VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[grarg]

Not "we", you. This is your personal perception of her personality.

I'm not talking about her personality at all.
She may be an incredibly good person, as you describe, but it all makes no sense when she seems superfluous in this story where we already have several LIs teachers with their roles in the story. She has no role in the game's story. It's more of an appeal to fetishes - a very curvy blonde woman + pregnancy kink as suggested above.

One thing, I'll say about the date, I don't like the part with the card game, it feels like an interrogation. I prefer casual talk with people.

Personality? She's obviously more mature and healthier than the other teachers, including Bella, by being on a dating site, and actively "breaking up" with the MC for professional reasons. (Compare: Cathy.)

What is the game's "story", exactly? What makes no sense? It seems DPC just does random things every episode, including an Interlude. It's MC slice of life in a frat, with dangling threads that are (probably if not already) going to be forgotten. All the girls make no sense, including the MG's. Look at Maya: is her story done? Seems so; I have no idea. And Josy? Buh? Bella's just there to help out the MC. Sage is...graduating? Jill is going to help people with drug issues? How does this all connect?

And Zoey's -- the most superflous of all -- was already done. But now there's going to be more.

Nora is similar to Sage in:
-Sage: the MC teaches his hobbies (fighting & music.)
-Nora: the MC shares their workout routine (similar to Bella), and it appears Nora is teaching the MC's favorite subject at school (assuming he's going to study chem/science in the future. But this story is, to my understanding, only 1st year.)

Does Bella have a role in the game's "story"? Sure, she pops up here and there. But so? She's just the broken, brunette Nora. Insert fetish choice.

DPC said that people are free to choose whatever romance they like, and the story and MGs will keep on going. Maybe Nora's will go nowhere, as certainly will several Other's. But all the MGs have their own thing going, and the MC (and us) are along for that non-romance ride. So all romance choices are superfluous.

 

[grarg]

You just answered your question perfectly, without the need to write further. You, the player, do this by your choice. End of story. Your further subjective opinion on how you evaluate their past relationships and their influence, how “deep” it is, has no bearing on the issue, it is demagogy.

Someone's deflecting, and it ain't me.

Continue to not evaluate the story's content at your leisure. I certainly won't be wasting my time with you anymore.

I love playing this game, having fun, seeing the consequences of my decisions and causing chaos. I ruined the M/J path by going back to Zoey just to cuck shrimp for fun again. (again, I'm the path destroyer, not her)

I see you like wasting time and hurting "people."

You have issues. Hurting myself by playing the game with imaginary characters? By exploring it?
Only thing I can answer on this:
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Welcome to my ignore list Mr. Passive-Aggressive.

Initiate or not, she has no control here. If it were forced based on the past dynamics of MC/Zoey during Episodes 9-11, say if Zoey's high score led to an auto-selection to return to her - then yes. But we don't have that.

Yes, we could have NEVER have chosen any romance partners or options before. But the game sets up in nearly every other scene the option for intimacy or gaining + points with a character. It's been doing this for years, as design, as how Renpy games are setup.

Sure, blame the player.

Zoey comes by and destroys all that, also by design.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Personality? She's obviously more mature and healthier than the other teachers, including Bella, by being on a dating site, and actively "breaking up" with the MC for professional reasons. (Compare: Cathy.)

What is the game's "story", exactly? What makes no sense? It seems DPC just does random things every episode, including an Interlude. It's MC slice of life in a frat, with dangling threads that are (probably if not already) going to be forgotten. All the girls make no sense, including the MG's. Look at Maya: is her story done? Seems so; I have no idea. And Josy? Buh? Bella's just there to help out the MC. Sage is...graduating? Jill is going to help people with drug issues? How does this all connect?

And Zoey's -- the most superflous of all -- was already done. But now there's going to be more.

Nora is similar to Sage in:
-Sage: the MC teaches his hobbies (fighting & music.)
-Nora: the MC shares their workout routine (similar to Bella), and it appears Nora is teaching the MC's favorite subject at school (assuming he's going to study chem/science in the future. But this story is, to my understanding, only 1st year.)

Does Bella have a role in the game's "story"? Sure, she pops up here and there. But so? She's just the broken, brunette Nora. Insert fetish choice.

DPC said that people are free to choose whatever romance they like, and the story and MGs will keep on going. Maybe Nora's will go nowhere, as certainly will several Other's. But all the MGs have their own thing going, and the MC (and us) are along for that non-romance ride. So all romance choices are superfluous.

A lot of simping energy without objectivity here.
Bella is a classic teacher/student path with secrets, guilt, age gap issues in relationships.
Zoey is the conflict of an ex-girlfriend who came back into your life and uncertainty in feelings.
Sage is a freshmen dream to date a temperamental leader girl. This is a journey of overcoming anger, gaining self-control and finding harmony in relationships.
Jill is the role of a good girl, a princess from the tower who learns about the world by dating MC.
M/J is a path about polyamorous relationships and their problems.
Quinn is playing with fire with a bad girl and a boy's dream "I can fix her"

Every path has a role. Nora doesn't have one.

Someone's deflecting, and it ain't me.

Continue to not evaluate the story's content at your leisure. I certainly won't be wasting my time with you anymore.


I see you like wasting time and hurting "people."


Welcome to my ignore list Mr. Passive-Aggressive.

1. Came up with a non-existent problem.
2. Explained to him that he was wrong
3. Got offended

Yes, we could have NEVER have chosen any romance partners or options before. But the game sets up in nearly every other scene the option for intimacy or gaining + points with a character. It's been doing this for years, as design, as how Renpy games are setup.

Sure, blame the player.

Zoey comes by and destroys all that, also by design.

Yes, the player is to blame, and those who played the previous game from DPC know that he likes to play the player. So yes, I blame the player. Don't choose the fucked up desicions if you are get angry because of this

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[Vill3m]

what is the actual story of the game itself?

Besides being another classical porn game, it's a slice-of-life story talking about all kinds of families and how they intersect with each other: broken and dysfunctional families, biological and adopted families, found families etc. The MC, main girls, many side chicks and other characters have their own stories of their families. Then there's fraternities, sororities and new friend groups that act as found families. All of them have their own beautiful and ugly sides we get to learn or experience.

 

[PeaNut2627]

Zoey should have been introduced earlier, much like how we only have random screens of Tara and others in S1 & S2, but they only become Others much later, due to Milked Bloat.

Nora is the Superior Bella.

Zoey is the Destroyer, unfortunately, because apparently romance paths mean nothing to DPC when ex-girlfriends figure out what they want, and "BAD" is to be taken literally and whimsically to all other girls.

I'm sure the MG's will all forgive the MC and their "slice of life/main plot" stories will go along just fine without any variation or discrepancies as a result of shattering their hearts...

I'd have loved Zoey to be introduced earlier but we have her now.

This thing about her being a destroyer is silly, it's completely up to the player if they want to be friendly with her and move onto her path at the end of ep11. Non of it is forced so I don't get your point. You can make her a 'destroyer' but that's your own choice, still more interesting then Nora XD.

 

[Chillout1984]

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Besides being another classical porn game, it's a slice-of-life story talking about all kinds of families and how they intersect with each other: broken and dysfunctional families, biological and adopted families, found families etc. The MC, main girls, many side chicks and other characters have their own stories of their families. Then there's fraternities, sororities and new friend groups that act as found families. All of them have their own beautiful and ugly sides we get to learn or experience.

True, especially the found families part. Most of the scenes where the DIKs work together as well as the scene at Bella's house if you succeed in stealing the papers are good examples of this.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

True, especially the found families part. Most of the scenes where the DIKs work together as well as the scene at Bella's house if you succeed in stealing the papers are good examples of this.

I hate every minigame except the ones where the rest of the DIKs are involved

 

[Chillout1984]

I hate every minigame except the ones where the rest of the DIKs are involved

Those are the ones I hate the most except for English tests... Mansion repair and party planner...

 

[grarg]

I'd have loved Zoey to be introduced earlier but we have her now.

This thing about her being a destroyer is silly, it's completely up to the player if they want to be friendly with her and move onto her path at the end of ep11. Non of it is forced so I don't get your point. You can make her a 'destroyer' but that's your own choice, still more interesting then Nora XD.

She literally destroys entire relationships. Use whatever verb you like.

If all I'm going to hear is "it's your choice" arguments, I'll just stop reading this nonsense.

What should have happened:
1. Introduced much earlier.
2. If not, then on a non-Others Crossroads choice, she shouldn't have be allowed to break up an existing relationship. Meaning, if you chose someone specifically at Crossroads, you can't choose Zoey.

Why is 2 important? Because DPC specifically forced a choice on the player in Crossroads on what to do with relationships, including Others. You can blow this all away by simply being nice to her, and accepting her again.

Then again, this is called "Being a DIK". I thought that means "being in the DIK frat"; not literally a dick or an idiot who lies to women he's apparently serious about.

 

[Moni23]

. If not, then on a non-Others Crossroads choice, she shouldn't have be allowed to break up an existing relationship. Meaning, if you chose someone specifically at Crossroads, you can't choose Zoey.

It seems like you want the decision in episode 8 to be final (unless the player chooses "others"), and the game becomes a linear narrative with a path to a certain ending. I don't think that would be interesting. Not giving the player the option to be a jerk diminishes the value of "correct" playthroughs.

 

[DIKHammer]

BELLA: You misunderstood me. I'm going to get railed by the movers while YOU can watch.

Pretty sure the movers are looking at her Ass, I can't blame them either

 

[Chillout1984]

Pretty sure the movers are looking at her Ass, I can't blame them either

They're stupid for it, but they're not. The left mover is looking at James and the right mover seems to look at the left mover's dick xD

 

[Zirenaz]

Then again, this is called "Being a DIK". I thought that means "being in the DIK frat"; not literally a dick or an idiot who lies to women he's apparently serious about.

Did it say anywhere that it could not be both? Of course, all the lieing you do is by your choice.

And if you are so annoyed about the choices in this game, by all means, make your own game, and let us see you do it better.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

 

[Sef_Q 117]

i just found out some minor choices from Season 1 & 2 have major impact in Season 3, Will the outcome change depend my choice or it will be same no mater what?
for example: if i decide not to show DIKs Sex clip of JADE there will be no Divorce at Season 3?

 

[Derek in a Bush]

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[Chillout1984]

i just found out some minor choices from Season 1 & 2 have major impact in Season 3, Will the outcome change depend my choice or it will be same no mater what?
for example: if i decide not to show DIKs Sex clip of JADE there will be no Divorce at Season 3?

The divorce will still happen, but it has impact on what consequences it will have for Jade and MC. For example, if you're on the Others route and still dating Jade, you can have sex with her in ep 11 if you don't show the clip, but you will not have sex (and quite certainly end the route with her) if you did show the clip.

 

[JeSinclair]

I love giving Zoey the name - Zoey the Destroyer. Very melodramatic as these VN's tend to be(at least the good ones.)
It should be looked at as a blessing that these types of characters/traits amass so much discussion from the fan base during our player 'interludes' between updates.

For me, I wish Zoey was introduced earlier as an active member of the story, but if you play enough of these VN's you see a very similar pattern among story lines of childhood friends/ex-girlfriends who popup later in the story.
I view it as serving the masses who remember someone from their own past who they wish things would have worked out differently with.

I think that's the mindset DPC went with in introducing Zoey. Along the lines of 'the one who got away.'
However, part of the problem is that very little of the fan base can realistically look at Zoey that way for one reason or another. (I know I can't.)

As for all the Nora stuff... well I avoid her at all cost outside of the classroom. Not my cup of tea. But to each their own.

 

[PeaNut2627]

She literally destroys entire relationships. Use whatever verb you like.

If all I'm going to hear is "it's your choice" arguments, I'll just stop reading this nonsense.

What should have happened:
1. Introduced much earlier.
2. If not, then on a non-Others Crossroads choice, she shouldn't have be allowed to break up an existing relationship. Meaning, if you chose someone specifically at Crossroads, you can't choose Zoey.

Why is 2 important? Because DPC specifically forced a choice on the player in Crossroads on what to do with relationships, including Others. You can blow this all away by simply being nice to her, and accepting her again.

Then again, this is called "Being a DIK". I thought that means "being in the DIK frat"; not literally a dick or an idiot who lies to women he's apparently serious about.

I agree with point 1.

Why can't she be the cause of ending a current relationship? It happens irl, only makes sense for there to be that option somewhere in the game too.

"Oh no, a choice is forced on me in a game all about choices." Are you fr.

You can blow it all away by accepting her. Yeah, it's your choice to do that, you don't have too. What are you even complaining about rn XD.

 

[El_Magnifico]

She literally destroys entire relationships. Use whatever verb you like.

If all I'm going to hear is "it's your choice" arguments, I'll just stop reading this nonsense.

But this is your choice, I don't understand why you're pretending it isn't.

You know who is a real relationship destroyer ? Jade. With Zoey, at least you knew what you were doing and what would be the potential consequence. We're aware of her real feelings since the Interlude and we know what she was hoping for since the very start of the third season. There was no trap. You could be an ass to her which would lead to an automatic rejection in the latest episode. Even whe she confronts you at the end of the panties party you can still reject her. She can only destroy the entire relationship if you allowed her to do so. There was no secret agenda, we all knew she wanted a second chance with the main character.

But with Jade, the first time we played we couldn't possibly know she would be Sage's mom and we couldn't possibily know that just having a handjob in episode 3 would haunt the main character for the rest of the game and prevent you to get the I Love You scene. That's completely unfair and rubbish. A single fucking handjob in episode 3 is about to destroy 3 seasons of relationship with Sage. When we all started playing for the first time who the fuck could have expected that having a handjob with one of the teacher milf would ruin your entire relationship with one of the love interest two seasons later ? No one.

We only comprehend the implication of having a handjob with the cougar after being completely screwed. Unlike Zoey, there's nothing you can do, no choice you can pick except for starting a new playthrough