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Quid pro quo, Tommy is fucking around without telling Heather and now Heather did the same thing. In my opinion Heather will fucked anyone just to get back with Tommy, it just so happen that Nick became the sacrificed in this matter. Regarding Nick ratting everyone I knoe is not right but he got cornered and being ganged up by his so called brothers.
Nick is a fucking beta orbiter who snitches on anyone and everyone regardless of being cornered. He ratted on Tommy in the past about cheating, can't keep his mouth shut when telling MC about Tommy's past beef with Vinny, rats on Tommy AGAIN when letting slip about him buying weed from Vinny, actively wants people to share secrets with him, gossips about Cathy quitting because he had nothing better to say, is always the first to offer info, the dude just can't shut the fuck up. PLUS even if he wasn't behind the Catchy Cluck, he never shared about the laptop. Yeah it looks bad, but not even trying to talk to Rusty about it makes it worse. You can't pull the "so-called brothers" card when he dishes the dirt on everyone, that makes him the "so-called brother". If he wasn't scared of Tommy beating the shit out of him, I bet he would've tried to snake Heather along time ago.
 

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And before we argue with what's canon and what's not, it just depends on your playthrough in terms of canon.
You are, of course, free to use any word with any meaning you choose, but you should probably be aware that it's more common when talking about games with multiple paths/timelines to use "canon" to refer to things that always happen regardless of player choices, so if you use "canon" to refer to the events of a single playthrough, you're going to find yourself either having to explain your definition repeatedly, or getting "corrected" about what is and isn't true on every route.
 

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Since this discussion is still going on, I find it curious one's deviant score (the TC points) is completely unrelated to returning to Zoey or not. There's only one affiliated with her, and it's very minor, so what's up with that? A mechanic dedicated solely to cheating/unfaithful behavior, but the option to return is predicated solely on your zscore, a totally separate thing.

Maybe Zoey will be the only girl we can actually leave someone for, everyone else is relegated to mere affairs/flings?
MC's character arc in season 2 was him figuring out what exactly he was looking for in terms of relationships. The decision at the end of the season was whether he was ready for a relationship or not. If yes, then with who, if no then he continues to explore his options.

My understanding of his arc in season 3 is whether or not that was the right decision. If you're in a relationship you're faced with all these temptations to lead you astray, hence the deviant score. Which will ultimately have an effect on how long the relationship will last. If you're not in a relationship then you're presented with other opportunities for one to start to develop with characters outside of the MGs.

Zoey is a unique character as she's neither a MG or a SG, but her own category and is presented as an opportunity on both a relationship path and the other path.
 
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You are, of course, free to use any word with any meaning you choose, but you should probably be aware that it's more common when talking about games with multiple paths/timelines to use "canon" to refer to things that always happen regardless of player choices, so if you use "canon" to refer to the events of a single playthrough, you're going to find yourself either having to explain your definition repeatedly, or getting "corrected" about what is and isn't true on every route.
And those are called canon major decisions like the Diks mansion, preps party, and etc. Some people here use canon to include the decisions within those canon major decisions.

Let me give you an example, so one of the users mentioned about the mansion repair which was caused by the jocks, they included both the scenario and its outcome. I believe there is canon but not in a sense that it includes everything in it as canon.

Like the scenario that I said before, you can fail it and have rusty sell his car or pass and use rusty's car or sell the VIP pass to fix the mansion (No minigames.

I can go further into this with the LI, an example Spock's main playthrough canon is different than my main playthrough canon.

I am not arguing with the literal definition of canon, but I am arguing that there is no set canon in BAD aside from the major events that do not differ between players.
 

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And those are called canon major decisions like the Diks mansion, preps party, and etc. Some people here use canon to include the decisions within those canon major decisions.

Let me give you an example, so one of the users mentioned about the mansion repair which was caused by the jocks, they included both the scenario and its outcome. I believe there is canon but not in a sense that it includes everything in it as canon.

Like the scenario that I said before, you can fail it and have rusty sell his car or pass and use rusty's car or sell the VIP pass to fix the mansion (No minigames.

I can go further into this with the LI, an example Spock's main playthrough canon is different than my main playthrough canon.

I am not arguing with the literal definition of canon, but I am arguing that there is no set canon in BAD aside from the major events that do not differ between players.
Just say head canon then
 
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Laugh isn't that also the scene where the MC is giving her shit for being too messy eating her breakfast? :)
Yep. She has the table manners of a mountain goat, but to be fair if you pay attention you can pick up that she is the only character in the VN who is left-handed.

With that rage bait dropped, don't you think it is hilarious that right after Sage has a faux pas about getting fucked in the ass before her first date Madam Rose appears like Beetlejuice and tries to hide her face before anyone notices?

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Just say head canon then
Exactly and that is from the argument with dontsayhall user who was arguing about canon routes and canon paths that include the outcomes of those major decisions and delved into the head canon side

Like with Rusty selling his car, he was saying that this might be canon when in actuality its player dependent.
 

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And those are called canon major decisions like the Diks mansion, preps party, and etc. Some people here use canon to include the decisions within those canon major decisions.

Let me give you an example, so one of the users mentioned about the mansion repair which was caused by the jocks, they included both the scenario and its outcome. I believe there is canon but not in a sense that it includes everything in it as canon.

Like the scenario that I said before, you can fail it and have rusty sell his car or pass and use rusty's car or sell the VIP pass to fix the mansion (No minigames.

I can go further into this with the LI, an example Spock's main playthrough canon is different than my main playthrough canon.

I am not arguing with the literal definition of canon, but I am arguing that there is no set canon in BAD aside from the major events that do not differ between players.
Head canon is a good word.

When people here refer to Canon they mean what everyone experiences no matter what.

For example, MC chucking a tantrum and leaving MJ, that's canon, (staying with Sage is not canon). Jade getting divorced is canon (how much money she gets is not). Selling Rusty's car is not canon.
 
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Exactly and that is from the argument with dontsayhall user who was arguing about canon routes and canon paths that include the outcomes of those major decisions and delved into the head canon side

Like with Rusty selling his car, he was saying that this might be canon when in actuality its player dependent.
I get what you're trying to say, like "sub-canon" or whatever, but it muddies things. Canon is immutable, like staying with Maya or joining the DIKs. Or idk, call it alternate timelines or whatever (choosing Derek/Bella/Sage and what is canon to those paths)
 
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Head canon is a good word.

When people here refer to Canon they mean what everyone experiences no matter what.

For example, MC chucking a tantrum and leaving MJ, that's canon, (staying with Sage is not canon). Jill asking you on a picnic is canon (but whether you go is not). Jade getting divorced is canon (how much money she gets is not). Selling Rusty's car is not canon.
She won't show up if she doesn't like you though :unsure:
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Head canon is a good word.

When people here refer to Canon they mean what everyone experiences no matter what.

For example, MC chucking a tantrum and leaving MJ, that's canon, (staying with Sage is not canon). Jill asking you on a picnic is canon (but whether you go is not). Jade getting divorced is canon (how much money she gets is not). Selling Rusty's car is not canon.

Exactly and in the message chain, I was telling both of the users that the only canon is appliable such as MC leaves (that is one), Jocks destroying mansion, and other choices that were not player dependant but there were including selling sad jester's car as canon.


I get what you're trying to say, like "sub-canon" or whatever, but it muddies things. Canon is immutable, like staying with Maya or joining the DIKs. Or idk, call it alternate timelines or whatever (choosing Derek/Bella/Sage and what is canon to those paths)
I mean sub-canon works in a sense
Right, I would rather just call them alternate timelines or parallel universes lol
 
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Nick is a fucking beta orbiter who snitches on anyone and everyone regardless of being cornered. He ratted on Tommy in the past about cheating, can't keep his mouth shut when telling MC about Tommy's past beef with Vinny, rats on Tommy AGAIN when letting slip about him buying weed from Vinny, actively wants people to share secrets with him, gossips about Cathy quitting because he had nothing better to say, is always the first to offer info, the dude just can't shut the fuck up. PLUS even if he wasn't behind the Catchy Cluck, he never shared about the laptop. Yeah it looks bad, but not even trying to talk to Rusty about it makes it worse. You can't pull the "so-called brothers" card when he dishes the dirt on everyone, that makes him the "so-called brother". If he wasn't scared of Tommy beating the shit out of him, I bet he would've tried to snake Heather along time ago.
I do agree with you in most of your statement especially in what happen to Cathy. He could have talk to Rusty about the laptop. But I don't agree with your sentiment about Heather. He did not tey to steal her because his afraid of Tommy but because he knows Heather and Tommy had been together for so long and she loves Tommy so Nick did not made a move.

Next about the diks sharing secrets to Nick. I know Nick spill the beans about them and he used it to tear the group. But in the first place why the fuck did they share this secret to him in the first place. They could've have talk this one to others. I think it's also there fault sharing sensitive topics to Nick instead of keeping there mouth shut.

Lastly I still stand on my previous post about Tommy "quid pro quo". He had it coming and it just so happen that Nick become the sacrificial lamb in Heather's revenge. She is the main reason things went south in the first place, sleeping with Nick a fellow dik
 
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