VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[always86]

Do you guys think this game will have dark turns? I know Dr said this game will be more light hearty but still.

I’d hope it won’t be as Dark as Acting Lessons. I think that will actually spoil this. I see this as soap opera meets teen comedy. At the moment it the story is leaning into soap opera tropes, while the setting and characters are teen comedy. Hopefully it keeps riding the line.

What you see as lack of personality, i see otherwise. I quite like her personality and understand it as well. She is simply not your preference, thats it. Someone who you genuinely dislke. I for example dislike Derek greatly. I couldn't care less about Maya or Josey. I'm stuck with them.

But i consider them integral part of the game i don't want them to be just changed or removed, maybe the game later offers a chance to get rid of them.. that is, to avoid them. But if not so be it.

But these aren't mistakes here. They are just different personalites, and differ this greatly for a good a reason.

I like all of the main LIs. They all have their own charms. Maya is cute but makes bad choices, Josy out going, Jill is sweet, Sage is grumpy and mean and kind at the same time, Bella is moody but funny just Deadpan. The journey with her will presumably be drawing out her personality she has hidden behind the ice queen persona.

I have to agree about Bella. The anormaly big tits seems like he (dev) was trying to pander to a specific crown. Still she is a great character despite this.

However i do like Jade's model a lot more. She is a actual milf while having more proportional body measures. Hell i wish she was one of the main romantic routes, i even know who i would kick out to give her space.

In fairness I think nearly all of the main love interests have hyper sexualised characteristics. Big hips, slim wastes, perky butts, big boobs. Yes Bella is the most cartoonish, I don’t think any of them can be consider realistic. I mean, you manage to tit fuck Josy i‘m sorry to say there is 0 chance of those B cups preforming that godly duty IRL



To change the subject slightly, I’ve been wondering if the Crabs might not actually be Arieth. Isn’t she clean shaven? We do know however that one of the DIKs has a girlfriend with a honking great bush. my lead suspect; Dani.

 

[Ennoch]

I like all of the main LIs. They all have their own charms. Maya is cute but makes bad choices, Josy out going, Jill is sweet, Sage is grumpy and mean and kind at the same time, Bella is moody but funny just Deadpan. The journey with her will presumably be drawing out her personality she has hidden behind the ice queen persona.

You have the most fun out of the game then, lucky you Of course they have their own charm, i always say that they are for different types, so that a wider audience could have someone to pursue. White Knights have their waifu, wildchilds have their own, degenrate melon fans like myself have Bella Not that her proportions have anything to do with her personality really.

I find it somewhat interesting that some just can't handle a mature personality. Bella's precieved fault is that she just doesn't fall into the MC's arms from the get-go and unlike so many games.. she doesn't want to tell half her life-story to some random kid she just met. Its beside the point that she has some issues the meantime.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I’d hope it won’t be as Dark as Acting Lessons. I think that will actually spoil this. I see this as soap opera meets teen comedy. At the moment it the story is leaning into soap opera tropes, while the setting and characters are teen comedy. Hopefully it keeps riding the line.



I like all of the main LIs. They all have their own charms. Maya is cute but makes bad choices, Josy out going, Jill is sweet, Sage is grumpy and mean and kind at the same time, Bella is moody but funny just Deadpan. The journey with her will presumably be drawing out her personality she has hidden behind the ice queen persona.



In fairness I think nearly all of the main love interests have hyper sexualised characteristics. Big hips, slim wastes, perky butts, big boobs. Yes Bella is the most cartoonish, I don’t think any of them can be consider realistic. I mean, you manage to tit fuck Josy i‘m sorry to say there is 0 chance of those B cups preforming that godly duty IRL



To change the subject slightly, I’ve been wondering if the Crabs might not actually be Arieth. Isn’t she clean shaven? We do know however that one of the DIKs has a girlfriend with a honking great bush. my lead suspect; Dani.

It could not be Arieth, sure. But how do you explain that Dani passed the crabs to so many DIKs? (Pun may or may not be intended ) Butit's true that Arieth looks shaven. Is there anything better than this?

 

[RohanPrince]

What you see as lack of personality, i see otherwise. I quite like her personality and understand it as well. She is simply not your preference, that's it. Someone who you genuinely dislike. I for example dislike Derek greatly. I couldn't care less about Maya or Josey. I'm stuck with them.

But i consider them integral part of the game i don't want them to be just changed or removed, maybe the game later offers a chance to get rid of them.. that is, to avoid them. But if not so be it.

But these aren't mistakes here. They are just different personalities, and differ this greatly for a good a reason.

I don't know the whole discussion about Bella, but personally Bella and Jill are my favorite. I keep on waiting for their content every time. I love Bella's character not just because of her proportions, but because she has that hard to get personality and probably some past which we have started uncovering slowly and steadily.

I like Jill because she is just bubbly and fun personality.

Cathy and Jade are extra side characters whereas Bella is a main female love interest. I like the games where their is some development, and this Dev is amazing. He has let the romantic development not be extremely fast, but not a very slow burn as well.

Personally I like all the girls in this game. But if I have to rank my preference, it is Bella>Jill>Sage>=Josy=Maya. The other Hots are good as side characters and I like them as well.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

You have the most fun out of the game then, lucky you Of course they have their own charm, i always say that they are for different types, so that a wider audience could have someone to pursue. White Knights have their waifu, wildchilds have their own, degenrate melon fans like myself have Bella Not that her proportions have anything to do with her personality really.

I find it somewhat interesting that some just can't handle a mature personality. Bella's precieved fault is that he just doesn't fall into the MC's arms from the get-go and unlike so many games.. she doesn't want to tell half her life-story to some random kid she just met. Its beside the point that she has some issues the meantime.

I have a hard time believing that Bella has a mature personality. She doesn't know what she wants and says (and thinks) one thing and does another. Jill looks more mature in that regard. She know what she wants, what pace she wants and acts accordingly. Even Jade is more mature than her.

 

[lemonfreak]

I have a hard time believing that Bella has a mature personality. She doesn't know what she wants and says (and thinks) one thing and does another. Jill looks more mature in that regard. She know what she wants, what pace she wants and acts accordingly. Even Jade is more mature than her.

Well Jade is about 10 years older than Bella

I actually think Bella is trying to play a role that isn't her and, as we learn more about her past, we'll realise she's actually a natural Hot Not a restaurant Hot but certainly closer to Sage than Maya.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Well Jade is about 10 years older than Bella

I actually think Bella is trying to play a role that isn't her and, as we learn more about her past, we'll realise she's actually a natural Hot Not a restaurant Hot but certainly closer to Sage than Maya.

And Jill is 10 years younger. My point is she doesn't look to me like a mature personality. Bella might be the oldest of the LI, but not the most mature imo. She's fallen for the MC the same as the rest, but her cold façade and her constantly denying it apparently convinces people that she didn't, but we've seen her trying to convince herself that she's not into him almost since the beginning. Pretty much as Sage with the "only fwb", but in a slighly different manner.

 

[felicemastronzo]

And Jill is 10 years younger. My point is she doesn't look to me like a mature personality. Bella might be the oldest of the LI, but not the more mature imo. She's fallen for the MC the same as the rest, but her cold façade and her constantly denying it apparently convinces people that she doesn't, but we've seen her trying to convince herself that she's not into him almost since the beginning. Pretty much as Sage with the "only fwb", but in a slighly different manner.

Jade represents the fantasy, the stereotype of the MILF. Cathe the cougar

Bella is closer to the older sister's porn/hentai stereotype.

the strong point of the 5 LIs that are clearly different from each other, but with many points of contact, in a realistic way. in the end the only unrealistic behavior is their attraction to MC, but we can't complain

 

[Darkdevil66]

I for example dislike Derek greatly.

 

[always86]

It could not be Arieth, sure. But how do you explain that Dani passed the crabs to so many DIKs? (Pun may or may not be intended ) Butit's true that Arieth looks shaven. Is there anything better than this?
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Well, I’ve (fortunately) never had crabs. But whenever people tell stories about them I think they can pass through households through laundry. As far as we know the DIKs have them but the alphas don’t even though most of them have also fucked Arieth.

It was also not made clear if Derek had them, though it was suggested he might.

I have a hard time believing that Bella has a mature personality. She doesn't know what she wants and says (and thinks) one thing and does another. Jill looks more mature in that regard. She know what she wants, what pace she wants and acts accordingly. Even Jade is more mature than her.

Bella is traumatised and or heart broken. For whatever reason she is attracted to the MC, I think this could be a maternal feeling (perhaps playing in to the dead kid theory). Think about the MC for a moment;

In shape
intelligent
kind
funny
flirty
needs her help
gets on with her best friend
big ol‘ D

For whatever reason he’s unlocked her repressed sexuality, perhaps just because it’s the first time she has let her guard down in recent times.

What do we know about her personality outside her relationship with MC. She’s 36 give or take. Has been married, possibly had a kid. She has a sense of humour (which I like alot) but it’s very deadpan seemingly because of her trauma. She cooks, she keeps in shape, she likes wine tasting for fun. She keeps her axe and Boots clean and sharp (lol). Her idea of a date night is sitting quietly in her study reading.

The ‘she doesn’t know what she wants‘ side Is all part of her trauma. She doesn’t want to ‘cheat’ on her husband, but she knows the relationship is over (either because she murdered him and chopped his body into iddy biddy pieces or because he left for other reasons). She is also probably torn about the age differences, And about MCs relationship with Jill. I actually think those issues are part of her maturity rather than evidence of a lack of it.

 

[der123fer]

Maybe i'm mixing things up, but i recall DPC saying that Bella is his favorite character to write, so if that's the case then your last statement is incorrect.

DPC said that those were Derek, Quinn, Bella and Jade, in no particular order. It was from a Q&A back in February

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Ya, I'll admit, if this game ends up like AL, and it's seeming like a pattern is emerging that every game he creates ends with emotional devastation, BaD would probably be the last game I play from DPC.

This likely will have some emotional devastation (already has for some), but it will hopefully come more in the form of relationship drama and character backstories than it will in a major character death.

Maybe it's a conspiracy to prevent us from reaching 4k posts.

Pages, not posts.

Just in a game where he has gone out of the way to give even minor characters a personality, Bella sticks out like a sore thumb. He has Jade and Cathy for the older teacher stuff and he obviously spent more time writing and designing them.

It's not that she doesn't have a personality, it's that she's not expressing it. There's something that's making Bella repress her true self and as such, we haven't yet seen what her personality is really like but we have had some glimpses of it.

Bella's an enigma right now and it's this mystique that makes her so appealing because people want to know what's beneath that hard exterior, what the real Bella is like, what has made her this way, and I think we're going to discover more of that in Season 2.

I for example dislike Derek greatly.

I like all of the main LIs. They all have their own charms. Maya is cute but makes bad choices, Josy out going, Jill is sweet, Sage is grumpy and mean and kind at the same time, Bella is moody but funny just Deadpan. The journey with her will presumably be drawing out her personality she has hidden behind the ice queen persona.

Me too. I like all the main LIs and a few side girls too, and if I could have them all I absolutely would.

It could not be Arieth, sure. But how do you explain that Dani passed the crabs to so many DIKs? (Pun may or may not be intended ) Butit's true that Arieth looks shaven. Is there anything better than this?
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Arieth has a small landing strip, which I guess is quite appropriate.

DPC said that those were Derek, Quinn, Bella and Jade, in no particular order. It was from a Q&A back in February

Easy to see why as they each fall in to very basic character tropes; the idiot best friend, the rebellious bad girl, and the horny cougars. The other main characters, specifically the LIs, have more complexity and depth to their characters, although I suspect we will see some more depth from Quinn in the upcoming episodes as we find out more about her.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Well, I’ve (fortunately) never had crabs. But whenever people tell stories about them I think they can pass through households through laundry. As far as we know the DIKs have them but the alphas don’t even though most of them have also fucked Arieth.

It was also not made clear if Derek had them, though it was suggested he might.

Have they?

I didn't know about the laundry thing, that's interesitng. I considered other alternatives to Arieth back in the day, but I couldn't come up with any.

Bella is traumatised and or heart broken. For whatever reason she is attracted to the MC, I think this could be a maternal feeling (perhaps playing in to the dead kid theory). Think about the MC for a moment;

In shape
intelligent
kind
funny
flirty
needs her help
gets on with her best friend
big ol‘ D

For whatever reason he’s unlocked her repressed sexuality, perhaps just because it’s the first time she has let her guard down in recent times.

What do we know about her personality outside her relationship with MC. She’s 36 give or take. Has been married, possibly had a kid. She has a sense of humour (which I like alot) but it’s very deadpan seemingly because of her trauma. She cooks, she keeps in shape, she likes wine tasting for fun. She keeps her and Boots clean and sharp (lol). Her idea of a date night is sitting quietly in her study reading.

The ‘she doesn’t know what she wants‘ side Is all part of her trauma. She doesn’t want to ‘cheat’ on her husband, but she knows the relationship is over (either because she murdered him and chopped his body into iddy biddy pieces or because he left for other reasons). She is also probably torn about the age differences, And about MCs relationship with Jill. I actually think those issues are part of her maturity rather than evidence of a lack of it.

I don't necessarity disagree with any of that. I also pointed out that Sage is not very mature either and yet she still has many good qualities, but maturity is not one of them. We don't have enough proof to know if she has a trauma or not, just speculation. The only thing we know is that she doesn't want to cheat on her husband as is unable to control herself. That we might empatice with her on why doesn't change the fact.

 

[JohnDelfino]

Edit-Either way i'm surprised that you picked Bella as the "mommy" and not Jade with her roleplay option.

Its not so much there being a 'mommy' in the game (real or roleplay) but she seems to follow what seems to be the standard character design process for low effort incest games, make older woman, increase boobs and butt to max, place in game and worry about personality later. She even has the yoga time fillers that are popular among those games. Thinking about it, as felicemastronzo said (though I am sure he disagrees with my overall opinion) the way she acts is more like the older sister archetype in porn games.

 

[Ennoch]

I have a hard time believing that Bella has a mature personality.
She doesn't know what she wants and says (and thinks) one thing and does another.

This two statement carries much weight and it would take a much longer discussion to debunk the issues they carry which i'm not willing to spend on it because i'm not your therapist, i think you aren't here to have any and this thread is not for that kind of conversation anyway. I'll just respect your views on human nature and behaviour and respectfully disagree with you entirelly.


Jill is very mature. On the side note since you mentioned her in your other post. Yes. Too mature actually. If i want to go down the mystery lane i'd be wary of Jill. Maybe there is nothing more to it, maybe she a very good person who matures marvelously but if i would have to pinpoint a less obvious "darkness-within" person that would be her. The way i see it she is supersweet and all buuut as if she has a shadow following her. No.. not the Defiler of Melons. But both how she talks about the MC and how those discussions with Bella are somehow dispelling the 'innocent' angel halo in my eyes.

So.. i'd say something is off with her. She would make a fantastic yandere. Hopefully she isn't one but she suits the role perfectly regardless.

 

[always86]

Have they?

I didn't know about the laundry thing, that's interesitng. I considered other alternatives to Arieth back in the day, but I couldn't come up with any.

I don't necessarity disagree with any of that. I also pointed out that Sage is not very mature either and yet she still has many good qualities, but maturity is not one of them. We don't have enough proof to know if she has a trauma or not, just speculation. The only thing we know is that she doesn't want to cheat on her husband as is unable to control herself. That we might empatice with her on why doesn't change the fact.

Well Dawes obviously, so has Anthony, She asks him about the new giant guy. I think there is one other it’s implied she fucked.

I think her internal monologue indicates some past even that she is still not over. That may just be her husband leaving/ cheating and it may be something more like a death or MIA. Which fits with the following, Army uniform on dummy, desire for husband to come back but knowing he won’t. it does fall down with the line ‘I’ve forgiven you already’ though that could have been anger for signing up for example.

 

[cryhwks]

The thing about Jill, she's like 21 or 22, she's a few years older than the MC, and she's grown up in a much more strict environment with bigger expectations from her parents. And apparently she had some bullying encounters herself. So it's not surprising she's more mature than some of the others at her age. But she's starting to lighten up more because of the MC.

I think Bella is very Mature lady, she's just confused because she wasn't expecting to fall for a 18 yo student. And she's dealing with whatever shitty situation her marriage is/was.

 

[cryhwks]

Of course their bodies aren't realistic. The MC just happens to have like a 10 inch dick and Jedi Mind Trick powers to seduce any woman he meets and the stamina of a 1000 men.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Its not so much there being a 'mommy' in the game (real or roleplay) but she seems to follow what seems to be the standard character design process for low effort incest games, make older woman, increase boobs and butt to max, place in game and worry about personality later. She even has the yoga time fillers that are popular among those games. Thinking about it, as felicemastronzo said (though I am sure he disagrees with my overall opinion) the way she acts is more like the older sister archetype in porn games.

I still think that Bella's behavior is the most difficult to judge, she seems a crazy nymphomaniac, but everything is "explained" with the question of the husband / locked room.
I hope the explanation that DPC has in mind is reasonable.

aesthetically I don't see such a unique match, for example Bella is very similar to MILFY CITY's older sister. the aesthetic models for mothers are very varied: they are often chubby / curvy (sisterly lust, man of the house ..)

Her proportions are a bit much but i would say the same about Jade's character design. Jade is 40-45? and yet she has the perfect body. Most of the characters are like this: Perky butts, slim waist, perfect boobs and big hips. All of them are perfect models, the same goes for males too. Game has its strong points but realism is not one of them.

like in movies or tv shows

I personally want to see beautiful girls in such a game, not just any girls ...

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

This two statement carries much weight and it would take a much longer discussion to debunk the issues they carry which i'm not willing to spend on it because i'm not your therapist, i think you aren't here to have any and this thread is not for that kind of conversation anyway. I'll just respect your views on human nature and behaviour and respectfully disagree with you entirelly.

It's true that it would be getting too serious, but I'm still wondering why you said what you said. You said two things " some just can't handle a mature personality " which I'm still wondering what you mean by "handle", but that's not the point. I just don't know what you see of mature in her except for her age. The second one is " Bella's precieved fault is that he just doesn't fall into the MC's arms from the get-go " which she does. Later on we know that she has to self-delude herself into thinking she doesn't, but she did fall into his arms from the get-go. Which entangles with the first point, she seems to be unable to control her feelings towards the MC. We lack information about why she acts the way she does, but we are able to empatice with her with what we know already. Still, I don't see her as mature and I'd like to know why you do.

I'd like to know what people see in her, really. I have to say I love tsunderes. They are fun to mess around with, you tease them, but you get some feedback, even though they might try to hide it. That's whats cute about them. With Bella you get no feedback at all. That makes me feel too pushy sometimes and I don't like it.

Jill is very mature. On the side note since you mentioned her in your other post. Yes. Too mature actually. If i want to go down the mystery lane i'd be wary of Jill. Maybe there is nothing more to it, maybe she a very good person who matures marvelously but if i would have to pinpoint a less obvious "darkness-within" person that would be her. The way i see it she is supersweet and all buuut as if she has a shadow following her. No.. not the Defiler of Melons. But both how she talks about the MC and how those discussions with Bella are somehow dispelling the 'innocent' angel halo in my eyes.

So.. i'd say something is off with her. She would make a fantastic yandere. Hopefully she isn't one but she suits the role perfectly regardless.

She is mature, but I think she is genuine. When she rejects the MC's advances in Bella's living room we get to read her though process and it is what we would think it is. She wants to have sex but not yet. We should wait until she feels jealous and see how she reacts (for real, not the conversation before the tennis match), but for now it looks out of character.