VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Blue Milk]

It's hard, but I love it when AVNs do this, throwing the player out of the safe space and forcing him to experience difficult emotions. Here is dear player, look what your actions led to, if you had acted smarter, everything could have been different.

Thing is, when you think about it, your actions in AL didn't lead to that bad thing happening, it happened regardless. So when people say how our actions as the player could lead to or cause bad endings and they reference AL in that, it's not entirely accurate considering it wasn't the player that did it then either.

This is why I think that, even with things that look like they could be bad, they ultimately won't be in the end and that there will always be a decent outcome even in the event of something bad happening. AL, again, did this because even though one of the friends burned to a crisp, Megan or Melissa come out alright in the end and go on to live a decent life with or without him.

I guess it will all depend on whether DPC remains the same kind of storyteller in this way, that even in the darkest of event outcomes there will still be a good future, or if he changes it up and makes our choices actually contribute to really dark outcomes.

Which bringing us back to the original point at hand It's by far no means to early to be introducing characters now, it's time for the outcomes of all those set ups in earlier chapters to start coming to fruition

Which is why I think James has to come back now. Bella's path needs some more drama and stakes to it and James is the biggest things that can do that, and better he come back now than in S4 when we're even closer to the endgame and even less time is given to this plot thread.

Also, I imagine there's got to be some impact even when not on Bella's path too because there is kind of this theme of the MC getting involved in drama even when not involved with MGs.

 

[Lagunavii]

Which is why I think James has to come back now. Bella's path needs some more drama and stakes to it and James is the biggest things that can do that, and better he come back now than in S4 when we're even closer to the endgame and even less time is given to this plot thread.

Also, I imagine there's got to be some impact even when not on Bella's path too because there is kind of this theme of the MC getting involved in drama even when not involved with MGs.

Absolutely 100% in agreement with you, he either needs to come back or we need to find out why he left or ultimately find out if he's buried under the patio.

Now the fact that we actually got a flashback/chapter begin dedicated to the James and Bella tells me we will get impact even off her path (otherwise why put it in) as to it being the fallout from the Christmas preview and the MC will be involved, I dont know. I'm currently drawing a blank at why MC would be there at Xmas while not on her path. (not to say there isn't a reason)

 

[Blue Milk]

Absolutely 100% in agreement with you, he either needs to come back or we need to find out why he left or ultimately find out if he's buried under the patio.

Now the fact that we actually got a flashback/chapter begin dedicated to the James and Bella tells me we will get impact even off her path (otherwise why put it in) as to it being the fallout from the Christmas preview and the MC will be involved, I dont know. I'm currently drawing a blank at why MC would be there at Xmas while not on her path. (not to say there isn't a reason)

If that's a flashforward, then judging from the number of seats it looks like it could be Bella, MC, Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill, and 2 others, possibly Derek and James or maybe even Derek and Neil with James showing up during the dinner and creating drama.

Simplest explanation for me if that's the case with the dinner guests is they that don't really have anywhere else to go. Bella has no family, Maya and Derek still not on good terms with Patrick, Josy again doesn't want to spend a holiday with Monica, Sage not having or wanting to spend time with her adoptive family, Jill probably has issues with her family by that point too, and MC and Neil get invited because the MC is part of the friend group and it wouldn't be right to leave Neil alone.

 

[Darkwen the Josy lover]

Yeah, everything is just perfect. Except those two weird things on her head...
It's like she's decorated her hair with dead animal tails. Beavers, maybe coyotes. Or even a small doggo. Who in their right mind would skin a poor doggo and decorate her hair with its tail? Damn, all I can think about now when I look at this is dead animals. I used to do that in school when I'd get a sudden boner and the teacher would call me to the blackboard. Dead animals would help the boner go away.
Hmm... Yeah, it's perfect, thank you Josy!

I love Josy's pig tails they so fucking cute total Alady move by the Queen
Alady Alady Alady

 

[Ottoeight]

obviously all of us here enjoy the game and want it to last as long as possible,

Not in the least. I don't want to die before the Author completes the game.

but I think I speak for the majority when I say that the total number of chapters doesn't matter.

No, you don't. You speak for yourself. Like everybody else does (me as well).

The most important thing is that it has a well-done and appropriate ending for a great game like this.

Well-done and appropriate ending = no more pointless 60fps animations and annoying minigames in the latest chapters.

I have never been a big fan of university type games,

You can tell that this is the AVN that started the genre.

Let's hope we don't have to wait too long to enjoy the end of the game and dream of DPC starting another project as big as this one.

Aren't you a naive fellow, bro. You won't see episode 12 before the end of 2026. End of Season 4? if it's 4 episodes... well, is 2030-32 a long wait in your opinion?

No I don't disagree with you at all. A 2 episode season that is effectively just epilogues is ludicrous (but let's be honest not beyond DPC esp as you're right he did say season 4 would not be typical)

But let's look at is from both sides, he was originally counting the epilogues in his count, in which case we have even less time than we first thought, in which case it's "ending" at 12, we are definitely in the endgame.

Or, it "ends" at 14 more likely as this gives us 4 more chapters 11 Christmas, 12 valentines, 13 spring break 14 college year ends. Before our episode 15 and 16 epilogue (more likely this one) currently approaching chapter 11 of 14... Well into the last half of the story, a bit into the last third of the story and just entering the last quarter of the story. Again we are sorta in the endgame now.

Which bringing us back to the original point at hand It's by far no means to early to be introducing characters now, it's time for the outcomes of all those set ups in earlier chapters to start coming to fruition

Why are you arguing over something that's going to happen in 5-7 years?

Thing is, when you think about it, your actions in AL didn't lead to that bad thing happening, it happened regardless. So when people say how our actions as the player could lead to or cause bad endings and they reference AL in that, it's not entirely accurate considering it wasn't the player that did it then either.

This is why I think that, even with things that look like they could be bad, they ultimately won't be in the end and that there will always be a decent outcome even in the event of something bad happening. AL, again, did this because even though one of the friends burned to a crisp, Megan or Melissa come out alright in the end and go on to live a decent life with or without him.

I guess it will all depend on whether DPC remains the same kind of storyteller in this way, that even in the darkest of event outcomes there will still be a good future, or if he changes it up and makes our choices actually contribute to really dark outcomes.



Which is why I think James has to come back now. Bella's path needs some more drama and stakes to it and James is the biggest things that can do that, and better he come back now than in S4 when we're even closer to the endgame and even less time is given to this plot thread.

Also, I imagine there's got to be some impact even when not on Bella's path too because there is kind of this theme of the MC getting involved in drama even when not involved with MGs.

You nailed the point: the main storyline is the main storyline and our choices won't change it.

Drama in Bella's path? how about a pregnancy?

 

[godkingxerxes]

Only if you're Josy fan.

Or just a fan of anyone else.

Maya is just too much of a focal point to be interesting anymore, he should have worked on ending the boring loan plot earlier.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Which is why I think James has to come back now. Bella's path needs some more drama and stakes to it and James is the biggest things that can do that, and better he come back now than in S4 when we're even closer to the endgame and even less time is given to this plot thread.

James has to come back and he will

 

[Riggnarock]

If the contract is indeed important and the documents are in fact needed. For Derek to come along and just be a superhero would be a massive letdown for me. I mean why couldn't Derek just have done that in the first place anyway?

I don't think the documents are going to be that important and it was just a convenient plot device to get us in the twins house to
a. see Patrick's abuse
b. see the mother's illness

the options going forward are

the documents are rubbish and are not needed so we need to find another way to help Maya, which we would need to do if we didn't get the documents anyway. so the paths become aligned.

or

The documents are important, someone else gets them and the paths remain aligned anyway.

See I agree I don't really think there's going to be a "fail state branch" here, the plot has to go on, with or without them.
However, back to my original point, which was responding to the
"Patrick causes the destruction trying to get them back" Which makes no sense, because, you might not have got them, why would they be at Bellas if you did, how does Patrick know they are at Bellas if they did go there and so on and so on. Its just a silly out there thought.

Derek and I Share tasks as Maggot Brothers since the beginning. When i wont pay a nerd then Derek gladly steps in to get his arse kicked!!

wich in hindsight means that if we dont get the documents right now, that Derek swoops in and gets his arse kicked by his dad

 

[Vixen ♀]

I'm beginning to start like her by the day

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The thing is it's many AVNs choose to ignore the actions have consequences route and prefer to apply the suspend your disbelief porn logic. And while yes you still get your ending and it's somewhat satisfying. The "you caused this with your decisions" either good or bad will ALWAYS trump them.

Now we got that warning at the start so we know it's got the potential to be dark. I've seen people throw out quotes and the likes stating DPC has said it won't go the same route as AL. (I can never really find a direct DPC source, so don't know exactly what was said) now we all know AL was pretty dark, but just because he's said it won't go that route doesn't mean this is going to be all sunshine and rainbows

So it turns out that many AVNs are just boring and uninteresting because there is no challenge and serious consequences. This is how it works for me and I just quit them. These games were considered as just a replacement for porn, but projects like DIK, AL, some others - made them more than just "i want to wank on 3D fuckfest"

Thing is, when you think about it, your actions in AL didn't lead to that bad thing happening, it happened regardless. So when people say how our actions as the player could lead to or cause bad endings and they reference AL in that, it's not entirely accurate considering it wasn't the player that did it then either.

This is why I think that, even with things that look like they could be bad, they ultimately won't be in the end and that there will always be a decent outcome even in the event of something bad happening. AL, again, did this because even though one of the friends burned to a crisp, Megan or Melissa come out alright in the end and go on to live a decent life with or without him.

I guess it will all depend on whether DPC remains the same kind of storyteller in this way, that even in the darkest of event outcomes there will still be a good future, or if he changes it up and makes our choices actually contribute to really dark outcomes.

That's right, the worst moments in AL were kinetic, endings that only varied depending on who you chose and how you behaved during the run, whether you stuck your dick in the cookie jar when you shouldn't have. Despite the game being a masterpiece, a significant part of the world lived without player decisions, just like in BaDIK. As for BaDIK Endgame...we will see.

Or just a fan of anyone else.

Maya is just too much of a focal point to be interesting anymore, he should have worked on ending the boring loan plot earlier.

Maya is decent despite the boring debt story. Episode 10 revealed her as a person much more than all the previous ones combined. So she takes her place among the other LIs and I can no longer call her uninteresting and boring. It's funny how Ep.10 flipped Maya and Josy completely for me.

 

[Lagunavii]

Why are you arguing over something that's going to happen in 5-7 years?

Wasnt arguing at all. Blue Milk made a point that it's now getting to a point where it's not early to begin resolutions and is perhaps getting a little late. I agreed with him and gave the reasons I did.

 

[Little Penguin]

Not in the least. I don't want to die before the Author completes the game.





No, you don't. You speak for yourself. Like everybody else does (me as well).




Well-done and appropriate ending = no more pointless 60fps animations and annoying minigames in the latest chapters.





You can tell that this is the AVN that started the genre.





Aren't you a naive fellow, bro. You won't see episode 12 before the end of 2026. End of Season 4? if it's 4 episodes... well, is 2030-32 a long wait in your opinion?





Why are you arguing over something that's going to happen in 5-7 years?




You nailed the point: the main storyline is the main storyline and our choices won't change it.

Drama in Bella's path? how about a pregnancy?

Not in the least. I don't want to die before the Author completes the game.

Well, contact him and offer your help to finish sooner, some of you think that DPC has the budget and the people from electronic arts or something, everything good takes time and for me this game is worth the wait.


No, you don't. You speak for yourself. Like everybody else does (me as well).

Do you understand the difference between saying: I think I speak for the majority and I speak for the majority of people? It's an assumption based on the comments I read about the game. Nothing more and nothing less.


Well-done and appropriate ending = no more pointless 60fps animations and annoying minigames in the latest chapters.


Just because you don't like mini games doesn't mean it's a bad thing, you contradict your previous point.
"You speak for yourself"

Aren't you a naive fellow, bro. You won't see episode 12 before the end of 2026. End of Season 4? if it's 4 episodes... well, is 2030-32 a long wait in your opinion?

Is it worth the wait for a game like this? For me yes. What would I like to be finished sooner? Obvious. But seeing the number of unfinished games and many others with shitty endings, I prefer that it takes as long as it has to and do a good job.

 

[Michael_MAN]

James has to come back and he will
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Smth is wrong about him.
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[Lagunavii]

So it turns out that many AVNs are just boring and uninteresting because there is no challenge and serious consequences. This is how it works for me and I just quit them. These games were considered as just a replacement for porn, but projects like DIK, AL, some others - made them more than just "i want to wank on 3D fuckfest"

Yeah I get that and I'm ultimately the same. Far too many of these games get a pass for being ridiculous, but ultimately people need to remember they are AVNs at the end of the day... The clue to what they are is in the N. If you were reading it in the standard paperback format alot of people wouldn't get passed the 1st chapter. Drama, actions, consequences are still needed to drive the story forward. Just because you're telling it in a 3D way does not give you a pass to do whatever.

 

[spas]

Not in the least. I don't want to die before the Author completes the game.

Well, contact him and offer your help to finish sooner, some of you think that DPC has the budget and the people from electronic arts or something, everything good takes time and for me this game is worth the wait.


No, you don't. You speak for yourself. Like everybody else does (me as well).

Do you understand the difference between saying: I think I speak for the majority and I speak for the majority of people? It's an assumption based on the comments I read about the game. Nothing more and nothing less.


Well-done and appropriate ending = no more pointless 60fps animations and annoying minigames in the latest chapters.


Just because you don't like mini games doesn't mean it's a bad thing, you contradict your previous point.
"You speak for yourself"

Aren't you a naive fellow, bro. You won't see episode 12 before the end of 2026. End of Season 4? if it's 4 episodes... well, is 2030-32 a long wait in your opinion?

Is it worth the wait for a game like this? For me yes. What would I like to be finished sooner? Obvious. But seeing the number of unfinished games and many others with shitty endings, I prefer that it takes as long as it has to and do a good job.

bigest simp here thats why world is shit people stop be man gen Z shit f sake have balls

 

[John Ness]

Maaan, even weekly updates are late now

 

[Little Penguin]

bigest simp here thats why world is shit people stop be man gen Z shit f sake have balls

Nahhh, the world is shit because of people who do not know how to dialogue like civilized people and behave like animals, insulting and disrespecting instead of debating like homo sapiens, greetings.

 

[LizaS]

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Today's update will be short, which is good because we're at the end of the development cycle.

I've been play-testing for the better part of the week. I am now focusing on continuity and replaying the entire game, Episodes 1-11, during my tests. I will make a couple of playthroughs like this in the upcoming week, and it's pretty time-consuming as the game grows bigger.

I've also been taking some time to write content for episode 12 and write the code for the remaining mini-games in Season 3.

I checked the render speed of the animation queue today, and February 7-9 still stands as the completion date. Beta testing will commence shortly thereafter and beta testers have been alerted.

I will post a preliminary changelog for you next Friday and release the final preview of episode 11 before that.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

 

[spas]

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Today's update will be short, which is good because we're at the end of the development cycle.

I've been play-testing for the better part of the week. I am now focusing on continuity and replaying the entire game, Episodes 1-11, during my tests. I will make a couple of playthroughs like this in the upcoming week, and it's pretty time-consuming as the game grows bigger.

I've also been taking some time to write content for episode 12 and write the code for the remaining mini-games in Season 3.

I checked the render speed of the animation queue today, and February 7-9 still stands as the completion date. Beta testing will commence shortly thereafter and beta testers have been alerted.

I will post a preliminary changelog for you next Friday and release the final preview of episode 11 before that.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

the guy and mini bulshit games wtf wasting time and effort just stall next update will be after 2 year for mini craps XD ok next update will be when witcher 4 is coming XD

 

[Mr.Cailiflower]

the guy and mini bulshit games wtf wasting time and effort just stall next update will be after 2 year for mini craps XD ok next update will be when witcher 4 is coming XD

You realise he does chapter 12 content because he waiting for the animation renders?