Blue Milk

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So you think that her main arc of "finding her identity" was planned from the very beginning? DPC really skimped on his talent in writing the characters here.
Yes, because insecurity and uncertainty was baked in from very early on and you can see it in Eps 1 & 2.

The reason that y'all seem so mad that it's "coming out of nowhere", which it isn't, is that a) you didn't pick up on the signs throughout the game, and b) you don't seem to realise how much she was putting her own life, her own self, on hold for Maya, a fact she acknoweldges in Ep 11 because that's exactly what she was doing this whole time. The fact that she was doing this is precisely why she hasn't had much development on her own because she putting someone else before herself and thus holding herself back from her own personal growth as well as even finding her voice, and again, it was plain to see this.

DPC didn't forget about her, he's not scrambling to make something for her with this quest to find her identity, he wrote her as a self-sacrificing, insecure girl who was so focused on helping Maya with her issue that she lost herself in the process, and now with that issue resolved, she doesn't know where she stands and who she is but now she's working on that and finally letting other people help and be there for her for a change.
 

Chillout1984

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I think Bianca's going to make the connection of MC being Lynette's son because when she gets the pictures, from the ski trip she's going to see the monkey face MC's making and refer back to her mother's picture with her friend's outside Jill's now family home.
That is if she indeed is Miranda's daughter (imo 99% certain) and remembers the picture of her mother.
 
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I think Bianca's going to make the connection of MC being Lynette's son because when she gets the pictures, from the ski trip she's going to see the monkey face MC's making and refer back to her mother's picture with her friend's outside Jill's now family home.
I doubt it, the mc's heritage revealed will probably happen in canon and not only on the jill path but maybe it happens at the same time
 

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I doubt it, the mc's heritage revealed will probably happen in canon and not only on the jill path but maybe it happens at the same time
My guess is it will happen on all paths but often on different moments. It's already quite certain we will also find out about his heritage on Sage's path, thanks to the seed planted in ep 11.
 

mangosok

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In June, coming up on playing this game 4 years.

So yes. I look back at some of the past events in the game and look at it that way.
I was referring to a strange feeling of nostalgia, not related to the game, but to your life. Although I understand what you mean. Replaying some episodes, I involuntarily recall the events that happened to me during the first playthrough. Music usually has that kind of influence, too.
 
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Yes, because insecurity and uncertainty was baked in from very early on and you can see it in Eps 1 & 2.

The reason that y'all seem so mad that it's "coming out of nowhere", which it isn't, is that a) you didn't pick up on the signs throughout the game, and b) you don't seem to realise how much she was putting her own life, her own self, on hold for Maya, a fact she acknoweldges in Ep 11 because that's exactly what she was doing this whole time. The fact that she was doing this is precisely why she hasn't had much development on her own because she putting someone else before herself and thus holding herself back from her own personal growth as well as even finding her voice, and again, it was plain to see this.

DPC didn't forget about her, he's not scrambling to make something for her with this quest to find her identity, he wrote her as a self-sacrificing, insecure girl who was so focused on helping Maya with her issue that she lost herself in the process, and now with that issue resolved, she doesn't know where she stands and who she is but now she's working on that and finally letting other people help and be there for her for a change.
She was more than ready to leave Maya for Mc even as early as EP 2. Don't you remember? She thought she wasn't admitted at B&R and was ready to skip town and before that she wanted MC to fuck her at their date even when she had already told him she was cheating(She truly is her Daddy' little girl, huh? xD) .

Don't try and sell this, "Oh, Josy was ALWAYS prioritizing Maya over herself the whole game" when we all know it's not true considering she is more obssesed with MC than pretty much any girl in this game regardless if you reject her or not.

She helps Maya sure, but that was AFTER they recoinciled when she got accepted at B&R. When Josy is alone she is all about prioritizing herself to the point of even asking MC if they think they would've worked together if things were differently or trying to seduce him in EP 10 regardless of the route if you hang out with her.
 
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Yes, because insecurity and uncertainty was baked in from very early on and you can see it in Eps 1 & 2.

The reason that y'all seem so mad that it's "coming out of nowhere", which it isn't, is that a) you didn't pick up on the signs throughout the game, and b) you don't seem to realise how much she was putting her own life, her own self, on hold for Maya, a fact she acknoweldges in Ep 11 because that's exactly what she was doing this whole time. The fact that she was doing this is precisely why she hasn't had much development on her own because she putting someone else before herself and thus holding herself back from her own personal growth as well as even finding her voice, and again, it was plain to see this.

DPC didn't forget about her, he's not scrambling to make something for her with this quest to find her identity, he wrote her as a self-sacrificing, insecure girl who was so focused on helping Maya with her issue that she lost herself in the process, and now with that issue resolved, she doesn't know where she stands and who she is but now she's working on that and finally letting other people help and be there for her for a change.
Nobody's mad. We note that this is boring for a game of this level where the characters are several levels deeper, interesting and multifaceted. Being DLC for Maya for 9 episodes, being insecure girl, and then trying to find herself after the problem is solved is weak writing.
I haven't seen her selflessly try to help Maya. The only thing she's achieved is talking to Jill. A big part of Josy's plot is that she has feelings for MC more than Maya. The person who really selflessly helped Maya was Tremolo himself.
 

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My Sage path is messed up. Made commitment to her. Played nearly through ep11 get to Bella party. No sex scene, and no love question, no Cammy option. What gives. Is it really about some comment to Derek way back in ep4? If so DPC sucks.

It is not the sex with Jade that is the problem. It's back before that.

Back in Episode 3, Jade puts her foot on MC's dick, if you do not stop her right there - you will NOT get the Sage love scene.
 
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Chillout1984

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Have somebody already found out who was demon mask girl at Moose bar? mb by her blue eyes
Yes, you can find out in an easily missable scene near the end of the panty party. She is the blonde girl with Nora-like hair from Yoga and science class, you also must talk to her at the beginning of the panty party.
 
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Blue Milk

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She was more than ready to leave Maya for Mc even as early as EP 2. Don't you remember? She thought she wasn't admitted at B&R and was ready to skip town and before that she wanted MC to fuck her at their date even when she had already told him she was cheating(She truly is her Daddy' little girl, huh? xD) .

Don't try and sell this, "Oh, Josy was ALWAYS prioritizing Maya over herself the whole game" when we all know it's not true considering she is more obssesed with MC than pretty much any girl in this game regardless if you reject her or not.

She helps Maya sure, but that was AFTER they recoinciled when she got accepted at B&R. When Josy is alone she is all about prioritizing herself to the point of even asking MC if they think they would've worked together if things were differently or trying to seduce him in EP 10 regardless of the route if you hang out with her.
The fact that she was considering running away was a direct result of her putting herself aside for Maya. She had pinned so much hope on being there together with her at college and it was looking like it wasn't happening and this was after who knows how long where she been supporting Maya through this issue with Patrick and probably also being there for her because of Helen. So she was thinking of impulsively doing something to escape it all because it was becoming too much for her at the time and the MC was also something impulsive; an easy escape from it all by being with him. But when she reunited with Maya, much of that went away when she remembered how much Maya means to her and how much she wants to be there for her and help her.

But those thoughts of the MC being a convenient escape have always remained with her and that's what it's always been for her; an obsession because of the stress of the situation she was in. But now with that situation resolved, she's confused about her feelings for him and for Maya are because she doesn't know what's lost and what's genuine anymore and that's what we're (hopefully) going to see be explored next.
 

mangosok

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Thanks
It isn't related to this, but i suspect that you did a riona path and i kinda wanna know if episode 11 is a good one on her path.
I mean all my route are on the chick path but i like the girl so i'm curious if i do a run to get her or even if a chick run is possible with her (i'm thinking it's not but fucking her or not in the hot party allow us to be her friend in a way)

I also wonder if i could do a sage chick path AND staying with her after the maya/josy reveal (episode 4 i believe, during the hell week), but the research fonction could help me in that regard.
Hey, I'm not sure if having a semi-loving relationship with Riona is going to be developed in episode 11. It so happened that in my first and main playthrough, Tremolo has a relationship with Sage, so I played episode 11 from that perspective. However, Riona stayed at home for the entire episode. The only interaction with her is to send a message around the end of the episode. I also have a second playthrough where I tried to build a relationship with Riona, but I'm stuck on episode 9 and so far I'm too lazy to read it all over again.
 
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