VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DavDR]

Maya just doesn't like HOTs, they wouldn't have liked it even if she got the free tuition ..

at first she considers them bitches, and after her experience with them I don't think she has changed her mind.
Quinn treated her very badly, Sage didn't even listen to her problems, not caring in the least about her situation. even Mona eventually "betrayed" her. and the other HOTs don't seem to me to have much in common with Maya (apart from MC's penis...)

these are all events that have also affected Josy but marginally. in my opinion, without a more or less explicit break between the two girls, it would still be strange that Josy moved to the HOTs.

we players know that Maya's father is an impending danger, but the girls are not, for the girls the father is the same danger that he represented when Josy arrived at the BR.

Maya should ask Josy to leave or Josy should propose it. but until when? until the end of college?

but also narratively: chapter 6 ended with a twist that this separation would make a sensational flop

I may be misunderstanding you but I get the impression that you feel that the HOT's are at fault for not liking Maya. If that's the case, I disagree.

Maya doesn't just dislike the HOT's, she specifically says that they are sluts. She looks down on them, thinks she's better than they are. People tend to notice attitude's like this and they tend to resent that attitude. For Maya's part, I believe she see's the HOT's as being like the girls in high school that shunned her, like that girl from the cafeteria scene (still can't remember her name). Still, it is what it is.

As far as Sage, if Maya had approached Sage in a more private setting and shown her the scavenger hunt list that Quinn assigned her, I think that her reaction would have been much different. This I think you just have to chalk up as bad writing, it's like the MC not being more specific about Quinn and the restaurant when he warn's Maya.

I think that Josy is different in this, with her friendly, outgoing personality she probably get's along with the HOT's much better than Maya does.

 

[DavDR]

the first scenario detonates the bomb, it is not credible that Maya's father finds her with Josy and is willing to believe the fairy tales they want to tell him

the second scenario would cancel the twist of the closing of the sixth chapter, at that point it would be better not to find anyone, at least in this way the twist would only be postponed.




I do not agree.

forget that it is very controversial that the father has the money of a student loan.

but if he does not find Josy in the room, the father MUST justify his presence, it is not that the tuition justifies any of his interference

it does not make sense. imagine even worse what would happen if Maya walked into the room with another girl, her father would go to jail.

so either the father already knows about Josy or he goes away.

here it is you who did not understand me.

that the father can show up at his daughter's door is a real risk, but this does not stop the two girls from living together.

finding him inside the room at night is another situation, but that one day he unexpectedly knocked on his daughter's room would have been a perfectly normal scenario, which the two girls did not care too much about.

so if they are not aware of their father's nocturnal visit I don't think they would change their behavior


the two sentences were in the same speech

I think you missed the point of the dialogue at the end of ep 6


This line already denotes that Maya is concerned about Josy living in the same room, the scene with the Father being in the room is kinda pointless.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

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Like I said, if you can't figure out the difference in those two situations, there's nothing to say. And so I will!

 

[felicemastronzo]

I may be misunderstanding you but I get the impression that you feel that the HOT's are at fault for not liking Maya. If that's the case, I disagree.

Maya doesn't just dislike the HOT's, she specifically says that they are sluts. She looks down on them, thinks she's better than they are. People tend to notice attitude's like this and they tend to resent that attitude. For Maya's part, I believe she see's the HOT's as being like the girls in high school that shunned her, like that girl from the cafeteria scene (still can't remember her name). Still, it is what it is.

As far as Sage, if Maya had approached Sage in a more private setting and shown her the scavenger hunt list that Quinn assigned her, I think that her reaction would have been much different. This I think you just have to chalk up as bad writing, it's like the MC not being more specific about Quinn and the restaurant when he warn's Maya.

I think that Josy is different in this, with her friendly, outgoing personality she probably get's along with the HOT's much better than Maya does.

partially, I try to explain better

Maya doesn't like the Hots, and it was definitely not a suitable environment for her and she thought of joining them exclusively for the free tuition

but in these first few weeks of life as an aspiring HOTs, her experience with them has not been positive.

she was Quinn's toy, and in this she was humiliated in front of the other HOTs too. there seemed to be a greater affinity with Mona, but even that relationship proved superficial.

Maya's opinion of the HOTs has certainly not improved

it's not the HOTs' fault because the HOTs are that, and they have nothing to do with Maya

while for example they are less distant from Josy's world

 

[Kellermann]

I think you missed the point of the dialogue at the end of ep 6
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This line already denotes that Maya is concerned about Josy living in the same room, the scene with the Father being in the room is kinda pointless.

Wow, DPC really did Maya dirty with that shot. She looks like a strung out, drunken zombie or something. I'm worried she's going to eat my brain instead of my dick.

Also, is there no building security at B&R? Outsiders can just come and go as they please at all hours of the day and night? Don't most campuses have some kind of keypad at the dormitory doors that at least lock at 5pm or something? Even Ms. Buzzcut receptionist apparently gives zero fucks about people strolling on by. I get that Maya's dad is a student parent, but allowing old men to walk the halls at night is a bit...odd. Especially when you consider the ladies have to use a hall toilet and shower. Is he a ninja? He never seems to be spotted by a scantily clad girl on her way back from the shower, who would certainly report him if not scream. He looks creepy as hell. Anyway, just odd.

 

[DavDR]

partially, I try to explain better

Maya doesn't like the Hots, and it was definitely not a suitable environment for her and she thought of joining them exclusively for the free tuition

but in these first few weeks of life as an aspiring HOTs, her experience with them has not been positive.

she was Quinn's toy, and in this she was humiliated in front of the other HOTs too. there seemed to be a greater affinity with Mona, but even that relationship proved superficial.

Maya's opinion of the HOTs has certainly not improved

it's not the HOTs' fault because the HOTs are that, and they have nothing to do with Maya

while for example they are less distant from Josy's world

With Josy, I think a lot of it is due to her personality. The MC even tell's her in ep1 that everyone likes her. Maya's shy, she's an introvert. Combined with her attitude that would make it very difficult for her to bond with the HOT's. This is why I think Josy will wind up living at the HOT's and Maya won't even accept her membership in the sorority and this is a diverging of path's for the couple. It doesn't add up to enough for a break but it's a crack for sure.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I just replayed the game and can't help but notice the tension between Bella and Jill in ep 5 when the shared a bed and more.
Did the have some sort of relationship before? I think Bella said something in the lines of "I stopped it". But hey that's just a theory AAAHHHh game theory.aanndddd cut.

I've certainly talked about about it many, many, many, many times, but it does have a strong hint that something happened between the two of them.

the eyes and especially the mouths are completely different. Heidi (and thanks for reminding me of the name) and the redhead have dimples, Leah doesn't

Which is why I said that this is maybe "modern" Leah; an homage to her but one that updates her appearance.

If DPC wanted to make a model that looked like Heidi from DFD, I'm sure he could have done better than that.

if they find out that he has the key they will have the lock changed, and may even report him.

Once they find out the dad has a key, I dunno, just change the fucking lock. It takes like 5 minutes to change a lock.

Given that these dorm rooms are owned by the college and are not their own personally owned rooms, I don't think they'd be able to change the locks themselves.

You're assuming the dad finds out about Josy and Maya being back together. There's a number of ways that could play out. One of which is the much theorized MC pretending to be Maya or Josy's boyfriend. Or maybe Josy has to take a shit, and only Maya and MC go to the room first and find the dad, and while they confront him, Josy hears it from the outside and stays away. Or some other scenario.

But the danger of Daddy showing up whenever he pleases unannounced still remains. And so Josy moves in to the HOT house.

As for "waiting for what to happen?" Thats literally what Maya's plotline is about. Finding a solution to her dad's bullshit.

Well, changing the key won't really do anything, imo. The dad managed to get a key somehow in the first place. Presumably, he'd just a copy of the new key the same way.

I'm hoping it's something like this, that it's a near-miss with Josy managing to avoid being seen by Maya's Dad but knowing that he was there and got in to their room results in Josy going to back to the HOTs to essentially "hide out" since he could come back unannounced at any time.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I'm hoping it's something like this, that it's a near-miss with Josy managing to avoid being seen by Maya's Dad but knowing that he was there and got in to their room results in Josy going to back to the HOTs to essentially "hide out" since he could come back unannounced at any time.

Same. Although, I also really like the idea of confronting the dad at the room. He blows up and cuts Maya off. But her tuition is already paid up for this year/term/whatever, so he can't do anything about that. And the MC/Josy/whoeverelse begin the journey of helping Maya raise money and stay on her own two feet without her piece of shit dad. Narratively, I like this option the best.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Same. Although, I also really like the idea of confronting the dad at the room. He blows up and cuts Maya off. But her tuition is already paid up for this year/term/whatever, so he can't do anything about that. And the MC/Josy/whoeverelse begin the journey of helping Maya raise money and stay on her own two feet without her piece of shit dad. Narratively, I like this option the best.

Narratively, it would be good to confront the Dad right now, but given this is DPC we're talking about, they're likely to want to stretch out the drama a bit longer, and so by not having the conflict with him finding out about Josy, or even him not being in the room when they get back, this would do just that and I'm leaning more towards something like this.

Also, if Josy is forced to hide out in the HOT house, it also creates an element that could re-open those briefly repaired cracks in their relationship because, once again, they're forced to be apart, albeit not as much as they were before. It could lead to some bad feelings between Maya and Josy which could potentially lead to a proper break up and solo paths, or if you're on the M&J path, then the MC could be like a strong pillar for both of them that keeps that from happening.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Narratively, it would be good to confront the Dad right, but given this is DPC we're talking about, they're likely to want to stretch out the drama a bit longer, and so by not having the conflict with him finding out about Josy, or even him not being in the room when they get back, this would do just that and I'm leaning more towards something like this.

Also, if Josy is forced to hide out in the HOT house, it also creates an element that could re-open those briefly repaired cracks in their relationship because, once again, they're forced to be apart, albeit not as much as they were before. It could lead to some bad feelings between Maya and Josy which could potentially lead to a proper break up and solo paths, or if you're on the M&J path, then the MC could be like a strong pillar for both of them that keeps that from happening.

True, true. That makes sense. Thats actually probably better in terms of this being a game.

 

[felicemastronzo]

With Josy, I think a lot of it is due to her personality. The MC even tell's her in ep1 that everyone likes her. Maya's shy, she's an introvert. Combined with her attitude that would make it very difficult for her to bond with the HOT's. This is why I think Josy will wind up living at the HOT's and Maya won't even accept her membership in the sorority and this is a diverging of path's for the couple. It doesn't add up to enough for a break but it's a crack for sure.

it is not difficult to create a breach between the two girls.

as long as Maya asks her to find accommodation or the idea of a fake boyfriend ...

and this breach would completely justify Josy going to the HOTS.

Given that these dorm rooms are owned by the college and are not their own personally owned rooms, I don't think they'd be able to change the locks themselves.

if this key is in the possession of her father (or a stranger in general if they do not want to report Maya's father) they have every reason to request the replacement of the lock and the College has no reason to refuse

 

[felicemastronzo]

Wow, DPC really did Maya dirty with that shot. She looks like a strung out, drunken zombie or something. I'm worried she's going to eat my brain instead of my dick.

Also, is there no building security at B&R? Outsiders can just come and go as they please at all hours of the day and night? Don't most campuses have some kind of keypad at the dormitory doors that at least lock at 5pm or something? Even Ms. Buzzcut receptionist apparently gives zero fucks about people strolling on by. I get that Maya's dad is a student parent, but allowing old men to walk the halls at night is a bit...odd. Especially when you consider the ladies have to use a hall toilet and shower. Is he a ninja? He never seems to be spotted by a scantily clad girl on her way back from the shower, who would certainly report him if not scream. He looks creepy as hell. Anyway, just odd.

but above all, a father who wants to supervise (in a legal and less legal way) the behavior of his daughter, may not know the name of the girl who has been assigned as a roommate?

 

[Kellermann]

but above all, a father who wants to supervise (in a legal and less legal way) the behavior of his daughter, may not know the name of the girl who has been assigned as a roommate?

I guess Maya's dormitory security as with a lot of other things related to the Maya situation fall within the category of suspending your disbelief. In the same way that you can't exactly believe a male student arrives on campus and within a couple of weeks bangs every woman within a 500 meter radius of himself, including several faculty members.

 

[magic_and_more]

My absolutly favourite game!!! Really great work and story. Can't wait for the next part!

 

[felicemastronzo]

I guess Maya's dormitory security as with a lot of other things related to the Maya situation fall within the category of suspending your disbelief. In the same way that you can't exactly believe a male student arrives on campus and within a couple of weeks bangs every woman within a 500 meter radius of himself, including several faculty members.

sometimes happens

so they told me

 

[shazba]

Also, is there no building security at B&R? Outsiders can just come and go as they please at all hours of the day and night? Don't most campuses have some kind of keypad at the dormitory doors that at least lock at 5pm or something? Even Ms. Buzzcut receptionist apparently gives zero fucks about people strolling on by. I get that Maya's dad is a student parent, but allowing old men to walk the halls at night is a bit...odd. Especially when you consider the ladies have to use a hall toilet and shower. Is he a ninja? He never seems to be spotted by a scantily clad girl on her way back from the shower, who would certainly report him if not scream. He looks creepy as hell. Anyway, just odd.

I guess Maya's dormitory security as with a lot of other things related to the Maya situation fall within the category of suspending your disbelief. In the same way that you can't exactly believe a male student arrives on campus and within a couple of weeks bangs every woman within a 500 meter radius of himself, including several faculty members.

The security are too busy chasing naked dudes to notice clothed people coming and going from the campus.

Given that these dorm rooms are owned by the college and are not their own personally owned rooms, I don't think they'd be able to change the locks themselves

Dorm room tips 101. Change your fucking lock immediately. Otherwise previous students would have a key to access your shit. You'll probably find that Maya's dad did change the lock for Maya, that's why he has a key...

With Josy, I think a lot of it is due to her personality. The MC even tell's her in ep1 that everyone likes her. Maya's shy, she's an introvert. Combined with her attitude that would make it very difficult for her to bond with the HOT's. This is why I think Josy will wind up living at the HOT's and Maya won't even accept her membership in the sorority and this is a diverging of path's for the couple. It doesn't add up to enough for a break but it's a crack for sure.

It took me forever to accept that Maya was an introvert. Her first meeting the MC she was so bubbly and forward, that really it was only her sexuality that was introverted. Sure she thought the HOTs were sluts, but they were parading topless in front of their house at the time of introduction. But I guess as the game progressed it was more and more obvious that she was a loner, even if she was extremely forward towards the MC.

Also, if Josy is forced to hide out in the HOT house, it also creates an element that could re-open those briefly repaired cracks in their relationship because, once again, they're forced to be apart, albeit not as much as they were before. It could lead to some bad feelings between Maya and Josy which could potentially lead to a proper break up and solo paths, or if you're on the M&J path, then the MC could be like a strong pillar for both of them that keeps that from happening.

Their issue before was that their entire relationship was long distant (does that like ever work out?). Staying in different housing but seeing each other every day is the key to an awesome relationship, not a break in the relationship. Once you move in together that's when shit starts going downhill.

but above all, a father who wants to supervise (in a legal and less legal way) the behavior of his daughter, may not know the name of the girl who has been assigned as a roommate?

I imagine that information would be confidential. The dad can't just walk up to admin and say, "Give me the lowdown on my daughter's roommate".

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I imagine that information would be confidential. The dad can't just walk up to admin and say, "Give me the lowdown on my daughter's roommate".

To be fair, parents can ask for names or contact details of the roommate. My parents did that when I was in college, when they couldn't get to me and it was urgent. Or they wanted to pass on a message. All Maya's dad has to do is ask who Maya's roomie is, and proceed to lose his shit.

 

[Gladheim]

To be fair, parents can ask for names or contact details of the roommate. My parents did that when I was in college, when they couldn't get to me and it was urgent. Or they wanted to pass on a message. All Maya's dad has to do is ask who Maya's roomie is, and proceed to lose his shit.

You ask a lot for a simple game xd the thing is not so simple in DPC's head

 

[felicemastronzo]

I imagine that information would be confidential. The dad can't just walk up to admin and say, "Give me the lowdown on my daughter's roommate".

someone gave him the keys ....

come on...


it can also be confidential information, but if one wants to find out, he finds out

it's not a secret, just ask the girls in the next room

 

[OFT]

It’s the most bizarre thing...

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a keyboard where the question mark key works, but not the period.

you...

writers...

pushed...

Hold the phone. It does work. I guess it just comes in threes.