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I'm not saying that John Boy may have used "community stuff" as a euphemism, but that that's what Elena told him and he just accepts it. Elena would be the one using it as a euphemism because she knows about it.
I think the Third years don’t know about the hooking. If I had to guess I’d say Sage and Arieth have no idea about either the drugs or the prostitution. Heather and Elena clearly know about the drugs, but one of the conversations between Heather and Quinn (at the pool) strongly suggests she doesn’t know about the hooking.

I think the hooking was Quinn‘s idea and she got her Other ‘Daughters’ involved, with Sarah, Riona and Melanie. (I think those 3 are second years).

On another note the question of when Sage, Jill, Heather and Elena graduate. I think they are in their final year. The language in game about this does imply ‘the end of next year’ but I think that means the end of this school year so ‘the end of this next school year’. Or they mean next year as in the calendar year will tick over in a few months. I don’t think it’s very clear if the school is a 3 of 4 year one. And it would also be odd for Sage to be handing off the presidency to Quinn when she essentially has 2 full years left in the job.
 
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So, as far as this "canon" stuff is concerned, there is technically a canon series of events that happen regardless of player choice, and whilst all the moments and events based on player choices are canon in the sense that DPC made them and they're part of the story, they form part of each player's own individual canon story where they play out these events in their own way.

Take Sage, for example. The canon moments with her are as such:
  • Meeting her in the cafeteria
  • Meeting her the next day
  • Getting the guitar back from her
  • Seeing her at the DIK party
  • Spying on Chad for her and then meeting her in her dorm room
  • Sparring training with her
  • Chatting with her in the Prep mansion
These all happen regardless of whether people choose to pursue Sage or not, therefore players who choose to give Sage guitar lessons and progress to FWB with her get a certain series of events which then become their canon version of the story.

However, whilst this game does have canon events which happen for everyone regardless of the path they're on, we can't really say that there is a definitive canon version here because the story is going to be whatever the player chooses to make it. Even Quinn's drug business will surely enter the MC's sphere at some point and there will likely be choices to be made that will affect her and it, thus affecting its trajectory, so it too will not have any kind of fixed "canon" path.
are you sure about the last point?

if you are in the pact with Mata and Josy I don't think you will stop with Sage
 

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Regarding the canonical topic, to sum it up, my playthrough may be canonical to me but not to you. But to DPC, all are viable routes so all are canonical. In the world of BaDIK, there is a tree with alternate branches of what happens based on choices. No matter whatever choice the player makes, is considered valid.
I didn't misunderstand, I'm saying you're using the wrong terminology to describe your point.

I agree there are certain fixed points which are common to multiple paths. This doesn't make the points of divergence non-canon. It's almost certain the final love interest will be a result of the players choices, so it's obviously a branching story to some extent with alternate timelines/realities.
Seems like I got a lot of reading to catch up on, but now that's exactly how it is very well put the voices of reason (y) The branching is the most complex part of the game for DPC to do I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for that just playing all the damn routes is a strain enough making sure you've tried every option to see any differences and oh boy there certainly is.
 

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if MC's proposal to Maya and Josy has been accepted, it seems to me that after the PREP party MC no longer talks to Sage
Are we talking about if the MC isn't with Sage but is with M&J? Because I can't say for sure how that goes as I haven't done it myself, but I know from what others have said that the chat they have seems to indicate that, in this scenario, if Sage had ended things with Chad earlier then the MC might have been interested in pursuing something and Sage seems somewhat interested in him. Therefore, some people seem to suspect that a 2nd chance at a Sage path may open up after this.

Even if that isn't the case, there may very well be more moments like this where the MC and Sage have friendly interactions, so I don't think we can for sure that this chat in ep 5 ends any and all interactions with Sage in the future.
 

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Are we talking about if the MC isn't with Sage but is with M&J? Because I can't say for sure how that goes as I haven't done it myself, but I know from what others have said that the chat they have seems to indicate that, in this scenario, if Sage had ended things with Chad earlier then the MC might have been interested in pursuing something and Sage seems somewhat interested in him. Therefore, some people seem to suspect that a 2nd chance at a Sage path may open up after this.

Even if that isn't the case, there may very well be more moments like this where the MC and Sage have friendly interactions, so I don't think we can for sure that this chat in ep 5 ends any and all interactions with Sage in the future.
exactly

I refer only to the after PREP party.

after that, in theory, there would still be the meeting in the HOTs garden (even if it is not canon even that)
 

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exactly

I refer only to the after PREP party.

after that, in theory, there would still be the meeting in the HOTs garden (even if it is not canon even that)
Well, that only happens if you agree to help Sage learn guitar on the FWB path, which means it doesn't happen for everybody and is therefore not a "canon" scene since it's not universal. But just because that's not a universal scene for everybody doesn't necessarily mean that scenes with Sage are done on the friend path as there could still be some in later episodes.
 
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Seems like I got a lot of reading to catch up on, but now that's exactly how it is very well put the voices of reason (y) The branching is the most complex part of the game for DPC to do I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for that just playing all the damn routes is a strain enough making sure you've tried every option to see any differences and oh boy there certainly is.

But seriously, he should have done something similar to keep the interactions mapped. I hope not in the wall, though :ROFLMAO: .
 
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Are you sure you quoted the right post? :WaitWhat: Because I'm honestly not sure why this reads like you think I don't like M&J because I am one of, if not THE, most staunch defender of them, especially Maya.

The post you responded to was me crticising those who do dislike/hate M&J because most of them are likely to be hypocrites who wouldn't think there was anything wrong if they did the same thing as them.
Oh no, I was agreeing with your post and trying to add my own feelings about the M&J hate. I'm well aware of your feelings on the matter at this point, lol
 
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Oh no, I was agreeing with your post and trying to add my own feelings about the M&J hate. I'm well aware of your feelings on the matter at this point, lol
Ah, OK. I think I just focused on that last line and was like, "What? Why do I need to reexamine what I think about M&J when I'm defending them?" :ROFLMAO:
 

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OK, let's summarize this. Everything you do in the game is canon because there isn't a canonical path defined by the dev. A truly canon path would only appear if DPC ever makes a sequel assuming that one specific path was what actually happened in this universe. Until then everything is canon. What we have here is just branches and alternative situations, with some unskippable, fixed events that are central to the story and will happen regardless our choices. The outcomes of those events might be different though because of such choices. But everything is canon - or better yet, nothing is canon
 

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OK, let's summarize this. Everything you do in the game is canon because there isn't a canonical path defined by the dev. A truly canon path would only appear if DPC ever makes a sequel assuming that one specific path was what actually happened in this universe. Until then everything is canon. What we have here is just branches and alternative situations, with some unskippable, fixed events that are central to the story and will happen regardless our choices. The outcomes of those events might be different though because of such choices. But everything is canon - or better yet, nothing is canon
Following the Assassin's Creed maxim: Nothing is true; everything is permitted.
 

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about the M&J hate
Don't tell me people still go on about all this? I wonder if it's the most talked-about thing apart from whens the next update :ROFLMAO: but seriously real M&J fans don't take it so seriously because it's been there from near enough the start you'll get some sensitive souls making a big fuss about it but the real ones are more focused on M&J themselves and don't bother so much about the hate I guess some just need a talking point for whatever reasons.
 

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Quinn is kicking back with a beer in the daily render of the Beach fun series.

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Gorgeous as ever. A lovely Monday pick me up of my favourite girl.
 
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Quinn is kicking back with a beer in the daily render of the Beach fun series.

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Was wondering when we'd get today's installment, and it's everybody's favourite bad girl. ;)

Deny it all you want, but you know you want her. :love:
 

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Everyone is so nicely tanned at this beach series. This college needs to relocate at least the sororities to the beach right now gawdammit!!
 
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