VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Darkwen]

For me, DPC's biggest mistake is that he didn't write development arc and personality for Josy from the very beginning. She was just an addition to Maya and her problems, a kind of DLC for a polyamorous experiment. Now, if Maya's problems are solved with a good outcome, then what's next?
DPC is trying to quickly write something for her, come up with a hobby and a new drama: identity crisis Josy "I don't know who I am", "I don't know if I love Maya", "I'm unhappy". Some cheap fast-written drama. It looks boring in comparison with a bunch of other LIs with their complex personalities and tragic backstories, Josy looks lost here among this variety of wonderful characters.
Even if we compare two dates - Josy and Maya on Throuple route, which starting to branch on auto: Maya's is a huge W.
And comparing her with Zoey, they are completely different characters. Zoey story is about unspoken words that were needed in time and an attempt to return to the past, but unlike Josy, she is interesting, cool, talented, bright against the background of other LIs. This is a girl with you want to take a beer and have a heart-to-heart talk about life, easy vibing with her.

For me Josy got great personality and development arc but I'm very bias when it comes to that I do think DPC did change his original plan with her but what we saw with Josy feeling lost and needing a hobby wasn't the change that actually on pair for her with what we seen at least since ep2.

I think originally Josy and Maya wasn't going to be a couple just friends but Maya's path would had been totally unplayable especially when Maya starts playing victims cards right and left or being all doom and gloom. Josy balances her out she the sunshine to Maya's rain DPC needed to put them together at the start to give people a reason to play for Maya.

 

[Chillout1984]

Shame she has her hair colored white imo. Natural color is the way to go.
Other than that, noice.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

For me Josy got great personality and development arc but I'm very bias when it comes to that I do think DPC did change his original plan with her but what we saw with Josy feeling lost and needing a hobby wasn't the change that actually on pair for her with what we seen at least since ep2.

I think originally Josy and Maya wasn't going to be a couple just friends but Maya's path would had been totally unplayable especially when Maya starts playing victims cards right and left or being all doom and gloom. Josy balances her out she the sunshine to Maya's rain DPC needed to put them together at the start to give people a reason to play for Maya.

Not really prior to the josy reveal, Maya was the main love interest and wasn't all woe is me. She became worse after the josy relationship

 

[Orgitas]

Have somebody already found out who was demon mask girl at Moose bar? mb by her blue eyes

Nikita, white ish pink haired girl in ep11

 

[mangosok]

When on Quinn's route MC learns what really happened to Riona and he sends her an extra text message telling her he knows it. That is the only difference.
MC doesn't talk to Riona at all in this episode.

Thanks! You just saved my time.

very disappointing development for those two specifically.

Yeah, totally

 

[Chillout1984]

Nikita, white ish pink haired girl in ep11

Would be a funny and totally insane bait and switch if Nikita is someone else (like Cindy's black haired friend) and Cindy turns out to be Priscilla

 

[Better Cock Spock]

All this teasing with 'Cinderella' will just result in her making out with Leon at the next party just like KRJ got with Jamie this time. What's the point?

First off,

Second, Leon doesn't want to make out with any girls, except for Jamie.

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[Darkwen]

Not really prior to the josy reveal, Maya was the main love interest and wasn't all woe is me. She became worse after the josy relationship

The whole first season is about Josy even if she didn't have a lot of screen time she is the central LI. Maya was nothing but woe is me from the start with very little good moments without Josy, Maya is worse then even madame now I will say from the dorm party onward Maya grows a lot

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

For me Josy got great personality and development arc but I'm very bias when it comes to that I do think DPC did change his original plan with her but what we saw with Josy feeling lost and needing a hobby wasn't the change that actually on pair for her with what we seen at least since ep2.

I think originally Josy and Maya wasn't going to be a couple just friends but Maya's path would had been totally unplayable especially when Maya starts playing victims cards right and left or being all doom and gloom. Josy balances her out she the sunshine to Maya's rain DPC needed to put them together at the start to give people a reason to play for Maya.

People are too harsh on Maya with these “victim cards”, because she really got a lot, living in a natural hell.
Maya's main problem was this line of loan that dragged on, also considering the long development of the game and people just burned out from this "loan loan loan" all the time. DPC did a really tremendous job revealing Maya from her good sides in Ep.10 and showing how wonderful and strong person she is. And continued this in Ep.11. Look at the option if you failed to steal the papers. Maya doesn't blame anyone, she accepts it with dignity and thanks everyone for their support and help, and how good it is that she found such good friends. This is the second ascent for Maya and it was done wonderfully.

I'm very bias when it comes to that

You do

 

[mangosok]

The whole first season is about Josy even if she didn't have a lot of screen time she is the central LI. Maya was nothing but woe is me from the start with very little good moments without Josy, Maya is worse then even madame now I will say from the dorm party onward Maya grows a lot

Alady

 

[Blue Milk]

Youre kind overplaying the "I saw it all along and it was so well displayed, youre just blind!" role

And half of the stuff youre writing is your headcannon, josy actually tells us what troubles her during the second date:

She is lonely.

Its not mainly worries for maya, or about patrick or maya's mom. She herself simply feels lonely, the reason for that may be patrick partially but not fully considering maya is at b&r already and they dont have real contact.

Yes josy always had some body insecuritys about her height (which is not really this unusual for even very pretty girls to have a insecurity about a part of their body) but youre trying to paint a lot of youre headcannon as hard facts and a masterful storyline.

She's lonely because she feels isolated, and she's isolated because she's keeping so much of herself bottled up and held back but also because she's not able to see or be with her partner and says as much on the latter during the Ep 2 date. She feels alone because she feels that no-one is there for her which is why she clings so much to her infatuation for the MC because he's giving her what she craves; someone to be there for her.

And I never said anything about this being a "masterful storyline" only that her problems are clear and always have been wen you can read the signs that are there.

The whole first season is about Josy even if she didn't have a lot of screen time she is the central LI.

Holy shit, that is the most deluded crap I think I've read in a long while

There's bias and then there's...I dont even know what to call this but it's evident you don't live in a world of reality if you genuinely believe this

 

[Darkwen]

People are too harsh on Maya with these “victim cards”, because she really got a lot, living in a natural hell.
Maya's main problem was this line of loan that dragged on, also considering the long development of the game and people just burned out from this "loan loan loan" all the time. DPC did a really tremendous job revealing Maya from her good sides in Ep.10 and showing how wonderful and strong person she is. And continued this in Ep.11. Look at the option if you failed to steal the papers. Maya doesn't blame anyone, she accepts it with dignity and thanks everyone for their support and help, and how good it is that she found such good friends. This is the second ascent for Maya and it was done wonderfully.


You do

Maya's lines from if don't get the papers your what I've read she like well we try to Josy there no way Josy should be ok with that. I don't think people are to harsh on Maya for the victim cards considering getting the papers the solution for the loan ends up being so simple. Maya did have some good moments this ep but Josy was 100% right when she it always about your problems. Now that at least when favoring one girl the throuple coming to end it a chance to see how strong each girl really is.

 

[Darkwen]

She's lonely because she feels isolated, and she's isolated because she's keeping so much of herself bottled up and held back but also because she's not able to see or be with her partner and says as much on the latter during the Ep 2 date. She feels alone because she feels that no-one is there for her which is why she clings so much to her infatuation for the MC because he's giving her what she craves; someone to be there for her.

And I never said anything about this being a "masterful storyline" only that her problems are clear and always have been wen you can read the signs that are there.



Holy shit, that is the most deluded crap I think I've read in a long while

There's bias and then there's...I dont even know what to call this but it's evident you don't live in a world of reality if you genuinely believe this

speaking of bias

 

[Darkwen]

Alady

Alady Alady

 

[MiltonPowers]

Alady Alady

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Maya's lines from if don't get the papers your what I've read she like well we try to Josy there no way Josy should be ok with that. I don't think people are to harsh on Maya for the victim cards considering getting the papers the solution for the loan ends up being so simple. Maya did have some good moments this ep but Josy was 100% right when she it always about your problems. Now that at least when favoring one girl the throuple coming to end it a chance to see how strong each girl really is.

Nobody knew it would be easy with paperwork. Patrick deceived her with this loan, and Maya knows nothing about loan agreements. In fact, this loan was a convenient scheme for Patrick with a corrupt odor.
So for me giving Maya all the shit for this loan is like blaming the girl for being raped because she had too short skirt.

 

[Darkwen]

Nobody knew it would be easy with paperwork. Patrick deceived her with this loan, and Maya knows nothing about loan agreements. In fact, this loan was a convenient scheme for Patrick with a corrupt odor.
So for me giving Maya all the shit for this loan is like blaming the girl for being raped because she had too short skirt.

A lot of people guess the loan was a bluff by Patrick and turn out to be the case. I don't blame Maya for not knowing how to handle it at her age but where I do blame her is going for a Jack and the beanstalk kind of answer right out of the gate and at a point when she had time to think.

 

[Eldiran]

Hey, I'm not sure if having a semi-loving relationship with Riona is going to be developed in episode 11. It so happened that in my first and main playthrough, Tremolo has a relationship with Sage, so I played episode 11 from that perspective. However, Riona stayed at home for the entire episode. The only interaction with her is to send a message around the end of the episode. I also have a second playthrough where I tried to build a relationship with Riona, but I'm stuck on episode 9 and so far I'm too lazy to read it all over again.

Understood, with my jill route and my second playthrough with maya/josy, i didn't fuck riona so i dunno if it changed something i episode 11. (i've completed both route to the end of the episode)
I didn't have the courage to start another route other than maybe a Sage for now one but it's a long way to go if i start from the begining.

When on Quinn's route MC learns what really happened to Riona and he sends her an extra text message telling her he knows it. That is the only difference.
MC doesn't talk to Riona at all in this episode.

Thanks for the information, i don't want to play a complete run just for that.

The fact that she was considering running away was a direct result of her putting herself aside for Maya. She had pinned so much hope on being there together with her at college and it was looking like it wasn't happening and this was after who knows how long where she been supporting Maya through this issue with Patrick and probably also being there for her because of Helen. So she was thinking of impulsively doing something to escape it all because it was becoming too much for her at the time and the MC was also something impulsive; an easy escape from it all by being with him. But when she reunited with Maya, much of that went away when she remembered how much Maya means to her and how much she wants to be there for her and help her.

But those thoughts of the MC being a convenient escape have always remained with her and that's what it's always been for her; an obsession because of the stress of the situation she was in. But now with that situation resolved, she's confused about her feelings for him and for Maya are because she doesn't know what's lost and what's genuine anymore and that's what we're (hopefully) going to see be explored next.

Nice way to summarize it. I just want to save the trouple but i don't have much hope with this episode 11. This maya and josy route was disappointing on more than once occasion. DPC is forcing us to choose and i don't like it, it doesn't make sense to me.

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For now that the big concern with this episode. (i've not problem on my main route with Jill, it was awesome, except maybe

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[Geralt From Rivia]

I do blame her is going for a Jack and the beanstalk kind of answer right out of the gate and at a point when she had time to think.

What specific episode did she behave this way? Let's try to figure it out.
I wathced Jack and the beanstalk too long ago, can sure what you mean

 

[Darkwen]

What specific episode did she behave this way? Let's try to figure it out.
I wathced Jack and the beanstalk too long ago, can sure what you mean

from the very start with ep1, Josy isn't even there at that point and won't be for at least another week. Sure that isn't a long time but it better then nothing yet she put all her faith in joining a sorority to save her to make it worse ep11 solve it in one night added there some other factors too