VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[funkymonkeyjedi]

While today update is underwhelming it has some useful info.

The size of the static queue (250 renders) plus the fact the animation queue is fairly large (probably 30+)

There have been much worse reports data wise.

I honestly prefer getting something every week, even if it sometimes isn't much.

Saying "update is underwhelming" is putting it mildly.

And this whole new culture of "oh well even if it's so little we have to be grateful" is a new level of brown-nosing and acceptance of getting less and being happy with it. This new tactic of DPC to keep progress numbers hidden is nothing short of a way to discourage people from getting a proper development map, so players get even more "edgy" about how most likely Ep12 will fall close to a 2 yr dev cycle.

It's not working.
If anything, it's going to have the opposite effect if DPC thought obscuring numbers would have a positive outcome. And this has already begun, and I don't mean myself. I'm actually late to that party by several months.

 

[Deleted member 8053100]

Is it me or is Jill acting weird after you get together officially? And why the fuck does her face look like my cousin's face???

 

[redbone89]

The depth of that hole you dug into it, isn't very flattering.
If I were you, I'd rethink that joke.

hahahahahaha it was just a pic from google ^^ (cries inside)

 

[Krytax123]

Saying "update is underwhelming" is putting it mildly.

And this whole new culture of "oh well even if it's so little we have to be grateful" is a new level of brown-nosing and acceptance of getting less and being happy with it. This new tactic of DPC to keep progress numbers hidden is nothing short of a way to discourage people from getting a proper development map, so players get even more "edgy" about how most likely Ep12 will fall close to a 2 yr dev cycle.

It's not working.
If anything, it's going to have the opposite effect if DPC thought obscuring numbers would have a positive outcome. And this has already begun, and I don't mean myself. I'm actually late to that party by several months.

I mean youre kinda right but DPC doesnt give a shit anyway so its kinda a nothing-burger. He doesnt even give a shit about really valid and impactful feedback he surely wont care what people think about this decision.

I dont even really get it as his numbers (renders&animation/week) are usually superior to all other avn's, his development speed is good and yet he feels the need to hide it.

But its obvious that he doesnt want people to make any "development maps", he just does his thing and when its ready its ready. Its probably less pressure for him that way and he simply doesnt care how anxious or impatient his fans and supporters are lol

You make it sound like it will turn into a huge disaster for him but it wont, even if some patreons quit because of it, he doesnt give a shit.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I mean youre kinda right but DPC doesnt give a shit anyway so its kinda a nothing-burger. He doesnt even give a shit about really valid and impactful feedback he surely wont care what people think about this decision.

I dont even really get it as his numbers (renders&animation/week) are usually superior to all other avn's, his development speed is good and yet he feels the need to hide it.

But its obvious that he doesnt want people to make any "development maps", he just does his thing and when its ready its ready. Its probably less pressure for him that way and he simply doesnt care how anxious or impatient his fans and supporters are lol

You make it sound like it will turn into a huge disaster for him but it wont, even if some patreons quit because of it, he doesnt give a shit.

Everything you said is 100% true.

My disappointment is indeed with his morons on patreon. One thing I learned in business is, when you want to make a dent in a company or business is to set your aim on their bank accounts. That's the only time they listen. When their profits fall below what they think is acceptable is when they clean the wax out of their ears and pretend to give a shit about you and listen. So long as there are retards on Patreon treating him like he walks on water, this shit will only get worse.

 

[Mordreut]

Everything you said is 100% true.

My disappointment is indeed with his morons on patreon. One thing I learned in business is, when you want to make a dent in a company or business is to set your aim on their bank accounts. That's the only time they listen. When their profits fall below what they think is acceptable is when they clean the wax out of their ears and pretend to give a shit about you and listen. So long as there are retards on Patreon treating him like he walks on water, this shit will only get worse.

I fully agree... Until DPC realizes his pocket isn't as full as it should, he will always have the option of procrastinate because he is being paid

 

[Krytax123]

Everything you said is 100% true.

My disappointment is indeed with his morons on patreon. One thing I learned in business is, when you want to make a dent in a company or business is to set your aim on their bank accounts. That's the only time they listen. When their profits fall below what they think is acceptable is when they clean the wax out of their ears and pretend to give a shit about you and listen. So long as there are retards on Patreon treating him like he walks on water, this shit will only get worse.

I mean im honestly somewhat fine with it/dont care too much.

As long as he keeps giving us a good product i take no numbers in devlogs (which i rarely read anyway) over devs who produce detailed devlogs every week showcasing how they produced 5 renders this week

And there are two sides of the coin, devs who tend to listen to their communitys (too much) are rarely successful as they compromise their vision for money (just look at all the devs adding ntr for example because they have two whales into it or whatever).

Being a DIK would be a different (worse) game if DPC would have listened to the whiny bitchy avn community who expect all girls to be virgins and no other guys existing.

So yeah thats why im fine with it even if the dev takes decisions i dislike, i would never be a nonstop supporter tho

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

And there are two sides of the coin, devs who tend to listen to their communitys (too much) are rarely successful as they compromise their vision for money (just look at all the devs adding ntr for example because they have two whales into it or whatever).

Being a DIK would be a different (worse) game if DPC would have listened to the whiny bitchy avn community who expect all girls to be virgins and no other guys existing.

So yeah thats why im fine with it even if the dev takes decisions i dislike, i would never be a nonstop supporter tho

Again I can't disagree.
But also, when dev cycles get this long, having a rough idea of where progress is at is an excellent way to squelch the "When's the next update coming?" gang.

And I also agree with devs giving into compromising their vision of their product, typically ends up chasing the main player base away, for the pleas of a minority. And it's not because that minority cries and screams the loudest that it means they have to be catered to. Young devs need to learn that if they want to succeed. But DPC is anything but a young dev.

 

[Facttho]

I mean im honestly somewhat fine with it/dont care too much.

As long as he keeps giving us a good product i take no number in devlogs (which i rarely read anyway) over devs who produce detailed devlogs every week showcasing how they produced 5 renders this week

And there are two sides of the coin, devs who tend to listen to their communitys (too much) are rarely successful as they compromise their vision for money (just look at all the devs adding ntr for example because they have two whales into it or whatever).

Being a DIK would be a different (worse) game if DPC would have listened to the whiny bitchy avn community who expect all girls to be virgins and no other guys existing.

So yeah thats why im fine with it even if the dev takes decisions i dislike, i would never be a nonstop supporter tho

DPC has said this before, hes not going back to work on this after the VN is finished, so we should be happy that he wants to do massive updates. Its gonna be over one day... and yeah he is not forcing anyone to sub to his patreon, ppl do it because they are addicted to this fine ass game

 

[WinstonChurchill Shows]

While today update is underwhelming it has some useful info.

The size of the static queue (250 renders) plus the fact the animation queue is fairly large (probably 30+)

There have been much worse reports data wise.

I honestly prefer getting something every week, even if it sometimes isn't much.

A+ for effort lol


Never going to happen.

Mark my words I honestly doubt that Jill will even get a threesome.


Now welcome to the hell of waiting for the next update.

You joined fairly late in the cycle, only some 3-4 months for you.

Just wait for when u gotta wait a full cycle, that's when sanity starts to slip.

don't know why but this image came to mind instantly

 

[ModiThorrson]

All these posts about possible foursomes with Josy/Maya .. is it really this hot for you?

Two hot chicks are really enough lol, afterwards it becomes hard to split your attention at least somewhat evenly and becomes more like work than fun lol.

I honestly just want more 1on1 scenes with both of them or more casual threesomes (not in a swimming bath or them wearing strange costumes). Both look the most sexy being dressed casually too.

In general I feel like so far the JM throuple lacks deepth and emotions and the only moments we got that was when its only with one of them, its always kinda shallow and/or awkward when all three of them are around imo.

The relationship aspect is lacking despite both of maya and josy do want a "normal" relationship while it (was) the other way around with sage for example, there was a lot of good relationship building despite she didnt wanted to be a "girlfriend" in the beginning (and than went all in lol)

Well that depends, if you look at it like your typical AVN and it's just the MC servicing 4 women? nah boring, but if it's an actual 4-way and the girls are all interacting with each other as well as the MC? Then hell yes. Though I'm much more interested in them exploring their relationship, but it wouldn't bother me if they decided to invite sage in for some fun at some point.

 

[WinstonChurchill Shows]

Tybalt is a classic, but i choose another two: the nerd beating Derek after the wedgie and Tommy's reaction after the Josy/Maya threesome

fk. the threesome relationship never interested me so I never went with it and you saying tommy finds out just gave me a reason to go with it . Thanks for the info

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I am working on art for a special branched part of the episode. I estimate I need 300+ renders to create the scenes associated with this special part. The environment is designed, the characters are set up, and I have begun posing it. I will be able to pose renders at a good rate next week.

I know what this means, it's so obvious

 

[neznanec92]

My prediction is easter release.

 

[Mordreut]

I know what this means, it's so obvious
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Keep dreaming. Although I would prefer yoga girl branch than many of the other options.

But the problem is... Did you dare to cheat your goddess Isabella?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Keep dreaming. Although I would prefer yoga girl branch than many of the other options.

But the problem is... Did you dare to cheat your goddess Isabella?

You need to learn to read between the lines. DPC said it's a special branch, not a Main Girl or Others branch. Yoga Girl is indeed special, and deserves her own branch.

Cheat on her? Never. That's why God created multiple saves

 

[dalli_x]

He said choices, not the mini-games outcomes. Winning or losing the mini-game is not a choice. It's definitely a material for some cosmetic differences throughout the playthrough - more or less (tennis - less, mansion restoration - more). But it would be ridiculous if this somehow affects the plot and the canon story. For example, with mansion mini-game and outcome, DPC would have to create a major branching for EVERY current one. But we already seen very minor effect of this mini-game outcome in EP10.

Yes, DPC wrote about decisions. It is the player's decision whether he has turned off the mini-games, whether he lets the MC learn or whether the MC cheats. Think along these lines. They are the player's decisions.

DPC can't technically branch the plot and story core for such minor stuff and moments. It would result in multiplying everything else by such particular sub-branches count. It's impossible and not needed as well. LI branches and different permutations between them as well as some of the major/minor choices - yes, that's what you will probably get and will be able to mix and should get a particular result in the end. Game LI branches and their interference is already quite complicated, why you think he will multiply it all with something insignificant like mini-games outcomes?

DPC has already incorporated the results of mini-games into the story. Why are you ignoring that? Example: villa renovation. Can Rusty keep his car or not? This results in different stories in retrospect.

Why? All branching and outcomes as well as future potential endings - all based on variables. It's how games and other similar software works. You can only check what game remembers and what not. But you can't tell what is significant and may turn the story in one or another way or just have some major consequences, or it will be used just for cosmetics and so on (like changing a couple of lines in dialogue here and there or/and a couple of renders).

Both tennis matches (in EP4 & EP7) outcomes are recorded (win/lose) and transferred into Season 3:

ep4_wonTennis
ep7_wonTennis

But it doesn't mean that it may become a serious point and could turn the story in 180 degree at some moment. Most probably it will be used as dialogue/render changer in some future episodes, where MC would play tennis again (or maybe talk about it with somebody - girls, their parents, his friends, whoever else). Nothing more here. Same goes for fights. But here you can choice to fight or not to fight (not always, but in half of situations) and fights have 2 outcomes - you win or you lose. This is also recorded in different variables.

Just don't separate all this, your theories, etc from game engine, programming language and other limitations and so on.

You just don't understand it. DPC can twist and turn his story as he pleases. You are far too fixated on the existing code and forget that with every new EP, new lines of code are added that build on the older variables and can lead to completely different results in the story.

Spoiler: Example: tennis

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In EP1 MC mentioned that his father doesn't have a very good memory. So in this example - MC remember when it happened while his dad is not.

Yes, you're right that the MC said in EP1 so that his father has a bad memory, but you forget that in EP10 the MC says that his father is the smartest person he knows. Neil also remembers well that the MC was a female ghost and other embarrassing situations. Ever thought about whether Neil intentionally has a bad memory when it comes to Lynette and her family because the MC shouldn't know all the details.

In EP10 the MC says that his father must have intentionally left out the detail about Lynette being naked.

 

[redbone89]

i have a theroy....
i belive that Sally will dicive karen into takeing some Xanax.. and eventually iy will lead to this...

lewd times with two pill junkies >

 

[Mordreut]

You need to learn to read between the lines. DPC said it's a special branch, not a Main Girl or Others branch. Yoga Girl is indeed special, and deserves her own branch.

Cheat on her? Never. That's why God created multiple saves

Multiple saves? Heresy!!!!! All your saves must be used only in Isabella

Let's see "special" candidates (No MG no Others): Sally (nerd girl, right?), Deaf girl, Jill's friend, Jill's mother, Elena, Traitor girl, Jenny... The chances are so-so, but there are worst options, I agree in that

 

[ChipLecsap]

Well to be fair, he never did share weekly data with all the posed statics/animations so it's the same thing every since I started doing my predictions, so this isn't a new tactic.

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-10-1-drpinkcake.25332/post-8646429

Work completed:

• 2815 renders (2694 renders produced, 121 in the render queue)
• 205 animations (179 animations produced, 26 in the render queue)
• 13 songs
• 2 sound effects
• 23747 written lines of code for story + free roam events. It's the biggest episode in terms of content, based on this number alone. Episode 8 had 22055 lines of code, 7% less by this standard.