VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

Darkwen look's like you have a tough competition
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I loved how quickly it turned out awkward for Josy, when Sage asked how she come up with the " beard" idea.
But my girl kept her mouth shut , and she doesn't even need a ball gag this time

 

[FreshRevenge]

I have a question I am doing this English test and it's the first one after the party. I used a scramber check but when I type in the words most of them don't work. Is there a answer list for this

 

[ChipLecsap]

no, when you're still in bed with her, just after the sex. She really looks sad. The one where MC says that he should be the one who holds his guard up to not let emotions play a role in it.

oh, when you go vanilla on her, yeah she pretty hated that

 

[Rehwyn]

Yeah whatever the player does in this episode, the one of Josy and Maya who sleeps alone and didnt got a "i love you" will look very unhappy at the end of the episode

They all behave kinda unfortunate too, the MC telling only one of them that he loves her, the one who got the "i love you" telling the other one that he said it to her ... it just looks and feels bad no matter what you do.

Does anyone else feel like the game is balanced towards maya somewhat when you try to keep it balanced?

I prefer Josy and in my pt's when i get all the points and even take more Josy events (i usually do josy after pete's visit, maya movie tv night, josy ep11 again) i always get the maya scene. I had to create a pt where i kinda always favored josy to get the josy scene.

In my case, I kept the Maya/Josy event choices essentially even, so the code to determine which scene I got in Ep 11 falls back to which has more relative relationship points. I'm pretty sure I got most, if not all, I can get on my particular path for both Maya and Josy, and I definitely had a higher proportion of Maya points compared to Josy for the calculation. So it seems to me that if you've been spending time evenly, it might be set up to slightly favor Maya.

As for forcing this MJ drama here, that annoyed me because I'd very intentionally been making a point of paying attention to both Maya and Josy, and supporting their relationship with each other. The last time a check came up for if I was treating them evenly (at the Halloween threesome when they compare), I passed as "balanced" without issue. So not even having the option in this Chapter irked me quite a bit because it essentially forced my MC to behave "out of character" for how I'd played him so far. An "in-character" choice would have had me pick Josy since I spent time with Maya in Chapter 10. And when I told Maya I loved her, you can bet your ass I'd be arranging some time ASAP, even if just a quick coffee break, to tell Josy the same.

I am, however, hesitantly giving DPC the benefit of the doubt for now and guessing the drama was introduced because:

1. Chapter 11 is the penultimate episode of this Season, and if you successfully got the contracts last chapter there otherwise wouldn't be much drama in the MJ relationship to "amp up the drama" and resolve next chapter. I haven't played any other paths this update yet, but I know DPC loves drama and it sounds like there's some drama in the other branches too.
2. I've suspected that a possible throuple breakup could be coming soon if you make poor decisions and treat them unevenly. Narratively it'd make sense to be soon, especially since next Season is supposedly the final and there needs to be time for possible solo Maya/Josy branches. Even if a breakup is not forced and you successfully save the relationship, using some of the same story elements, renders, and script in this Chapter is "efficient" to include as "content" for both possible outcomes. And DPC already has a ton of branching, so I could see why he might temporarily reduce some here.
3. If it is possible to keep the throuple, including some brief drama that you successfully resolve essentially "shows" the player the narrative "bullet" you dodged. If things stayed happy full-time, people that made good choices might not really realize they resolved some potential drama and some people that like that type of drama/tension might find the path "boring".

Now, I started BaDIK before I even heard of Acting Lessons. Needless to say, I've been a bit nervous since learning how the throuple was treated in there since I tend to prefer poly paths when given the option. I hope DPC doesn't perform a repeat. I'm hesitantly optimistic because the Maya/Josy deep discussion they have near the end of Bella's party on a "healthy" MJ throuple path is actually a good example of the types of difficult, but necessary, discussions needed to keep relationships healthy and does actually start resolving some the issues in their own relationship. And the existence of some earlier MJ checks having a possible "balanced" outcome does suggest one might be possible long-term.

However, if there's literally no possible way to save the MJ throuple regardless of what you choose, let's say I'm going to be very, very disappointed. One game with an unavoidable "bad end" for a poly relationship might be a choice you can write off as a "narrative decision". Two times would be a trend that would tell me DPC is just biased against polyamory since, in reality, poly relationships are on average just as healthy and committed as monogamous ones. Does anyone think that the Jill, Sage, or Bella monogamous branches will end in unavoidable breakups? I very much doubt it.

I have very little tolerance for such narrow-minded prejudice. If it turns out to be the case here, I will likely never play a game by DPC again and actively advise others to do the same.

 

[mruggeri2]

Check few pages upthread for specifics, but in Zoey's case it boils down to how you chose for MC to interact with her in past couple of episodes. Basically, giving her cold shoulder and/or telling Jacob you're okay with him hitting on her is interpreted by the game as sign MC has moved on. Same goes for telling either Maya or Josy that he loves them, which can happen in Ep.11.

Can you tell Maya that you love her? When does that happen? I seemed to have missed it.

 

[Chillout1984]

oh, when you go vanilla on her, yeah she pretty hated that

No, that gives a different reaction. I got it this way:

- Be on Chick Others route with both rolling lily and dating Nicole
- Say to Sage you're happy with rolling lily
- During Christmas party drop Nicole for Lily
- During sex with Lily go hard on her

this makes her extremely sad because she feels love for Tremolo, but he just wants rolling. She even ends with "i should better go" while slowly walking away

 

[ffive]

Oh all the time, that is new, I love how you can shape your own reality .

What, you think Josy who is in love with Fuckface is 99% of the time hanging out with him as nothing but pure, platonic friends and doesn't entertain at all the idea of them getting together romantically? That she has zero intentions and/or hopes that he might get together with her if they hang out enough?

so, just a little factuality. Sage officially became MC's girlfriend in the end of episode 8. ep 9 Josy ask you a question, ( - but you can even decide to not take a picture with her - ) you are free to answer to no.

Yeah, and you can freely tell Zoey no either. Or tell Jacob "sure, go ahead and hook up, i don't care" for this matter. In fact, Fuckface will even tell Zoey "no" automatically for you, unless you make a lot of choices that favor Zoey.

So what's the problem here, other than Sage being selectively insecure?

Now remind me of with Zoey, MC has any choice to not speak with her?! Except maybe not inviting her to read your mom diary. She show up in every party whether you want it or not.

Let's see. You have choices:

* to be mad at Zoey for leaving
* to tell her Derek is a better friend
* not to offer her to crash in your room
* not to make her participant in costume contest
* not to take photo with her
* give Jacob green light to date her
* not to hang out with her
* not to hug her when you do meet up
* and of course, to tell her you're not interested when she tells you about her feelings

Altogether, lots of choices to limit your interactions with her and make it clear you're not interested in her romantically.

and unlike with Josy, you actually presented the option to go back to her.

Right, because Josy didn't really ask you to get together with her.... yet.

and all this that if you actually choose to have history with Josy. Zoey by canonically, not by your choice, is an ex girlfriend, remind me who should Sage be more worried about again ?

There is no "canon" from in-game point of view. If you do choose for Fuckface to have history with Josy, then her history is of no different quality than the one MC has with Zoey. And as such, should trigger Sage just the same in such scenario. Except it mysteriously doesn't.

 

[Mars_ixv]

What path is this on?

Bella's but you stayed on Jill's path till episode 8. Best throuple incoming!

 

[ChipLecsap]

No, that gives a different reaction. I got it this way:

- Be on Chick Others route with both rolling lily and dating Nicole
- Say to Sage you're happy with rolling lily
- During Christmas party drop Nicole for Lily
- During sex with Lily go hard on her

this makes her extremely sad because she feels love for Tremolo, but he just wants rolling. She even ends with "i should better go" while slowly walking away

Oh. ok. You lost my interest with the Chick route and dating Nicole.
No offense of course

 

[jak1165]

Man, I can pretty easily suspend my disbelief for plenty of things, but Camilla hitting a dry spell? I think the fuck not. 2/10 immersion ruined

 

[ChipLecsap]

There is no "canon" from in-game point of view.
If you do choose for Fuckface to have history with Josy, then her history is of no different quality than the one MC has with Zoey. And as such, should trigger Sage just the same. Except it mysteriously doesn't.

There is, and there even a status about it in the phone. Even if you don't fuck anyone in the entire Game. MC still Fucked Zoey - "almost Virgin" -
so by default MC history is different with Zoey than with any other character in the game.

 

[Bloodguard]

Any ETA on the fan made walkthrough for Ep 11? Don't want to have to playthrough a bunch of paths twice due to the usual DPC score fuckery.

 

[ffive]

Can you tell Maya that you love her? When does that happen? I seemed to have missed it.

It works the same way it does with Josy -- depending on which of them MC spend more time, he'll get an outing with either Josy or Maya. If he hasn't looked at too many of other girls' asses, he gets option to tell Maya/Josy that he loves her, and if he's got enough relationship points with her, she'll reciprocate. Or keep silent if their relationship isn't high enough.

 

[Chillout1984]

Man, I can pretty easily suspend my disbelief for plenty of things, but Camilla hitting a dry spell? I think the fuck not. 2/10 immersion ruined

She just don't want to fuck anyone for free anymore except MC it seems xD

 

[Tinman021]

Can this game be played without the mini-games? I used to love this game, but then hit a wall with the mansion mini-game...I didn't like most of these mini-games, and the mansion mini-game was a bridge too far. I'm thinking of restarting with a new playthrough, if I can cut through all of this.

You need to restart from s1 or use mod to disable.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Any ETA on the fan made walkthrough for Ep 11? Don't want to have to playthrough a bunch of paths twice due to the usual DPC score fuckery.

twice , twice ?.
There are branching inside of the branching of the branching, based on previous decision from like episode 9, or even beyond.

 

[ffive]

There is, and there even a status about it in the phone. Even if you don't fuck anyone in the entire Game. MC still Fucked Zoey - "almost Virgin" -
so by default MC history is different with Zoey than with any other character in the game.

You misunderstood my point. There is no canon as far as characters and their mind processes are concerned. Sage doesn't know there's such thing as "story canon" that makes Zoey a guaranteed girlfriend but Josy an optional one. From Sage's point of view an ex is an ex, and they're equally exes the MC in that particular playthrough has equally valid pasts with.

 

[ChipLecsap]

She just don't want to fuck anyone for free anymore except MC it seems xD

You do guy realized that Quinn restaurant is closed right ? of course they are having some problem. that's what happens with prostitutes

 

[Remussx]

I must say the update was going really bad up until the party. There are some many love interests yet to be developed. Keep up the good job dev.

 

[Chillout1984]

You do guy realized that Quinn restaurant is closed right ? of course they are having some problem. that's what happens with prostitutes

Yeah, but the girls ingame think it's only paused, not completely closed. If they know it was closed, they might accept free sex more often again.