VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Blue Milk]

You're misunderstanding something. The only optional decisions are whether the MC wants to participate in the tournament and/or play guitar with Jill at the party.

The tournament and the Christmas party will take place regardless of whether the MC actively participates or not. However, this doesn't prevent DPC from allowing the MC to passively attend both events. I don't know if Dwayne or Chen mentioned this, so the MC can still watch the tournament.

The MC will be present at both events, whether actively participating or passively.

The fact that DPC made it a choice, and a difficult one at that for him in his internal dialogue, means you absolutely are not going to be able to attend both. They will both be happening simultaneously and it's clearly designed to be an impactful choice. If you are able to be at both in any capacity then it ruins that.

There's also the fact that the faculty party, for one, is only open to him because he helped Jill and that's why he's being asked to perform. If you turn it down or never got the invite then he won't be allowed in, at least not universally, because it's a private function. Maybe if you're on the Jill, Sage, or Bella paths he'll be there as a guest, but if you chose the fighting tournament he'll be there all day as he said. Dwyane does say he can come and watch if you turn him down, but then if you get the invite to the recital and you accept it then you'll be doing that instead.

Basically, there's probably several different ways this can go, but universally you won't be able to be at both.

1. Chose fight tournament, you'll be there
2. Chose faculty recital, you'll be there
3. Chose neither and aren't on Jill, Bella, or Sage path, you go watch the tournament
4. Chose neither and are on Jill, Bella, or Sage path, you go to the faculty recital as their invited guest

So because there are a few ways it can go, then there is no "canon" version of him being able to be at both because "canon" is universal and unavoidable.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

You'd be hard-pressed to reach 87 characters without having the Jocks, Nerds, Preps, feminists, and even faculty there too. The DIKs, HOTs, and dorm girls and guys, named and otherwise, don't get anywhere close. So either it's going to be all those people or DPC creates a ridiculous amount of nobody background characters to fill the party.

Also, 87 people are not coming to a faculty-only party. Even with there being "special guests", it's still not going to be that.

Yes that's my point. The idea that DPC would just bloat up the event to that point with random new models with no lines or interactions is simply ludicrous. He has put such characters in the background of his parties but not in those numbers. And those models are students. In order to bloat the faculty party to that point DPC would have to create new teachers and new staff models who will never serve any other purpose in the story. And why? Apparently just to bloat up the party. No sense whatsoever.

But if it's the other way around and he wants to put all the characters he already has into the same party then there is an actual point. The fact that putting all the characters in the same place will move a lot of the plots along and tie them together is an excellent reason to do that. It serves the story in more than one way.

So all that is left is the excuse. Why are all these characters partying together? Because Sage organised it as an effort to build peace. If HOTs party with the DIKs, the alphas will cause trouble. If they party with alphas, the DIKs will cause trouble although they will probably be more inventive and subtle about it. Partying with neither would just suck and would probably lead to a full fight because "it's the other's fault that they can't party with the HOTs". So the HOTs have to party with both. But if it's just them the alphas and the DIKs are going to end up fighting so there has to be a lot of other people there too simply to keep the hotheads from each other's hair.

But big parties cost money so Sage has to get the preps involved. Their frat isn't opposed to the idea but to keep Tybalt in line Sage will have to go to their parents. And thus the party ends up having teacher chaperones. Might as well ask some parents to volunteer for it too.

So we have our big party and Magnar will have an opportunity to cause trouble for all the other frats. And thus drama happens.

 

[jd8097619]

Dr PinkCake certainly has a hard task ahead of him.

A question for the regular members of this thread: when do you honestly think the dev will release episode 12?
Before the end of this year or before a year has passed since the last update?

Given typical release date inflation, top end would be June 2026. However progress has been relatively quick and lacking notable delays so far and at least 50% of planned items have already been finished within 6-7 months, so if progress is maintained it could be as early as April.

 

[jd8097619]

So all that is left is the excuse. Why are all these characters partying together?

Magnar's holding his victory orgy.

 

[Henry_from_Bohemia]

Cosmetic poll ($15): Maya


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I understand that it's New Year's Eve and all that, but Maya looks pretty revealing in any of these outfits. This is unusual for the introverted Maya, who prefers more modest clothing.
Maya is like, “Oh, it's a New Year's Eve party, why don't I wear a dress that shows off my boobs so all the guys will stare at me, because that's what MC likes so much.”

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I understand that it's New Year's Eve and all that, but Maya looks pretty revealing in any of these outfits. This is unusual for the introverted Maya, who prefers more modest clothing.
Maya is like, “Oh, it's a New Year's Eve party, why don't I wear a dress that shows off my boobs so all the guys will stare at me, because that's what MC likes so much.”

She already wore very revealing outfits, like top and mini-skirt when she met MC at first, and the dress at the Ep.6 end, which Patrick didn't like. Now she has no limits and takes it one step further... And then there's the logic of the porn game.

 

[maxthruster]

Yeah, I'm pretty confident that we're going to get a chance to say "I love you" to whoever we didn't in Ep11. The current imbalance just seems like forced drama for the sake of keeping drama going in this branch. And this is added to the drama of MC being incompetent in how he explains his relationship to his dad. He never tells his dad that Maya and Josy were in a relationship before getting into a relationship with him. They wanted to be together with each other before he ever got involved.

The main reason for my confidence in this being a temporary bit of forced drama is that the official walkthrough says that the game will notice and remember if the MC has tried to be fairly even with spending time with Maya and Josy. I think that if you do, then the poly relationship will endure (assuming you tell both of them that you love them when given a chance). That being said, I wouldn't have much trust in DPC on this if it weren't for that note. So who knows?

To be fair, not trusting DPC with throuple relationships is a smart move.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Given typical release date inflation, top end would be June 2026. However progress has been relatively quick and lacking notable delays so far and at least 50% of planned items have already been finished within 6-7 months, so if progress is maintained it could be as early as April.

Ep 11 released early March and it's November now. That's 8 months. 9 if you allow for DPC starting the work on ep 12 while ep 11 was still in testing. So another 8 or 9 months to finish if we truly are at 50% of ALL the work. And a bit of testing before the actual release. So 9 or 10 months from now. August or September.

 

[dalli_x]

The fact that DPC made it a choice, and a difficult one at that for him in his internal dialogue, means you absolutely are not going to be able to attend both. They will both be happening simultaneously and it's clearly designed to be an impactful choice. If you are able to be at both in any capacity then it ruins that.

There's also the fact that the faculty party, for one, is only open to him because he helped Jill and that's why he's being asked to perform. If you turn it down or never got the invite then he won't be allowed in, at least not universally, because it's a private function. Maybe if you're on the Jill, Sage, or Bella paths he'll be there as a guest, but if you chose the fighting tournament he'll be there all day as he said. Dwyane does say he can come and watch if you turn him down, but then if you get the invite to the recital and you accept it then you'll be doing that instead.

Basically, there's probably several different ways this can go, but universally you won't be able to be at both.

1. Chose fight tournament, you'll be there
2. Chose faculty recital, you'll be there
3. Chose neither and aren't on Jill, Bella, or Sage path, you go watch the tournament
4. Chose neither and are on Jill, Bella, or Sage path, you go to the faculty recital as their invited guest

So because there are a few ways it can go, then there is no "canon" version of him being able to be at both because "canon" is universal and unavoidable.

Are they happening simultaneously? Open-world event. What if the MC can choose where to go? Tournament and/or party? My MC can also choose to participate in both. To do this, he has to walk across campus. Open-world.

So he can't go to the faculty party if he didn't help Jill? But you're forgetting again that he needs to be friends with Sage and Jill at least. One of them could take the MC to the party. The only decision concerns whether the MC can play guitar at the party or not.

You'll see, so that Jill, Sage, Isabella, Josy, Maya, and the MC will be at this college Christmas party.

Damn, I really have to participate in both. The MC will get a black eye at the tournament, and Maya will cover it up with makeup because he still has to make music with Jill.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

I understand that it's New Year's Eve and all that, but Maya looks pretty revealing in any of these outfits. This is unusual for the introverted Maya, who prefers more modest clothing.
Maya is like, “Oh, it's a New Year's Eve party, why don't I wear a dress that shows off my boobs so all the guys will stare at me, because that's what MC likes so much.”

I get what you are saying about her personality, but you clearly haven't paid attention to what she has been wearing. To remind yourself just start up season 1-2. You'll only need to see the warning before you even get to the menu to see what Maya typically wears.

 

[ianzaracod]

Cosmetic poll ($15): Maya


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man she is so hot as fuck

 

[maxthruster]

Are they happening simultaneously? Open-world event. What if the MC can choose where to go? Tournament and/or party? My MC can also choose to participate in both. To do this, he has to walk across campus. Open-world.

When Tremolo is invited to the tournament he's told that if he participates he should expect to be there all day. So participating both seems out of the question, since they're on the same day. If spectating is an option then maybe he can do both, but tbh I don't see what point there would be in spectating the fight tournament. There's only a couple people we actually know who stand a chance and the story isn't benefitted in any way by seeing them win - the most notable possible outcome would be Caleb absolutely crushing it and taunting Tremolo about being a pussy for sitting out.

Attending the faculty party as a guest rather than a performer does make more sense, so I expect that to be the "canon" event you attend even if you turn both down. No matter your relationship with Jill at that point she might still invite you as a friend, or some other reason may crop up. It's just where I expect the highest concentration of important characters between the two. Entirely likely that, if you reject both, there'll be a third thing to do. Maybe a trip to the Pink Rose, who knows.

 

[jd8097619]

Ep 11 released early March and it's November now. That's 8 months. 9 if you allow for DPC starting the work on ep 12 while ep 11 was still in testing. So another 8 or 9 months to finish if we truly are at 50% of ALL the work. And a bit of testing before the actual release. So 9 or 10 months from now. August or September.

Ep11 was released and then patched in mid March. Giving a couple of weeks for washup/non-creating prep we can assume actual development didn't start into April (first preview was end of May). So it's been roughly 6 months of core "development".

So another six months would be April assuming all goes well. Even with some slippage August/September feels extremely pessimistic.

 

[dalli_x]

When Tremolo is invited to the tournament he's told that if he participates he should expect to be there all day. So participating both seems out of the question, since they're on the same day. If spectating is an option then maybe he can do both, but tbh I don't see what point there would be in spectating the fight tournament. There's only a couple people we actually know who stand a chance and the story isn't benefitted in any way by seeing them win - the most notable possible outcome would be Caleb absolutely crushing it and taunting Tremolo about being a pussy for sitting out.

Attending the faculty party as a guest rather than a performer does make more sense, so I expect that to be the "canon" event you attend even if you turn both down. No matter your relationship with Jill at that point she might still invite you as a friend, or some other reason may crop up. It's just where I expect the highest concentration of important characters between the two. Entirely likely that, if you reject both, there'll be a third thing to do. Maybe a trip to the Pink Rose, who knows.

DPC lets us decide. We can also participate in the tournament and the celebration. However, for that to happen, the MC would have to change its location, and an open-world freeroam event is practically predestined for that.

This also answers the question from 87 people, since there are two events happening at the same time.

 

[Blue Milk]

I understand that it's New Year's Eve and all that, but Maya looks pretty revealing in any of these outfits. This is unusual for the introverted Maya, who prefers more modest clothing.

Hardly.

Look at these very much revealing outfits she wore in public. She's not afraid to show off a bit and does it regularly.

Are they happening simultaneously?

Yes. The game literally tells us this.

What if the MC can choose where to go?

We already did.

So he can't go to the faculty party if he didn't help Jill?

No, because you don't get invited to perform if you didn't.

But you're forgetting again that he needs to be friends with Sage and Jill at least. One of them could take the MC to the party. The only decision concerns whether the MC can play guitar at the party or not.

I literally said he might go if you're on their paths but not if you aren't.

You'll see, so that Jill, Sage, Isabella, Josy, Maya, and the MC will be at this college Christmas party.

M&J will not because they're neither faculty nor special guests.

Attending the faculty party as a guest rather than a performer does make more sense, so I expect that to be the "canon" event you attend even if you turn both down. No matter your relationship with Jill at that point she might still invite you as a friend, or some other reason may crop up. It's just where I expect the highest concentration of important characters between the two. Entirely likely that, if you reject both, there'll be a third thing to do. Maybe a trip to the Pink Rose, who knows.

You don't get invited if you didn't do the recital performance before. It's a private function for faculty and special guests so he won't be there universally.

 

[dalli_x]

Hardly.
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Look at these very much revealing outfits she wore in public. She's not afraid to show off a bit and does it regularly.



Yes. The game literally tells us this.



We already did.



No, because you don't get invited to perform if you didn't.



I literally said he might go if you're on their paths but not if you aren't.



M&J will not because they're neither faculty nor special guests.



You don't get invited if you didn't do the recital performance before. It's a private function for faculty and special guests so he won't be there universally.

How narrow-minded are you, really? Philip is simply asking the host if he wants to play guitar – or not. Philip isn't extending an invitation. But someone else might invite him to this party, and that won't happen until EP12.

Think what you want and I'm right.

 

[Josh M Spicer]

Ep11 was released and then patched in mid March. Giving a couple of weeks for washup/non-creating prep we can assume actual development didn't start into April (first preview was end of May). So it's been roughly 6 months of core "development".

So another six months would be April assuming all goes well. Even with some slippage August/September feels extremely pessimistic.

Hardly. This is the track record the game's release has been following. It's not pessimistic to follow the trends and then land on an answer.

It'd be pessimistic to say 2027, sure, but August/September doesn't seem too far out, especially since we don't know for sure how deep even into the episode he is.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Ep11 was released and then patched in mid March. Giving a couple of weeks for washup/non-creating prep we can assume actual development didn't start into April (first preview was end of May). So it's been roughly 6 months of core "development".

So another six months would be April assuming all goes well. Even with some slippage August/September feels extremely pessimistic.

You are going to have to redo your math on how long it takes to get from April to November and how long it takes to get to April from November. And you are going to have to back up your claim on the work starting in April rather than in February when ep 11 entered testing.

Pessimistic would be saying January 2027. September 2026 is just math.

 

[DIKHammer]

Magnar's holding his victory orgy.

by victory orgy you mean uniting the DIKS and Alphas together to beat the shit out of Ron & Magnar?

 

[jd8097619]

You are going to have to redo your math on how long it takes to get from April to November and how long it takes to get to April from November. And you are going to have to back up your claim on the work starting in April rather than in February when ep 11 entered testing.

Pessimistic would be saying January 2027. September 2026 is just math.

It's only just hit November. So April-October is 6-7 months depending on exactly when production spooled up.

And I did say my thinking was based on Ep11 still being patched and washed up on in March and the extended period before the first proper preview in May suggests it wasn't all engines go immediately after "launch" for Ep11.