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Bella specifically thinks that a man hasn't touched her in three years (or rather, gotten her all hot and bothered), so I imagine the thing with Jill happened more recently than that, after James left. But I'm curious about there being a second event that made James leave, if not the death of their child alone.
That could definitely make sense, but then what was Bella thinking she needed James's forgiveness for?
The dialog from the script:

isa "(Married women don't fool around with young students.)"
isa "(...)"
isa "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"
isa "(But that...that was different!)"
isa "(It doesn't matter... I've stopped it.)"
isa "(Please, James... Forgive me.)"
isa "(Please, just come home again...)"
isa "(It's been long enough now.)"

What Bella and Jill did was different "(But that...that was different!)" from her and the MC because she and Jill were just taking comfort from each other.
But she is finding herself sexually and romantically attracted to the MC.

Interesting discussion though, getting other viewpoints with angles I haven't thought of.
 
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That could definitely make sense, but then what was Bella thinking she needed James's forgiveness for?
The dialog from the script:

isa "(Married women don't fool around with young students.)"
isa "(...)"
isa "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"
isa "(But that...that was different!)"
isa "(It doesn't matter... I've stopped it.)"
isa "(Please, James... Forgive me.)"
isa "(Please, just come home again...)"
isa "(It's been long enough now.)"

What Bella and Jill did was different "(But that...that was different!)" from her and the MC because she and Jill were just taking comfort from each other.
But she is finding herself sexually and romantically attracted to the MC.

Interesting discussion though, getting other viewpoints with angles I haven't thought of.
Asking forgiveness for what's going on with MC is what I imagine is what it's supposed to look like when playing Episode 3, but it could be about whatever happened that made James leave. Or, what she thinks might be keeping him away, assuming he has the ability to return.
 
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That could definitely make sense, but then what was Bella thinking she needed James's forgiveness for?
The dialog from the script:

isa "(Married women don't fool around with young students.)"
isa "(...)"
isa "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"
isa "(But that...that was different!)"
isa "(It doesn't matter... I've stopped it.)"
isa "(Please, James... Forgive me.)"
isa "(Please, just come home again...)"
isa "(It's been long enough now.)"

What Bella and Jill did was different "(But that...that was different!)" from her and the MC because she and Jill were just taking comfort from each other.
But she is finding herself sexually and romantically attracted to the MC.

Interesting discussion though, getting other viewpoints with angles I haven't thought of.
I wonder if it could be the fault of one Mr. Stephen Burke?

We know from his repeated mentions that Stephen is sexually interested in Bella; whether or not he's actually sealed the deal with her is left ambiguous, but he does desire her. We also know that he is not above blackmailing people, and - depending on your interpretation of Maya's scholarship and the Mona incident - more than willing to coerce women into sex.

Could it be that the "different" situation that pushed Bella to potentially cheat on James was her being blackmailed into it by Stephen? If he had some form of dirt on Jade that wouldn't hold water in divorce court but would damage her reputation and used it to get his way with Bella, that could easily explain her breaking faith with her husband and feeling guilty about it while still considering it different from normal cheating.
 

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Asking forgiveness for what's going on with MC is what I imagine is what it's supposed to look like when playing Episode 3, but it could be about whatever happened that made James leave. Or, what she thinks might be keeping him away, assuming he has the ability to return.
That would make sense - this is before she kind of decides to act on her attraction to the MC in the pool scene.
So she's feeling guilty for making out with the MC in the library and asking forgiveness for that.
 

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She wouldn't have cordial conversations with him if it was the case. She shouldn't even been OK working in a place where someone blackmailed her.
Agreed, I think there is a roughly 0% chance that Bella ever did anything with Stephen. There's no way DPC would have Bella blackmailed into sex like that.
In Jade and Stephen's argument we see that Stephen approached Bella to "spice up" their sex life but was shot down.
This was done without Jade's knowledge so Jade ridicules him for the attempt pointing out that Bella was already in love and has a wedding ring.

sb "We agreed that we should try to spice things up, didn't we?"
ja "Yes! With each other! Not on our own!"
sb "Well, we tried that already!"
sb "Most recently with Isabella!"
sb "She was clearly already in love!"
ja "That's usually the case when there's a {b}fucking{/b} wedding ring on a finger!"
ja "Oh! And again with Isabella!"
 
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Agreed, I think there is a roughly 0% chance that Bella ever did anything with Stephen. There's no way DPC would have Bella blackmailed into sex like that.
In Jade and Stephen's argument we see that Stephen approached Bella to "spice up" their sex life but was shot down.
This was done without Jade's knowledge so Jade ridicules him for the attempt pointing out that Bella was already in love and has a wedding ring.

sb "We agreed that we should try to spice things up, didn't we?"
ja "Yes! With each other! Not on our own!"
sb "Well, we tried that already!"
sb "Most recently with Isabella!"
sb "She was clearly already in love!"
ja "That's usually the case when there's a {b}fucking{/b} wedding ring on a finger!"
ja "Oh! And again with Isabella!"
That's true, except it was with Jade. They were planning a threesome.

I don't understand why you're arguing about Bella and Steven if everything was explained in the game. They didn't have anything going on; they thought she still loved her husband, but in fact, she'd already fallen in love with MC.
Steven was with Kate.
Bella just had a kiss with Jill. it's only important to show Jill's bisexuality. DPC has some kind of fetish for having relationships with two girls at once.
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That's true, except it was with Jade. They were planning a threesome.

I don't understand why you're arguing about Bella and Steven if everything was explained in the game. They didn't have anything going on; they thought she still loved her husband, but in fact, she'd already fallen in love with MC.
Steven was with Kate.
Bella just had a kiss with Jill. it's only important to show Jill's bisexuality. DPC has some kind of fetish for having relationships with two girls at once.
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I think we are on the same page.
I was arguing that no-way would Bella have done anything with Stephen or Stephen/Jade.
The scene where they invited her over for dinner was in episode 1, so well before she got emotionally involved with the MC.
So I suspect she went over for a normal friend/work-associate dinner and then Stephen or Stephen/Jade together brought up the threesome thing and Bella got the hell out of there.. :)

I also said I don't think Bella/Jill actually had sex, but it wasn't just a single kiss.
Bella thinks to herself that it was: "(They aren't intimate with friends either...)"
So in her mind whatever she and Jill did it was being "intimate".
The dialog at the cabin pretty much shows exactly what I outlined previously.
Jill was at Bella's and they got tipsy and went to bed.
They ended up hugging and kissing ("a few very long kisses and hugs").
The kissing had nothing to do with sexual attration - they were getting comfort from each other in their shared pain and grief.
Though I am still hopeful that there can be a Jill and Bella throuple in the future.. :)

ji "One time, Bella and I were hanging out at her place, and we had some wine and went to bed."

ji "It's hard to describe it. We had such a great night together, with deep and meaningful talks..."
ji "We got tipsy, and when we got into bed, we hugged for a while."
ji "And then, before I knew what I was doing, we kissed."
bia "No way you did that. How did you do it?"
ji "I don't know. It was...a few very long kisses and hugs."
ji "It felt nice in a weird way. But we stopped because we realized it was wrong."
bia "So, you have a history with her?"
ji "It wasn't about attraction. It was about comfort."
ji "She needed it, and I think I needed it, too. And we got it in the wrong way from each other."
 

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That's true, except it was with Jade. They were planning a threesome.

I don't understand why you're arguing about Bella and Steven if everything was explained in the game. They didn't have anything going on; they thought she still loved her husband, but in fact, she'd already fallen in love with MC.
Steven was with Kate.
Bella just had a kiss with Jill. it's only important to show Jill's bisexuality. DPC has some kind of fetish for having relationships with two girls at once.
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She's nowhere near in love with MC at that point. Besides the fact that Jade says that line regardless, things were still on the more carnal side with Bella and MC in Season 1. Episode 6 is when you officially jump on her path, and it's definitely when things start to turn.

And I agree with the others, Stephen has done nothing with Bella, and is definitely not blackmailing her.
 

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She's nowhere near in love with MC at that point. Besides the fact that Jade says that line regardless, things were still on the more carnal side with Bella and MC in Season 1. Episode 6 is when you officially jump on her path, and it's definitely when things start to turn.

And I agree with the others, Stephen has done nothing with Bella, and is definitely not blackmailing her.
The dinner with Stephen/Jade was in episode 1, she and MC weren't even doing anything then - much less developing feelings.
So I agree with you on all points.. :)
 
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With the shocked look on Maya's and the MC's faces when the door was opened at the end of the episode it can't be just a normal looking bedroom.
Whatever they saw was totally unexpected.
(I get narratively why DPC had the door be unlocked, it led to the episode dramatic finish. But it's pretty unlikely that Bella kept the door locked previously but the night she has 6 guests over for dinner she forgets to lock it.)

I think by far the best theory is the miscarriage and nursery. Maya and the MC saw a crib and nursery items.
It's possible that it wasn't a miscarriage, maybe the child was born but died as an infant. SIDS or something.
The dead child was a girl as well.
Remember when the MC joined Jill and Bella in the park when they were doing yoga early in the game?
After Jill left with Tybalt the MC was arguing with Bella because Bella was being very protective of Jill.
The MC said "she's not your daughter" and then Bella had this brief but sad look on her face, just a second or so.

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pretty sure (99%) that you're joking but at least it's an interesting theory at least and one I haven't heard before but I thought Jamie said no to Tommy
 
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