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JETracktor

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Who says he doesn't know his mom's surname? It hasn't been told to us because it's not interesting. We don't even know the mc's surname, does that mean he doesn't know that either?
I don't know exactly common rules about surname in US but in my country if mother give birth with no official husband her child holds her surname. Since MC's parents wasn't maried MC could bear his mother surname.
 
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I just began her route a couple days ago and really stucked at that songs scene. I don't know. Feels like i have to stop and give up her route apparently. I am really confused and think doesn't want to push myself to think hard about what song should i advice her.
Complimenting songs or contrasting songs, both are good ideas. It's just the mc's opinion. The choice is still Jill's, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
I don't know exactly common rules about surname in US but in my country if mother give birth with no official husband her child holds her surname. Since MC's parents wasn't maried MC could bear his mother surname.
Except the mom was already dead before his name was registered. I wonder what's typical in that situation...
 

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Well la di da, Mr. French man. I work full time and don't make as much per month as he does making that game. Must be nice to be able to scoff at 3 grand a month. I would kill to make that much making a game, which would not seem like work to me. Instead I slave away at hard physical labour to make less money than he does a month(in canadian no less, which is worth less than the american he's getting paid in).
Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
 

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Jill is absolutely not a shrimp, she is more some kind of massive woman, if she was not a Royce, i guess she could be a good MMA fighter.
With some training she could be a beast, a strong jaw to stand the punches, have you seen her tighs, she could crush your head with those, she is quite tall also.
Definitely not a little girly girl, more a deadly predator with a nice figure!
Absolutely. Jill is pretty much an Amazonian.

On the off chance DPC has her attend the DIK/HOT Halloween party he should absolutely have her go as a knockoff Wonder Woman.

In some scenes Jill seems so large she could register for the NBA Draft.
 

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Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
 

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Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
 
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Mate that VN has only managed to put out 3 updates over 2 years and pulls in less a month than I did with my first job out of college.

AOA Academy is less than a year old with more patrons and monthly income than SG.

Your favorite slow burn VN is trash, hardly makes enough to be profitable, and will likely be abandoned before its conclusion for the reasons stated.

Im sorry to inform you of this. Highly profitable slow burn VNs do not exist.
Well la di da, Mr. French man. I work full time and don't make as much per month as he does making that game. Must be nice to be able to scoff at 3 grand a month. I would kill to make that much making a game, which would not seem like work to me. Instead I slave away at hard physical labour to make less money than he does a month(in canadian no less, which is worth less than the american he's getting paid in).
Bruh why did you send me this? Cry me a river. I went into tens of thousands in debt for my degree and spent 1000s of hours living in the library programming till my eyes bled to put myself in the position im in

Sounds like a personal problem
Because being dismissive of someone making more money monthly than a significant portion of the population makes you an arrogant fucking douche. But clearly you're a bootstraps asshole so no real surprise.
You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
 

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3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
Lol exactly, even being generous and allowing that to be post-tax income its only 36K/yr (and recalling this was originally about Patreon income is is most definitely not post-tax which makes it even worse).

A $36000/yr job wouldnt get me out of bed in the morning
 

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You need a hug. As an American why would I care about the average income of people not in America? 3K/mo in pretty much any US city at this point is absolutely nothing, rent for a shoebox apartment would eat close to half of that immediately unless you decide to live in dilapidated high crime areas with questionable landlords.

You're looking for a pity party, im just telling you 3K/mo is not a lot of money at all.
Your minimum wage is significantly less than ours in most cases(it's 14 bucks an hour here). A large portion of your population makes less than 36k a year. You are an out of touch elitist douche.
 

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3K a month is about the median for US or Canadian personal income.

If you're earning less than that, full time, it's time to look for more options.

Maybe write a porn game on the side. :ROFLMAO:
Everyone would make more than the median income if they just worked harder. Hurr durr.
 
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That's true; honestly never gave it that much thought, but I was skeptical about the MC's mother's surname being somewhat of a big deal to the point where DPC decided to keep it under wraps until a crucial point in the game where the reveal of her surname results in a revelation of MC being the heir to some big family or something.

But now, thinking about it, it's definitely true that no surnames are really mentioned aside from Rusty's and Jill's, since, after all, their identities are closely tied to B&R, together with Mona, whose surname was only really mentioned because her name was on an official spreadsheet regarding scholarships. It's highly likely that surnames won't play in big part in the progression of the story in that case, as you said.

On the off chance that they somehow end up doing something though, I'd much rather think that there might be a chance MC's surname is one from a powerful and wealthy family from like a century ago, that seemed to have lost its legacy somewhere down the line. They've hidden riches across the state, and it's just that Neil never knew. If this were to come to light, I envision Bella, being the smart librarian she is, showing surprise and maybe even helping the MC with this whole fiasco. That'd be a long shot, but hey, still a possibility.

Otherwise, I might just be on board with your idea of the surname playing no significant role whatsoever until proven otherwise.
There are a lot of surnames mentioned. You just have to match them up.

Isabella Roberts (maiden name not known)
James Roberts
Jill Royce
Russel Burgmeister
Tybalt Burke
Jade Burke
Stephen Burke

What if Rox isn't Quinn's father's first name? :unsure:

Isabella went to a college named Smith & Readme (or something like that).:unsure:

Smith (Lynette) & Roberts (James)?:unsure:
 

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The first part of your comment I agree. Yeah that Jill was a Boss Bitch. :ROFLMAO: :cool:. and then who know what happened, but even without that flashback you kinda feel like she take a literal 180 shift in episode 6 , compared to how we know her before :unsure:

The second part however I don't agree. Jill does not have this radical change, later on , She looked "weird" right from the beginning, way before DPC has better equipment and started "experimenting" with diferent lighting, or make-up, lipstc, eye shadow etc.:ROFLMAO: .
It is just more noticeable with her, because She was weird looking always. She was always was this person,who can look extremely beautiful and then extremely weird. I post the weird ones first :p

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Okay, She impersonating Bella here, so...:ROFLMAO:
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But, Here I legit believed for a while she is a Vampire or a Succubus or something, and that will be her story twist:ROFLMAO:
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Take a thought with the pictures and the story line with. A jumbled time line of 1-3-2-4 years.
 
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JETracktor

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There are a lot of surnames mentioned. You just have to match them up.

Isabella Roberts (maiden name not known)
James Roberts
Jill Royce
Russel Burgmeister
Tybalt Burke
Jade Burke
Stephen Burke
Cathy?
Mona?
Also possibly Chad and Anthony (DPC used standard daz basketball kit for them but what if).

And don't you dare to forget KRJ :KEK:
 

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Chekhov's rifle: if an author puts a weapon at the stage, someone must shoot it at the stage at some point of the play. Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link? It wouldn't make any sense if, after de writer has created that expectation, it turns out that MC´s mother is just a random girl from a random wealthy family unrelated with B&R, and Jill's sister another different girl whose disappearance don't have any repercussion in the plot.

I think (can be wrong, obviously) that this part of the plot is going to be something like Studio Ghibli's "From up on poppy hill": at some point, Jill and the MC are going to start suspecting that they actually are blood relatives so their love (if the MC is into Jill's path) is impossible. If, at the end ,that's true or there is another plot twist, well see.

But again, this kind of stories about lost relatives and the boy from a humble family being actually the heir to the fortune of a notorious and wealthy family, or something like that (the kind of soap-opera-style plot twist that this writer loves), is almost imposible to make plausible in a modern world with internet. If the MC wants to know more about his grandparents, uncles and cousins, he just need his smartphone and WIFI. The movie of Studio Ghibli is set in the 60's.
I don't get it.

The writer has told us about heaps of things. There's so many unknown details, does the existence of unknown details as well as the existence of the mc's dead mom backstory have to all be linked?

Why is Jill's sister's story somehow inexplicably linked to the mc's dead mom? Because they are both dead? We now know they aren't one in the same person (a lot of us knew that from the start but there were plenty of stubborn people that would not accept it), so basically it's just unrelated information.

The backstories are relevant in their own context, but there's no obvious link to each other. It's definitely not "Chekhov's Gun". If that's how "Chekhov's Gun" was to be interpreted, it would mean every loose end must be all interrelated because the writer wrote it:
  • We've been told about Maya's dad - maybe he's Lynette's brother...
  • We randomly met Nora in a pub - maybe she's Lynette's sister...
  • We've been given vague information about Sage's parents - maybe Lynette's not dead and she's Sage's mom...
  • We've been told that Bella inherited her home from wealthy parents - maybe she's actually Lynette after faking her death and having a face lift...
  • We haven't blatantly seen Quinn's mom (I believe we have but it's debateable) - maybe Lynette was living a double life and she's Quinn's mom too...
  • Who's sending incriminating photos to the Jocks? - Maybe it's Lynette's ghost...
  • What's behind Bella's locked door? - Maybe it's something to do with Lynette...
  • Who was skulking outside the MC's room in episode 6? - Maybe Lynette isn't dead and she's stalking the mc...
  • Who trashed the DIKs mansion? - Maybe it was Lynette trying to get the mc's attention...
  • How did Lana die? - Maybe she and Lynette were friends Lana committed suicide when Lynette died giving birth to the mc...
  • Who is the Madame? - Maybe it's Lynette's mom fallen on hard times (since the Madame looks like an old hag)...
  • Jill's sister Lana was mentioned, the mc's mom Lynette was mentioned - maybe they are intertwined somehow...
All of the above must be true otherwise why did the writer write about them? No. Everything written in the story does not have to be interrelated. The backstory of one character is used to define that character. When we learn about Jill's dead sister we learn more about Jill.

"Why the writer tell us about the sister of Jill, and the mother of the MC and her diary, suggesting that could be some kind of link?"

The absolute misconception here is that DPC ever suggested that there could be some kind of link.

It's only people on this thread that continuously believe there was a link and propagate that theory until people think it is real. There's nothing in the story that suggests there's a link at all.

First some people were 100% convinced that Jill's dead sister was the mc's mom. Why? Because they both died young and they both came from wealthy families. Too bad people kept providing plenty of evidence to the contrary, but those "Aunt Jill" theorists would not let up.

Now we find out for a fact that they are two separate people, and instead of saying, "Fuck, we were definitely barking up the wrong tree with that theory", these crazy doomsday theorists just change the date of Judgement Day, rather than realise they are totally fucking wrong.

It's not impossible that Lynette was somehow known to Bella or Jill's sister, just like it's not impossible for a lot of other substantiated, currently not even remotely alluded to outcomes could be true, but it's not Chekhov's Gun, not even remotely. If you listen carefully you can hear Anton Chekhov turning in his grave right now at the blatant misuse of his theory.
 
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