays stable!

dpc wouldn't decide it's ok to hurt his own business

we have yet to see James kiss Bella.... not even in the wedding photo...

you feel like thinking that DPC only considers Jill's fans "weak".... but if it makes you feel better

 

[Deleted member 4541730]

but i do agree that in many ways Jill seems like wasted potential from a story growth perspective. im quite certain DPC added her last minute to appeal to a certain demographic that isnt shy about donations

No no no it's an artistic masterpiece, not a sex game where girls exist to fulfill fetishes and the story is written to facilitate increasingly outrageous sexual encounters.