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It's actually pretty hard to draw conclusions about their emotions from this. They seem more angry than anything else, but at the same time they feel guilty for being angry. Like it's a very selfish reaction in the situation.

At this point just about everyone here knows about my theory of Bella and Lynette having been friends, but this situation actually works without it too. It just makes more sense if Bella's secrets are somehow connected to MC personally regardless of path.

As I envision it we return to the moment of shock after the recap and flashback. For the moment everyone is kind of frozen and either Bella or MC takes over the situation. They tell the girls to get into Jill's car and drive Derek to the hospital. Jill drives, Sage is in the front seat with the iced fingertip and Josy and Maya look after Derek in the backseat. They've got Derek to the hospital and now he is in the care of the doctors and Maya is either getting the news on how it went or anxiously waiting for it.

MC and Bella are still at her house, one of them has been overcome by the shock of the situation and the other is trying to deal with it after sending the girls and Derek to the hospital. What I can't decide is which way around is more satisfying. Bella being the one who goes to pieces or MC.
It's not that difficult to draw conclusions. All three are thinking about something.

I completely agree with Hahn1900 that Derek's injury isn't the end of the world. It would only be the end of the world if it turned out that it happened simply because Derek's mother's hereditary disease manifested. Maya says that her mother's disease manifested when she was the same age as Maya. They're twins, so they're the same age.

I think that, like in Episode 11 with Nick, it led to a heated argument and things were said that Josy, Jill, and Sage are pondering.
 

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I accept DPC's words. He wrote that there will be a large freeroam event with 87 people. But he definitely didn't write that the DIKs should celebrate together with the ALPHAs.
Without the Alphas, just who are these 87 people in the massive freeroam?

By my count, we have

8 Diks
13 HOTS
8 Dorm Girls
5 Femenists
5 Nerds
6 Preps
8 Alphas

We are up to 53 by including every known group to us, obviously there are stragglers here and there I've not counted, such as KRJ, Sally, Cinderella and the likes...

But you don't get up to the number DPC quoted without including pretty much everyone.

It seems pretty likely to me that whatever the reason for the massive freeroam (and a big party seems the likely explanation) it will indeed have the DIKs celebrating with not only the Jocks but the Preps too, you simply can't get the numbers otherwise
 

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Without the Alphas, just who are these 87 people in the massive freeroam?

By my count, we have

8 Diks
13 HOTS
8 Dorm Girls
5 Femenists
5 Nerds
6 Preps
8 Alphas

We are up to 53 by including every known group to us, obviously there are stragglers here and there I've not counted, such as KRJ, Sally, Cinderella and the likes...

But you don't get up to the number DPC quoted without including pretty much everyone.

It seems pretty likely to me that whatever the reason for the massive freeroam (and a big party seems the likely explanation) it will indeed have the DIKs celebrating with not only the Jocks but the Preps too, you simply can't get the numbers otherwise
Maybe all the girls I creampied are pregnant - and count as double! :unsure:

There's another 20 for the list - right there. (y)
 

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Without the Alphas, just who are these 87 people in the massive freeroam?

By my count, we have

8 Diks
13 HOTS
8 Dorm Girls
5 Femenists
5 Nerds
6 Preps
8 Alphas

We are up to 53 by including every known group to us, obviously there are stragglers here and there I've not counted, such as KRJ, Sally, Cinderella and the likes...

But you don't get up to the number DPC quoted without including pretty much everyone.

It seems pretty likely to me that whatever the reason for the massive freeroam (and a big party seems the likely explanation) it will indeed have the DIKs celebrating with not only the Jocks but the Preps too, you simply can't get the numbers otherwise
I know this is going to bother a lot of people because they can't imagine how the total number of 87 characters could be any other way. It's not that hard to create a new character in Daz3D. Even in the preview of the fighting tournament, you can definitely see two new characters. There could even be four, but I can't see their faces, so I can't say for sure. DPC has been creating new characters from the very beginning and with every new expansion pack. It's not difficult to get to 87 characters.

I think Blue Milk's only problem is that he can't imagine any other way DPC could have 87 characters. Who knows how many new characters we've seen in the game so far, and the main character hasn't even spoken to them?
 

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It seems silly to assume all 87 characters present will be named characters we already know. But, at the same time, it seems silly to assume the Alphas won't be represented in some fashion; even if none of them are invited, such an event seems prime for crashing, especially after Dawe has already declared that he's going to stop the DIKs and HOTs from partying for New Year's. Either Sage brokers a compromise where they all party together, or one frat is crashing the other's party. And based on the renders, it seems at the very least unlikely that the DIKs are crashing the Alpha party. There's just too much tasty drama for DPC to avoid having the frats clash during the party in some way.
 

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It seems silly to assume all 87 characters present will be named characters we already know. But, at the same time, it seems silly to assume the Alphas won't be represented in some fashion; even if none of them are invited, such an event seems prime for crashing, especially after Dawe has already declared that he's going to stop the DIKs and HOTs from partying for New Year's. Either Sage brokers a compromise where they all party together, or one frat is crashing the other's party. And based on the renders, it seems at the very least unlikely that the DIKs are crashing the Alpha party. There's just too much tasty drama for DPC to avoid having the frats clash during the party in some way.
Sage's compromise is that half the HOTs will party with the DIKs and the other half with the Alphas. In episode 11, 13 HOTs are shown. I think this is meant to ensure that there are only 12 HOTs left in episode 12, since Quinn has left college. Her suitcases were already packed, and since Riona's return has been confirmed, Quinn can't go back.

In episode 11, Sage tells Dawe that she can't forbid her girls from going to a party. The same applies to the New Year's Eve party. That's why Sage will also be at the Alpha party, because her presence officially marks the HOTs as part of the Alphas, even if not all HOTs will be there. Arieth's reason for being there is clear: It's because of Dawe. As we know, Melanie and Sarah are also friends with Chad, so they'll be there too.
 
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4K is the new 60 FPS :HideThePain: Why not do that stuff after it's finished?
It doesn't take any additional time on his side, it's the opposite. He is rendering in DAZ in 4K initially. So, he have all of the original renders stored in uncompressed format. Then he downscale images to 1080p and saves all this to JPEG. So, ironically, downscaling the original renders from 4K to 1080p is an additional task. Otherwise, he'd only have to save 4k to JPEG and that's all.

4K renders, he is doing a job for 4.83% of gamer audience according to Steam statistics who have 4K monitors. :HideThePain:
2K would be enough, it is more mainstream now with 20% of users, 4K is still for the elites. But DPC being DPC.
4k renders looks much better on 2k displays, rather than the upscaled 1080p renders. So, 4k is absolutely suitable for both 2k & 4k users. So it's 25% at least. And making this as a DLC, which this group of players may optionally pay for & download is a smart move, imo. Zero work (except packing this DLC) with a quite good income. I'd say it's geniushly.
 
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It seems silly to assume all 87 characters present will be named characters we already know. But, at the same time, it seems silly to assume the Alphas won't be represented in some fashion; even if none of them are invited, such an event seems prime for crashing, especially after Dawe has already declared that he's going to stop the DIKs and HOTs from partying for New Year's. Either Sage brokers a compromise where they all party together, or one frat is crashing the other's party. And based on the renders, it seems at the very least unlikely that the DIKs are crashing the Alpha party. There's just too much tasty drama for DPC to avoid having the frats clash during the party in some way.
Would we even get to 87 with every known character? We are at 53 with every known student group. We can push that up to 60 by adding Nick, Troy, Zoey, Jill, KRJ, Sally and Cinders (who don't seem to be in any group) you can add the pink rose Girls for 6 more, the facalty members gets you what 8 more including Cathy? Josy's parents, Jill's Parents and The Twins parents gets you 6 more (but a few of these are unlikely) and Jill's friend group including Bianca would get you a bit more.

We can definitely get to the numbers with known characters, but it's getting to the extremes, So I'm with you I think we probably going to get some new characters, but we still need groups who you wouldn't expect to be in a room together, such as the DIKs, Jocks and Preps to get the numbers. How the Jocks or preps get there is anyone's guess, but I suspect DPC wants them all in one area regardless for the fallout of Magnar's plan
 

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Sage's compromise is that half the HOTs will party with the DIKs and the other half with the Alphas. In episode 11, 13 HOTs are shown. I think this is meant to ensure that there are only 12 HOTs left in episode 12, since Quinn has left college. Her suitcases were already packed, and since Riona's return has been confirmed, Quinn can't go back.

In episode 11, Sage tells Dawe that she can't forbid her girls from going to a party. The same applies to the New Year's Eve party. That's why Sage will also be at the Alpha party, because her presence officially marks the HOTs as part of the Alphas, even if not all HOTs will be there. Arieth's reason for being there is clear: It's because of Dawe. As we know, Melanie and Sarah are also friends with Chad, so they'll be there too.
Unlike in America, I can see a two-party solution working out; what I can't see is both of those parties being part of one freeroam.

Unless they're doing this middle school gym style, where both parties are being hosted in the same room with a big divider down the middle - a singularly stupid idea, given the history between the two frats - they'd have to be in separate buildings. So any freeroam event would have to logistically feature the MC running back and forth between two different parties to make this make sense; it's something we could do in the decorating one, since the HOT house is right nearby and there wasn't any sense of timeliness to it, but is anyone really expecting to do that during a New Year's party? Hell no.

If - and I can't stress this enough, if - there are two parties, one of them would likely just be us getting little glimpses of what's going on between events at the DIK party, similar to what we saw at Bella's house during the panty party. Only this time, I suspect we wouldn't be getting invited over. To me, it seems much more logical that it's just one party in an effort to force the DIKs and Alphas get along and learn to share, but only time will tell I suppose.
 
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Unlike in America, I can see a two-party solution working out; what I can't see is both of those parties being part of one freeroam.

Unless they're doing this middle school gym style, where both parties are being hosted in the same room with a big divider down the middle - a singularly stupid idea, given the history between the two frats - they'd have to be in separate buildings. So any freeroam event would have to logistically feature the MC running back and forth between two different parties to make this make sense; it's something we could do in the decorating one, since the HOT house is right nearby and there wasn't any sense of timeliness to it, but is anyone really expecting to do that during a New Year's party? Hell no.

If - and I can't stress this enough, if - there are two parties, one of them would likely just be us getting little glimpses of what's going on between events at the DIK party, similar to what we saw at Bella's house during the panty party. Only this time, I suspect we wouldn't be getting invited over. To me, it seems much more logical that it's just one party in an effort to force the DIKs and Alphas get along and learn to share, but only time will tell I suppose.
That's why I wrote it last time, so it could be branch-dependent. See the spoiler.
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-11-1-drpinkcake.25332/post-18862873
 

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That's why I wrote it last time, so it could be branch-dependent. See the spoiler.
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-11-1-drpinkcake.25332/post-18862873
If DPC hadn't said it was a singular freeroam, I'd probably agree. But having multiple freeroams in the same time slot based on your choices doesn't make them the same freeroam. Like, we wouldn't consider you choosing to stay with Sage, Bella or Derek after Josy comes to B&R to all be the same freeroam, right? I think the idea has narrative merit, it simply doesn't fit what we've been told about the party.
 

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I was thinking that there might be a switch for the party board. Either we have 8 representatives for all the groups, which would seem to fall short no matter what (four fraternities, one sorority, dormies and teachers only adding up to 7) or we move up to an 8x8 board with more than 8 people to please. Call it 15 it being just short of twice for 8 just as 64 is for 36.
Why the hell the MC have to plan party for any other rather than the DIKs and himself? I mean, the thing with % of happiness for DIKs and starting from the EP11, for MC himself, is quite a hint. There's no sense, time or space left to bring here other frats members or even groups of people (like teachers as you said). There's no way that the upcoming parties will be in the same format. So, there's no sense to please anybody except DIKs and MC. Even if we assume it could be done, then it's useless again, because 4-th Season is smaller or at least will have another style and format, and I don't expect more than 2 parties in the future. So the % of happiness for hypothetical groups or people suddenly introduced in EP12 is a useless thing to do, because player won't have a chance to make them 100% happy in the pair of remaining parties. I won't say it is an important thing to exclude such a possibility, but since this party planner stuff is a part of game for the "perfectionists" as well, so...
 
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Why the hell the MC have to plan party for any other rather than the DIKs and himself? I mean, the thing with % of happiness for DIKs and starting from the EP11, for MC himself, is quite a hint. There's no sense, time or space left to bring here other frats members or even groups of people (like teachers as you said). There's no way that the upcoming parties will be in the same format. So, there's no sense to please anybody except DIKs and MC. Even if we assume it could be done, then it's useless again, because 4-th Season is smaller or at least will have another style and format, and I don't expect more than 2 parties in the future. So the % of happiness for hypothetical groups or people suddenly introduced in EP12 is a useless thing to do, because player won't have a chance to make them 100% happy in the pair of remaining parties. I won't say it is an important thing to exclude such a possibility, but since this party planner stuff is a part of game for the "perfectionists" as well, so...
This statement makes no sense; the presence of other people in no way affects the party minigame. It wasn't just DIKs at Halloween. It wasn't just DIKs at Thanksgiving. It wasn't just DIKs at Christmas. Why would New Year's be any different?
 

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If DPC hadn't said it was a singular freeroam, I'd probably agree. But having multiple freeroams in the same time slot based on your choices doesn't make them the same freeroam. Like, we wouldn't consider you choosing to stay with Sage, Bella or Derek after Josy comes to B&R to all be the same freeroam, right? I think the idea has narrative merit, it simply doesn't fit what we've been told about the party.
DPC has announced that EP12 will have several free roam events. All we know is that he's currently working on the biggest free roam event. What if he's already finished the smaller one (ALPHA New Year's Eve Party)?

DPC does give us previews, that's true. But does it necessarily have to be a preview of what he's currently working on? No.

The best example is the trailers. In one, we see Josy wearing some really sexy lingerie. The whole thing takes place in a setting we can't definitively identify. Yes, the assumption is that it's in her room with her mother. But that's just a guess. We don't know for sure. Incidentally, I suspect it's so Josy is wearing the MC's Christmas present.
 

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DPC has announced that EP12 will have several free roam events. All we know is that he's currently working on the biggest free roam event. What if he's already finished the smaller one (ALPHA New Year's Eve Party)?

DPC does give us previews, that's true. But does it necessarily have to be a preview of what he's currently working on? No.

The best example is the trailers. In one, we see Josy wearing some really sexy lingerie. The whole thing takes place in a setting we can't definitively identify. Yes, the assumption is that it's in her room with her mother. But that's just a guess. We don't know for sure. Incidentally, I suspect it's so Josy is wearing the MC's Christmas present.
Ah, okay, I think I see what you're getting at now. That would be possible. I still think it'll be just one party, but I don't think doing it this way is impossible either. Certainly more feasible than the "you can do both the tournament and the faculty party in the same freeroam" theory. :p
 
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This statement makes no sense; the presence of other people in no way affects the party minigame. It wasn't just DIKs at Halloween. It wasn't just DIKs at Thanksgiving. It wasn't just DIKs at Christmas. Why would New Year's be any different?
You're right. But try making a DIK happy when the ALPHAs are at the party. Therefore, the Party Planner Game would be pointless.
 

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You're right. But try making a DIK happy when the ALPHAs are at the party. Therefore, the Party Planner Game would be pointless.
Not necessarily; the DIKs were down in the dumps before Christmas because of the big fight. Doesn't mean they can't have a good time. It's not about making them truly happy with the situation, it's just about making them enjoy the party; at the end of the day, it follows as much logic as a college English class making students spell a bunch of words with an array of letters or a math class making students play Minesweeper: which is to say, none, the minigame is just there so the game isn't all about mashing buttons to get from choice to choice so you can screw whichever girl you like best.
 

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The problem we've got at the moment. All of the groups hate each other. None perhaps more so than the DIKs and Alphas, but thanks to Magnar there's a lot of hate towards the DIKs there is no reason any of them should be in the same room together, yet all the information we have, would suggest they do.

You can't claim party planning won't allow it, cause you can turn it off

You can't claim MC will win the tournament and win favour with the jocks, because you don't even need to attend

You can't claim the facility party is happening in the same building as the tournament and you can somehow attend both because you don't even need to be there. Technically you can turn down both.

Granted 87 people is a lot of characters and I just can't see it happening without the Jocks and without the Hots, there's 20 people right there.

Would there be two parties in different places of the same building to allow the Hots to freely go between the DIKs and the Jocks? Possible, but it's equally likely that Given both groups want the Hots Sage just says you either have us together or not at all and we get a big celebration with everyone, getting all groups in the same room setting up a nice argument from Magnars interference as a season finale and cliffhanger for season 4

Remember we are either approaching or are in the End Game now. We need to be thinking less about what situations are likely and less likely given groups feelings towards each other but what are more likely to answer questions and close paths
 
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