Roger-a-Dale
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The conversation is going all over the place so I'm just going to explain my reasoning in detail.
DPC could have programmed the success/failure of getting the documents like this: Punch Patrick -> fail, Rescue Maya -> succeed, Confront Patrick -> success depends on behaviour. The meaning of the Patrick choice would be in the success.
However, it is possible to choose the Chick option and still fail and the DIK option and still succeed. The existence of these possibilities implies that how you deal with Patrick and whether you get the documents have more intricate consequences. And since these options exist for all paths the consequences should likewise affect all paths.
No doubt the meta objective is to create intricacy for the final ending's good/bad status so that players have motive to replay the game to see it all, but this should feel natural from the story perspective.
I assume that the endings will depend largely on how you score on the major choices across the game and thus the Patrick choice means something for all paths, but since the document success and failure are possibilities on all options they must have an effect beyond adding flavour to the Patrick choice.
I assume that DPC intends for it to be possible to split Josy and Maya up for solo paths and also for the throuple to last. I also assume that Josy is going to have some drama that is directly hers rather than second hand from Maya. Leaving these to s 4 would be rather late in the game so I assume they will happen either in ep 11 or 12.
Getting the documents is winning a battle. That battle does not decide the entire war, but it is the basis for Maya's (and also other's) mood in the near future. If Josy's drama happens soon, it would be natural for that mood to decide if Maya and Josy stay together or if it is just too much and they crumble. The player has agency on their staying together, but indirectly. It would be more complicated than how much of an asshole the MC is.
If it is planned for the solo paths to exist it wouldn't take much extra effort to add the break up for all paths and that would naturally increase the intricacy that will allow a more complicated set of endings.
To sum up: DPC went out of his way to make the results of the Patrick choice more complicated than they needed to be. He isn't guaranteed to make these twists just because I see the opportunity for it, but it seems to me that he deliberately created that opportunity. So why would he waste it?
And one last thing. What is Josy's drama going to be? Well Tommy has a drug problem and his girlfriend just broke up with him. He might simply OD. Or he could get hurt in the Rio rescue. I don't think he would die, but it would be a major crisis for the Taylor family. We'd finally meet Monica (and possibly get to fuck her) and it would also open up possibilities for Heather.
DPC could have programmed the success/failure of getting the documents like this: Punch Patrick -> fail, Rescue Maya -> succeed, Confront Patrick -> success depends on behaviour. The meaning of the Patrick choice would be in the success.
However, it is possible to choose the Chick option and still fail and the DIK option and still succeed. The existence of these possibilities implies that how you deal with Patrick and whether you get the documents have more intricate consequences. And since these options exist for all paths the consequences should likewise affect all paths.
No doubt the meta objective is to create intricacy for the final ending's good/bad status so that players have motive to replay the game to see it all, but this should feel natural from the story perspective.
I assume that the endings will depend largely on how you score on the major choices across the game and thus the Patrick choice means something for all paths, but since the document success and failure are possibilities on all options they must have an effect beyond adding flavour to the Patrick choice.
I assume that DPC intends for it to be possible to split Josy and Maya up for solo paths and also for the throuple to last. I also assume that Josy is going to have some drama that is directly hers rather than second hand from Maya. Leaving these to s 4 would be rather late in the game so I assume they will happen either in ep 11 or 12.
Getting the documents is winning a battle. That battle does not decide the entire war, but it is the basis for Maya's (and also other's) mood in the near future. If Josy's drama happens soon, it would be natural for that mood to decide if Maya and Josy stay together or if it is just too much and they crumble. The player has agency on their staying together, but indirectly. It would be more complicated than how much of an asshole the MC is.
If it is planned for the solo paths to exist it wouldn't take much extra effort to add the break up for all paths and that would naturally increase the intricacy that will allow a more complicated set of endings.
To sum up: DPC went out of his way to make the results of the Patrick choice more complicated than they needed to be. He isn't guaranteed to make these twists just because I see the opportunity for it, but it seems to me that he deliberately created that opportunity. So why would he waste it?
And one last thing. What is Josy's drama going to be? Well Tommy has a drug problem and his girlfriend just broke up with him. He might simply OD. Or he could get hurt in the Rio rescue. I don't think he would die, but it would be a major crisis for the Taylor family. We'd finally meet Monica (and possibly get to fuck her) and it would also open up possibilities for Heather.
