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[Darkwen]

That's my point, If you would not have those moment where Josy / Maya say they prefer the player, you will not feel so positive about a possible solo path.

But because you get those scenes does not automatically means, the throuple has no chance and a break up will come . In order to achieve a solo path you will have to work for it, the same way as a throuple fans will have to work for their desired outcomes , neither of it is writen in stone yet, we literally playing and influencing the outcomes.

and that is what you try to deny by being narrow minded , and I think this is what Blue Milk , try to tell you.

It's kind of a similar way, as you believe that as even if we are not on their path you convinced yourself they gonna break up, despite it's shown the opposite by the game itself.


but if the narrow minded is a bit too hurtful to you and that is you main problem, than let me use a different definition:

but if the narrow minded is a bit too hurtful to you and that is you main problem, than let me use a different definition.

Wishful thinking

Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs based on what one wants to be true, rather than on evidence or reality. It is a cognitive bias where a desire for a certain outcome overrides rational judgment, leading to the assumption that something is true or possible simply because one wishes it to be so.

As I have said a million times til im blue in the face just because I don't think the throuple will survive doesn't mean it won't why can't some people get it through there head that i'm open to the possibility that i might be wrong about the breakup happening no matter what. That is what is narrow minded here. I feel very safe in saying there will be a breakup path but yes you right nothing is set in stone.

Some just want me to be 100% anti throuple and try to make it look like I deny the chance the throuple can be save yet as much as I feel the way I do i always say I could be wrong clearly that isn't enough for some, i would call that insecure and im tired of it what a simp to do

 

[EEMNHMQI]

is there a file for translating this game into spanish? the mega file dont exist... is down

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[ChipLecsap]

As I have said a million times til im blue in the face just because I don't think the throuple will survive doesn't mean it won't why can't some people get it through there head that i'm open to the possibility that i might be wrong about the breakup happening no matter what. That is what is narrow minded here. I feel very safe in saying there will be a breakup path but yes you right nothing is set in stone.

Some just want me to be 100% anti throuple and try to make it look like I deny the chance the throuple can be save yet as much as I feel the way I do i always say I could be wrong clearly that isn't enough for some, i would call that insecure and im tired of it what a simp to do

Yeah , cognitive bias , we can move on.

 

[Hengat]

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[Darkwen]

Yeah , cognitive bias , we can move on.

but im a nice person so I'll forgive it .. this time
but really it is very annoying any who moving on

 

[GibboBtw]

I don't think most of them are doomed to failure either. People just seem to be just taking the idea of exploring the possibility of it personally and lashing out at me. The only one I know won't make it is the throuple and one guy listed games like leap of faith as happy ending, but the throuple fails there too. The one game that isn't really a harem (at least from what I have played.) where the throuple seemed to make it was Bare Witness and that ending feels super forced in my opinion. Even the chasing Sunsets one fails if you don't get one condition correct, which I guess this guy gets his pigeon hole happy ending kinda. Also in chasing sunsets the Lisa relationship fails. So it isn't like stuff like this hasn't happened at all before. I agree the DPC will do what he likes best and usurp expectations in some ways. We will find out in 5 years how it all ends .

You genuinely might be one of the most confusing and baffling people I've seen on this forum, outside of Stanford that is...

Where do you get this complete and utter certainty that the throuple WILL fail, and has a 0% chance of working. It's genuinely baffling how you just "know it won't make it". And everybody who disagrees with you, is either 'gullible' for thinking it has a chance, or they're just wrong. Like who are you to have that information? Genuinely. Are you DPCs alt or what?

You seem to think that because you've never seen a throuple that is "successful" enough, in your eyes at least. Or had a good enough ending for you (when 90% of AVNs are still ongoing, or don't have a throuple in general.) That they are all now doomed to fail, no matter what. your mentality on this is truly puzzling.

 

[Blue Milk]

Have you considered that those moments you listed are exactly there just for give you the option for the solo path, and so the player could feel special about himself?
Its serv their porpuse in a way that shown the player that the chosen girl will love him " better "
But in the end of the day it is enterly up to the player how this will play out .

Even the love confession has various way it can be played out. If you have too much Cheat point, its not even come up, if you not have enough rp point , they not say it back ,and even if you have all the options , you as player you still have the option to not say it to them , possibly leaving it for future to a scene where MC say the I love you to both of them.

Blue Milk,
does have a point , you a bit narrow minded, and hyper focusing on details that favor toward the solo path, because that is your priority, and it's almost feel like you are afraid you wont get it, so as comfort you focus on only these little things , that are litellary there for this reason, to give you comfort .

Its seem like it's not the " throuple fans " who are insecure , but rather you , that is why you want to convince yourself they are doomed to fail no matter what

That's my point, If you would not have those moment where Josy / Maya say they prefer the player, you will not feel so positive about a possible solo path.

But because you get those scenes does not automatically means, the throuple has no chance and a break up will come . In order to achieve a solo path you will have to work for it, the same way as a throuple fans will have to work for their desired outcomes , neither of it is writen in stone yet, we literally playing and influencing the outcomes.

and that is what you try to deny by being narrow minded , and I think this is what Blue Milk , try to tell you.

It's kind of a similar way, as you believe that as even if we are not on their path you convinced yourself they gonna break up, despite it's shown the opposite by the game itself.


but if the narrow minded is a bit too hurtful to you and that is you main problem, than let me use a different definition:

but if the narrow minded is a bit too hurtful to you and that is you main problem, than let me use a different definition.

Wishful thinking

Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs based on what one wants to be true, rather than on evidence or reality. It is a cognitive bias where a desire for a certain outcome overrides rational judgment, leading to the assumption that something is true or possible simply because one wishes it to be so.

Well said

that part of why Josy just says she glad Maya isn't there

See, there you go again hyper focusing on one thing and blowing it up to match your want but ignoring the rest of the context.

Josy never said she was happy Maya wasn't there as if she only prefers being with the MC all the time. Her full comment was as follows:

"Don't take this the wrong way, but I like it when it's just us. I feel like our talks are deeper when we're alone. I mean, about you and me. When we talk about us and such."

You're only focusing on the first part and interpreting it in a way that is far greater than the sum of the whole comment. Because what she's actually saying is that she feels she can have deeper talks with him about each other when they spend time together. This, however, does not mean she prefers him overall, only that she feels it's easier to talk with him. Cut to her conversation with Maya later in the episode and we understand why that is:

"I think with everything you've gone through, I didn't want to bother you with my problems."

So what we have here is that because Josy was selflessly and somewhat detrimentally holding things back for what she thought was Maya's sake, this is why she felt good to talk to the MC about things because it's what she needed to do; to talk to someone. Josy herself made it difficult to talk with Maya not because it is or was difficult for a reason that amounts to them not being good together or anything like that, it was a self-inflicted wound on Josy thinking that she would be adding to Maya's problems, all of which is acknowledged in the very next part of their exchange:

Josy: "You already carry so much, and maybe you can't take it if I weigh you down."
Maya: "Have you been scared to tell me stuff?"
Josy: "Subconsciously, yeah. And it snowballed... And now it's this huge snowball that I can't push anymore."

Josy thought she was doing the right thing here by not burdening Maya further, but as she herself said it "snowballed" on her to this point. Then when she finally unburdens it all, Maya is so incredibly understanding and patient with her and showing Josy she needn't have held back like she did whilst also acknowledging how best to move forward and that is to not only be more open with each other but that she also needs to do more to support Josy. These are just some of the choice quotes that show all that:

"Tell me the things you've wanted to tell me. I won't break."
"You matter, Josy. You matter to me."
"I'm so thankful for everything you've done for me and how well you've supported me, but I failed to see that you were losing yourself while doing that."
"But I don't think we should postpone sharing these thoughts and having these talks anymore."
"We owe each other to be open about everything, and I'm sorry I've kept secrets from you."
"Again, we understand each other better than we think. We share a lot of these worries and thoughts."
"Let's make time for us and allow ourselves to dig in. And also, let me support you for a while."

All of these are pretty clear and positive expressions from Maya that can lead them to improving their relationship, especially when you couple them with Josy saying, "I want and need that", with regards to working on their relationship and I think we are going to see that before anything happens with regards to any solo paths.

the girls forget each other so fast after there talk

As for this, you're the one who seems to be forgetting that they agreed to deal with all this after the party which means they both agreed to really begin this process another day. So it's not that they forgot anything, they just agreed to enjoy the rest of the night without dealing with anymore heavy stuff and so let that slide for now.

Again this just feels like you are taking one little thing and warping it to your own viewpoint because of what you want it to mean which is, as ChipLecsap put it, your cognitive bias. You're not recognising or acknowledging that they still have plenty of time to do exactly what they said they wanted to do after this night and are rushing to a conclusion that suits your best interests rather than acknowledging that they haven't even started yet which is how it actually is.

 

[Darkwen]

Well said


See, there you go again hyper focusing on one thing and blowing it up to match your want but ignoring the rest of the context.

Josy never said she was happy Maya wasn't there as if she only prefers being with the MC all the time. Her full comment was as follows:

"Don't take this the wrong way, but I like it when it's just us. I feel like our talks are deeper when we're alone. I mean, about you and me. When we talk about us and such."

You're only focusing on the first part and interpreting it in a way that is far greater than the sum of the whole comment. Because what she's actually saying is that she feels she can have deeper talks with him about each other when they spend time together. This, however, does not mean she prefers him overall, only that she feels it's easier to talk with him. Cut to her conversation with Maya later in the episode and we understand why that is:

"I think with everything you've gone through, I didn't want to bother you with my problems."

So what we have here is that because Josy was selflessly and somewhat detrimentally holding things back for what she thought was Maya's sake, this is why she felt good to talk to the MC about things because it's what she needed to do; to talk to someone. Josy herself made it difficult to talk with Maya not because it is or was difficult for a reason that amounts to them not being good together or anything like that, it was a self-inflicted wound on Josy thinking that she would be adding to Maya's problems, all of which is acknowledged in the very next part of their exchange:

Josy: "You already carry so much, and maybe you can't take it if I weigh you down."
Maya: "Have you been scared to tell me stuff?"
Josy: "Subconsciously, yeah. And it snowballed... And now it's this huge snowball that I can't push anymore."

Josy thought she was doing the right thing here by not burdening Maya further, but as she herself said it "snowballed" on her to this point. Then when she finally unburdens it all, Maya is so incredibly understanding and patient with her and showing Josy she needn't have held back like she did whilst also acknowledging how best to move forward and that is to not only be more open with each other but that she also needs to do more to support Josy. These are just some of the choice quotes that show all that:

"Tell me the things you've wanted to tell me. I won't break."
"You matter, Josy. You matter to me."
"I'm so thankful for everything you've done for me and how well you've supported me, but I failed to see that you were losing yourself while doing that."
"But I don't think we should postpone sharing these thoughts and having these talks anymore."
"We owe each other to be open about everything, and I'm sorry I've kept secrets from you."
"Again, we understand each other better than we think. We share a lot of these worries and thoughts."
"Let's make time for us and allow ourselves to dig in. And also, let me support you for a while."

All of these are pretty clear and positive expressions from Maya that can lead them to improving their relationship, especially when you couple them with Josy saying, "I want and need that", with regards to working on their relationship and I think we are going to see that before anything happens with regards to any solo paths.


As for this, you're the one who seems to be forgetting that they agreed to deal with all this after the party which means they both agreed to really begin this process another day. So it's not that they forgot anything, they just agreed to enjoy the rest of the night without dealing with anymore heavy stuff and so let that slide for now.

Again this just feels like you are taking one little thing and warping it to your own viewpoint because of what you want it to mean which is, as ChipLecsap put it, your cognitive bias. You're not recognising or acknowledging that they still have plenty of time to do exactly what they said they wanted to do after this night and are rushing to a conclusion that suits your best interests rather than acknowledging that they haven't even started yet which is how it actually is.

if you want me to read this post your going to have to break it up, does everything have to be a essay not trying to be a ass but at least make it reader friendly

 

[Macky009]

Are u BooBMan or AssMan ??

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Both sounds good

 

[glaslow]

but im a nice person so I'll forgive it .. this time
but really it is very annoying any who moving on

it's ok we can pick josy and go find megan from acting lessons and create a new throuple. fuck these guys.

 

[Darkwen]

Again this just feels like you are taking one little thing and warping it to your own viewpoint because of what you want it to mean which is, as @ChipLecsap put it, your cognitive bias. You're not recognising or acknowledging that they still have plenty of time to do exactly what they said they wanted to do after this night and are rushing to a conclusion that suits your best interests rather than acknowledging that they haven't even started yet which is how it actually is

Im starting to think you have never read my posts what are you even talking about

how many times do i have to say the throuple could be save I can believe they will break up no matter what and still acknowledged there can be a path for all of them.

I really don't know what else I could say because you are rejecting that I have admitted it can be save you cannot call this my cognitive bias because the only bias here is yours.

You are going on and on about me not acknowledging something I have in fact acknowledge no one here can deny that fact.

 

[Darkwen]

it's ok we can pick josy and go find megan from acting lessons and create a new throuple. fuck these guys.

a throuple i can get behind

 

[Darkwen]

Josy never said she was happy Maya wasn't there as if she only prefers being with the MC all the time. Her full comment was as follows:

"Don't take this the wrong way, but I like it when it's just us. I feel like our talks are deeper when we're alone. I mean, about you and me. When we talk about us and such."

when someone is glad or likes when it just them that means she happy the other person isn't there

 

[Blue Milk]

if you want me to read this post your going to have to break it up, does everything have to be a essay not trying to be a ass but at least make it reader friendly

If you can't be bothered to read something that's not really my problem

when someone is glad or likes when it just them that means she happy the other person isn't there

Ignoring all other context just to suit your own viewpoint. Again, textbook cognitive bias

(Thank you ChipLecsap for this term )

 

[dalli_x]

Well said


See, there you go again hyper focusing on one thing and blowing it up to match your want but ignoring the rest of the context.

Josy never said she was happy Maya wasn't there as if she only prefers being with the MC all the time. Her full comment was as follows:

"Don't take this the wrong way, but I like it when it's just us. I feel like our talks are deeper when we're alone. I mean, about you and me. When we talk about us and such."

You're only focusing on the first part and interpreting it in a way that is far greater than the sum of the whole comment. Because what she's actually saying is that she feels she can have deeper talks with him about each other when they spend time together. This, however, does not mean she prefers him overall, only that she feels it's easier to talk with him. Cut to her conversation with Maya later in the episode and we understand why that is:

"I think with everything you've gone through, I didn't want to bother you with my problems."

So what we have here is that because Josy was selflessly and somewhat detrimentally holding things back for what she thought was Maya's sake, this is why she felt good to talk to the MC about things because it's what she needed to do; to talk to someone. Josy herself made it difficult to talk with Maya not because it is or was difficult for a reason that amounts to them not being good together or anything like that, it was a self-inflicted wound on Josy thinking that she would be adding to Maya's problems, all of which is acknowledged in the very next part of their exchange:

Josy: "You already carry so much, and maybe you can't take it if I weigh you down."
Maya: "Have you been scared to tell me stuff?"
Josy: "Subconsciously, yeah. And it snowballed... And now it's this huge snowball that I can't push anymore."

Josy thought she was doing the right thing here by not burdening Maya further, but as she herself said it "snowballed" on her to this point. Then when she finally unburdens it all, Maya is so incredibly understanding and patient with her and showing Josy she needn't have held back like she did whilst also acknowledging how best to move forward and that is to not only be more open with each other but that she also needs to do more to support Josy. These are just some of the choice quotes that show all that:

"Tell me the things you've wanted to tell me. I won't break."
"You matter, Josy. You matter to me."
"I'm so thankful for everything you've done for me and how well you've supported me, but I failed to see that you were losing yourself while doing that."
"But I don't think we should postpone sharing these thoughts and having these talks anymore."
"We owe each other to be open about everything, and I'm sorry I've kept secrets from you."
"Again, we understand each other better than we think. We share a lot of these worries and thoughts."
"Let's make time for us and allow ourselves to dig in. And also, let me support you for a while."

All of these are pretty clear and positive expressions from Maya that can lead them to improving their relationship, especially when you couple them with Josy saying, "I want and need that", with regards to working on their relationship and I think we are going to see that before anything happens with regards to any solo paths.


As for this, you're the one who seems to be forgetting that they agreed to deal with all this after the party which means they both agreed to really begin this process another day. So it's not that they forgot anything, they just agreed to enjoy the rest of the night without dealing with anymore heavy stuff and so let that slide for now.

Again this just feels like you are taking one little thing and warping it to your own viewpoint because of what you want it to mean which is, as ChipLecsap put it, your cognitive bias. You're not recognising or acknowledging that they still have plenty of time to do exactly what they said they wanted to do after this night and are rushing to a conclusion that suits your best interests rather than acknowledging that they haven't even started yet which is how it actually is.

I agree with you completely. I wouldn't be surprised if Josy and Maya have already had this conversation and we're just unaware of it. There was a small time jump between that conversation and Christmas at Isabella's, so one or more days have passed.

Therefore, I can easily imagine that a decision we've already made in the game has already resolved the situation, and we'll see the outcome in Episode 12.

 

[BJ461]

Now I remember why I stopped following this thread...

So what's peoples thoughts on Quinn potentially taking the first step of her redemption arc?

Any Lily Lovers, how did you choose to fuck her?

 

[Darkwen]

"Tell me the things you've wanted to tell me. I won't break."
"You matter, Josy. You matter to me."
"I'm so thankful for everything you've done for me and how well you've supported me, but I failed to see that you were losing yourself while doing that."
"But I don't think we should postpone sharing these thoughts and having these talks anymore."
"We owe each other to be open about everything, and I'm sorry I've kept secrets from you."
"Again, we understand each other better than we think. We share a lot of these worries and thoughts."
"Let's make time for us and allow ourselves to dig in. And also, let me support you for a while."

All of these are pretty clear and positive expressions from Maya that can lead them to improving their relationship, especially when you couple them with Josy saying, "I want and need that", with regards to working on their relationship and I think we are going to see that before anything happens with regards to any solo paths.

It is positive the part your showing but your leaving out a lot of things:
Josy "But I can't say how I feel about you anymore. And I don't understand why"
Josy "And I can't go on and pretend this isn't and issue"
Josy "It scares me. its scares me to be confused. I hope the love between us isn't gone can return to blossom again"
Josy "And telling you about this now... I can feel the weight coming off my shoulders"
Josy "But i'm scared to stop talking and hearing how you will react. But I'm gonna do it ..

Maya "I'm sorry that you feel this way about it all.."
Maya "You matter, Josy. you matter to me"
Maya "I thought we had good communication... Well, maybe not lately ... And apparently, it's good enough"
Maya "I'm so thankful for everything you done for me and how well you've supported me, but I failed to see that you were losing yourself while doing that"
Maya "If we are happy as a group but not when we alone, we need to find out why that is"
Maya "I can only speak for myself, but I've not been thinking a lot about the relationship you and i have when we're with MC"
Maya "All those nasty thoughts I didn't want to have when my dad posed his ultimatum almost disappeared when the three of us got together'
Maya "So, there is something I don't understand either"
Maya "I think it good that you've spent some time alone thinking about all of this"
Maya "But I don't think we should postpone sharing these thoughts and having these talks anymore"
Maya "My future and possibilities are changing now -hopefully for something much better"
Maya " you and i need tp figure out where well go from here together"
Maya "MC is a part of it,too, but I feel you and I have issues between us on our own"
Maya "We owe each other to be open about everything, and i'm sorry I've kept secrets from you"

Josy "exhales"
Josy "I didn't expect you to take it this well"

Maya "Again, we understand each other better then we think. We share a lot of these worries and thoughts"
Maya "Are you willing to try it with me"

Josy "I want and need that"

Maya ''And your right. We shouldn't have this talk during this party.
Lets make time for us and allow ourselves to dig in.
And also, let me support you for a while"

Josy "your the best"

Which is follow by MC sleeping with one girl on the couch. Josy and maya words say they still willing to try but honestly they did this in ep 8 it didn't work that time. this is two woman still trying and realize something is very wrong but it hasn't fully figure out what wrong it yet. thought sad face Maya or sad Josy could be starting to figure it out. Over all this isn't a positive talk but more of a bittersweet talk with two lovers drifting apart trying one last time to fits things.

well that as a lot

 

[Darkwen]

If you can't be bothered to read something that's not really my problem



Ignoring all other context just to suit your own viewpoint. Again, textbook cognitive bias

(Thank you ChipLecsap for this term )

your only seeing what you want to you and chip are wrong, as my post above proves

 

[glaslow]

Now I remember why I stopped following this thread...

So what's peoples thoughts on Quinn potentially taking the first step of her redemption arc?

Any Lily Lovers, how did you choose to fuck her?

I gave her the hard sex she wanted because I think if we are going to take the feelings and relationship step she needs to be the one to take the step. I think she will run off if I forced her into it.
I think Quinn put a target on her back doing what she did. So it will be interesting to see how it all goes. I hope Riona Comes back.

 

[Kpyna]

what happen to MC leg??????? also Josy needs to wear that for real OMJ not just a fake preview
Alady

It's not a leg... It's his dick. Don't you see that?